Lucasfilm has closed a deal with Simon Kinberg to develop a trilogy of Star Wars films

[Jay 39,755]

https://deadline.com/2024/11/star-wars-trilogy-simon-kinberg-movies-1236169916/

 

I heard this will comprise episodes 10-12 of The Skywalker Saga that began with George Lucas’s 1977 first film that along with Steven Spielberg’s Jaws reshaped the global blockbuster game. Insiders disputed my intel that Kinberg will continue that storyline, saying this will instead begin a new saga, and sit alongside Star Wars percolating projects with James Mangold, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, Taika Waititi and Donald Glover. As usual, Lucasfilm and Disney are not commenting.

[The Train Station 8,870]

Can't wait!

[A24 4,603]

We need more Star Wars!

 

[John Dutton 7,502]

There haven't been enough of these.

[Doo_liss 6,632]

I heard they have already been secretly shot.

[crocodile 8,608]

When are these scheduled to be cancelled?

 

Karol

[Loert 2,740]

JW right now:

 

[Quintus 5,467]

Fuck off Star Wars.

[Edmilson 9,122]

I started reading the name of the thread and for a second I thought it was "Lucasfilm has closed a deal with La La Land..." 

 

For fuck's sake, Simon Kinberg? Aka the dude who ruined X-Men and wrote not one but two shitty Phoenix saga adaptations? Also, how come Disney haven't fired Taika Waititi yet?

 

Looks like Lucasfilm reunited the biggest team of morons they could to try to inject some new life in a dying franchise.

[John Dutton 7,502]

Why don't they just give us what we want after all these years and make a Star Trek Vs. Star Wars movie. There seems to be no path forward for a new Star Trek movie after they did those lame remakes and saved the good stuff for the small screen, and the diminishing returns of the Disney movies and Bomb Solo seem to have ended their theatrical movies. Might as well have Captain Kirk and Han Solo meeting each other while they're still alive. 

[Tallguy 4,567]

Looks like this guy has had more ups and downs than Martin Campbell!

 

Like Calvin Coolidge once said "If you see ten troubles Star Wars projects coming down the road, you can be sure that nine will run into the ditch before they reach you."

[Richard P 4,267]

9 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I started reading the name of the thread and for a second I thought it was "Lucasfilm has closed a deal with La La Land..." 

 

Nah, you'd tell. If a thread were posted stating that LFL had signed with LLL to expand SW and Indy, it would have five pages in the time it's been since Jay posted, and be the most read thread in JWFan's existence.

[NL197 468]

[Tallguy 4,567]

24 minutes ago, Richard P said:

 

Nah, you'd tell. If a thread were posted stating that LFL had signed with LLL to expand SW and Indy, it would have five pages in the time it's been since Jay posted, and be the most read thread in JWFan's existence.

 

Wait, I want to live in that moment just a little bit longer. Mmmmmmmmmmm. (I'm not ENTIRELY kidding.)

[Edmilson 9,122]

They managed to take two of the most disliked things in the internet (Disney SW and Simon Kinberg) and put it together. I mean, do they expect anyone to be excited by this? More Star Wars from the guy who took a dump on the X-Men?

 

33 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Looks like this guy has had more ups and downs than Martin Campbell!

 

He hasn't had highs as high as The Mask of Zorro and Casino Royale. 

 

36 minutes ago, John Dutton said:

Why don't they just give us what we want after all these years and make a Star Trek Vs. Star Wars movie. There seems to be no path forward for a new Star Trek movie after they did those lame remakes and saved the good stuff for the small screen, and the diminishing returns of the Disney movies and Bomb Solo seem to have ended their theatrical movies. Might as well have Captain Kirk and Han Solo meeting each other while they're still alive. 

Star Wars vs Star Trek: Dawn of Stars. Directed by Zack Snyder, with music by Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL. Coming to a theater near you in 2027.

[Tallguy 4,567]

13 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

He hasn't had highs as high as The Mask of Zorro and Casino Royale. 

 

The Martian? I guess he was just a producer on that. Oh well. It'll never happen anyway, so why fret?

[Groovygoth666 1,045]

Ah another Star Wars project, time to break out ol' faithful - 

 

[Chen G. 4,713]

For the record, I too doubt this will be billed as episodes 10-12. A couple of reasons:

 

Now, it's true Lucas spoke about twelve films for a while, but it hadn't caught the popular imagination like the "trilogy of trilogies" talk did. And since the raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy was "well, we're making good on something George promised for years" this would either follow the same logic, or not at all.

 

Also, at such distance the connection to the existing trilogies will become too tenuous. The sequel trilogy was made a time where they could actually call upon the services of the cast and crew of the classic trilogy and brand them around that. Not so here. You're not going to make a trilogy out of "look, its Rey and Poe again!"

[DarthDementous 1,250]

It would ostensibly have to be a new trilogy rather than a sequel sequel trilogy because almost no one from the ST wants to come back

[Jurassic Shark 13,360]

5 minutes ago, DarthDementous said:

sequel sequel trilogy

 

I have it on good authority this has already been filmed.

[Edmilson 9,122]

9 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

Also, at such distance the connection to the existing trilogies will become too tenuous.

And it also allows them to hire Lorne Balfe to do the scores and completely change the way Star Wars scores sound 

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

12 minutes ago, DarthDementous said:

It would ostensibly have to be a new trilogy rather than a sequel sequel trilogy because almost no one from the ST wants to come back

They got Harrison Ford to come back. The promise of a big payday will bring them all back. None of them are big enough stars to refuse.

 

Of course, when they do finally accept, they'll just say some "I really liked the story and how they developed my character" BS.

[Thor 8,504]

I don't really care what they do, as long as Oma Tres returns.

[Tallguy 4,567]

I think that's only slightly more likely than getting Carrie Fisher back.

[Sunshine Reger 3,609]

I wonder if it's related, but... according to one Disney insider, the composer on a "next big Star Wars project" will be none other than... Hildur Guðnadóttir
interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybW48rKBME&t=1698

[Edmilson 9,122]

45 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

I think that's only slightly more likely than getting Carrie Fisher back.

I honestly think it's very likely that Disney will use AI to reunite Han, Luke and Leia should these movies actually happen.

[Jay 39,755]

20 minutes ago, Sunshine Reger said:

I wonder if it's related, but... according to one Disney insider, the composer on a "next big Star Wars project" will be none other than... Hildur Guðnadóttir
interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybW48rKBME&t=1698

 

Is she scoring Skeleton Crew?  That's the only Star Wars live action project actually filmed right now besides season 2 of Andor, which I assume Britell is returning for, and the Mandalorian & Grogu movie, which I assume Göransson and/or Shirley are returning for

[Manakin Skywalker 5,364]

25 minutes ago, Sunshine Reger said:

I wonder if it's related, but... according to one Disney insider, the composer on a "next big Star Wars project" will be none other than... Hildur Guðnadóttir
interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybW48rKBME&t=1698

 

I typed up a very long rant before deciding to click on that link. 

 

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

Is she scoring Skeleton Crew?  That's the only Star Wars live action project actually filmed right now besides season 2 of Andor, which I assume Britell is returning for, and the Mandalorian & Grogu movie, which I assume Göransson and/or Shirley are returning for

 

Watch the video and you'll find out.

 

(Btw Mick Giacchino was announced for Skeleton Crew quite a while ago)

[enderdrag64 913]

26 minutes ago, Sunshine Reger said:

I wonder if it's related, but... according to one Disney insider, the composer on a "next big Star Wars project" will be none other than... Hildur Guðnadóttir
interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybW48rKBME&t=1698

JWFan needs a sigh of relief reaction 😮‍💨 

[Jay 39,755]

LOL!  Shows what I get for NOT clicking on the link!

 

And man, I had completely forgotten Mick was scoring Skeleton Crew

[crumbs 14,904]

Hold on, didn't Disney/LFL come out and state their regret about over-saturating the brand with too many movies, then too many Disney+ shows, and needed to take a step back?

 

Now there's 3 movies in various stages of pre and post production, and now a whole new trilogy starting development. Are they hedging their bets, figuring half these projects won't ever get off the ground?

[Jay 39,755]

The Mandalorian & Grogu movie is the only film actually in production - actually, production wrapped in October, its in post-production now.

Everything else is just in development and could never happen.

[Edmilson 9,122]

7 minutes ago, Jay said:

Everything else is just in development and hopefully will never happen

Fixed.

[Not Mr. Big 4,741]

Great news, I wouldn't be surprised if this releases next month

[Jurassic Shark 13,360]

When will Mattris be announced as the director of Episodes X-XII?

[Nick1Ø66 6,061]

 

[Datameister 2,303]

Am I missing something or is this all still just rumor?

[Nick1Ø66 6,061]

21 hours ago, Chen G. said:

For the record, I too doubt this will be billed as episodes 10-12. A couple of reasons:

 

Now, it's true Lucas spoke about twelve films for a while, but it hadn't caught the popular imagination like the "trilogy of trilogies" talk did. And since the raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy was "well, we're making good on something George promised for years" this would either follow the same logic, or not at all.

 

Also, at such distance the connection to the existing trilogies will become too tenuous. The sequel trilogy was made a time where they could actually call upon the services of the cast and crew of the classic trilogy and brand them around that. Not so here. You're not going to make a trilogy out of "look, its Rey and Poe again!"

 

Well reasoned and rational argument.  And if Disney was motivated by this kind of rationale, you'd be 100% right. But because they're not, I think you're 100% wrong.

 

21 hours ago, Chen G. said:

And since the raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy was "well, we're making good on something George promised for years" this would either follow the same logic, or not at all.

 

The raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy was "well, we just paid four billion for this, let's make some money" this would either follow the same logic, or not at all. Seriously, do you really think Disney cares about some things Lucas said in some interviews once upon a time, and that's the reason they did a sequel trilogy? Really?

 

You're thinking of this from a story and character perspective. Disney doesn't care about that. All they care about is how they can market the film. And given that they haven't had a Star Wars film, in, what, five years, and probably seven by the time the next "trilogy" is released (if it happens at all) and the fact that Disney definitely needs a big win for Star Wars on the screen again, and, given how much these films are going to cost, I think there's about 0% chance we won't get both the scroll and episode titles, starting with X. Not necessarily saying it's this trilogy, or the Rey trilogy (though it may be either) but X is coming. 

 

I'm also somewhat convinced they're announcing this new trilogy because the Rey trilogy is falling apart.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

I'm also somewhat convinced they're announcing this new trilogy because the Rey trilogy is falling apart.

 

Yeah, and they announce these things to make it seem that 'Star Wars' is still alive and kicking, and not in trouble—and because they need to constantly have projects in the pipeline to appease the investors, who want to see this IP that cost a fortune lay golden eggs again.

 

But it's mostly smoke and mirrors, as the past has shown.

[DarthDementous 1,250]

6 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

They got Harrison Ford to come back. The promise of a big payday will bring them all back. None of them are big enough stars to refuse.

 

Of course, when they do finally accept, they'll just say some "I really liked the story and how they developed my character" BS.

 

Harrison Ford didn't publicly burn bridges with Disney like John Boyega did, and you mistake Star Wars' reputation for what it was pre-Sequel Trilogy and the allure of the first Star Wars film in 10 years compared to the situation now

 

Especially off the heels of Episode 9 being widely received as the worst film in the franchise

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

1 hour ago, DarthDementous said:

 

Harrison Ford didn't publicly burn bridges with Disney like John Boyega did, and you mistake Star Wars' reputation for what it was pre-Sequel Trilogy and the allure of the first Star Wars film in 10 years compared to the situation now

 

Especially off the heels of Episode 9 being widely received as the worst film in the franchise

I was just talking hypothetically, as I'm miserably aware of the current state of Star Wars.

 

As I've said elsewhere, the only world in which it would make financial sense to bring back the ST cast would be one in which its kiddie audience has grown up, and looks back on it fondly and wants to see a continuation.

 

But that won't be for another ten years. And by that time, I'm sure fences will be mended and bridges rebuilt with John Boyega... Because at the end of the day, it's a business.

 

Whatever helps put butts in seats.

[Chen G. 4,713]

7 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

The raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy was "well, we just paid four billion for this, let's make some money" this would either follow the same logic, or not at all. Seriously, do you really think Disney cares about some things Lucas said in some interviews once upon a time, and that's the reason they did a sequel trilogy? Really?

 

I'll rephrase: the stated raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy...

 

I've seen a lot of interviews of Kathleen Kennedy to the effect of "George always wanted nine films" and of course at the time of the sale to Disney he said so himself. Whenever I argue with fans that those films were inherently redundant and anti-climactic, that's the argument thrown back at me most of the time: "Well, but George Lucas always said there'd be nine!"

 

OBVIOUSLY that wasn't the actual reason, no more than it was the actual reason when George Lucas ever made or motioned to make new Star Wars films.

[Cindylover1969 53]

17 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I started reading the name of the thread and for a second I thought it was "Lucasfilm has closed a deal with La La Land..." 

 

For fuck's sake, Simon Kinberg? Aka the dude who ruined X-Men and wrote not one but two shitty Phoenix saga adaptations? Also, how come Disney haven't fired Taika Waititi yet?

 

Looks like Lucasfilm reunited the biggest team of morons they could to try to inject some new life in a dying franchise.

Kinberg also did the amazingly overrated Mr. & Mrs. Smith and xXx: State Of The Union.

[Edmilson 9,122]

42 minutes ago, Cindylover1969 said:

Kinberg also did the amazingly overrated Mr. & Mrs. Smith and xXx: State Of The Union.

I liked the action scenes in Mr and Mrs. Smith, but that's more the director's job than the screenwriter's. xXx 2 is crap. 

 

One movie that he wrote that I liked was the first Sherlock Holmes, even though he had the help of two other screenwriters (and who knows who else).

[Davis 3,135]

21 hours ago, crocodile said:

When are these scheduled to be cancelled?

 

Karol

They already are.

[The Train Station 8,870]

So exciting

[Nick1Ø66 6,061]

7 hours ago, Chen G. said:

I'll rephrase: the stated raison d'etre of the sequel trilogy...

 

Right. But the point is, nothing anyone has said or done, whether it's Lucas or Kennedy, nor any story or character consideration, will stop LucasFilm from calling this (or another) "trilogy", Episodes X-XII. Which they will. 

[bespinGPT 8,853]

Simon Kinberg? Miam, fresh meat for banthas!

 

[Chen G. 4,713]

19 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Right. But the point is, nothing anyone has said or done, whether it's Lucas or Kennedy, nor any story or character consideration, will stop LucasFilm from calling this (or another) "trilogy", Episodes X-XII. Which they will. 

 

You think they have reason to believe a sequel-sequel trilogy would do better business than just a trilogy?

[Nick1Ø66 6,061]

19 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

 

You think they have reason to believe a sequel-sequel trilogy would do better business than just a trilogy?

Absolutely. Calling something "Episode X", and having the scroll, and selling the film as the continuation of a story people love, is a LOT more appealing, and marketable, than if it was just more random Star Wars "content". 

 

It doesn't matter if the story connection is tenuous, or even really whether they bring back legacy actors (though this would certainly help). Put Episode X in the title, the scroll, throw in the droids, Chewy, and whatever else they can...people will come. Or at least be more interested than they'd otherwise be. 

 

Again, I think you're looking at this as "does it make sense for the story & characters"? Of course it doesn't. Nor did Episodes VII-IX for that matter, as you've said yourself.  The story was done with ROTJ. Disney & LucasFilm don't care about any of that. They'll spend at least half again whatever the production budget on these films marketing them. Just putting "Episode X" in the title is millions in free marketing alone.