BrotherSound 2,477 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Some details on the source: Quote For this presentation, Sony Pictures transferred the Genex digital back-up 8-channel multiple optical disk (MOD) cartridges, which preserved Shawn Murphy’s SDDS mixes. Performance edits were recreated, and the two-channel stereo mix-down process precisely followed what was done for the original soundtrack album. Careful attention was paid to the shortcomings that Murphy had originally noted in 2000,specifically to how SDDS’s two additional front channels could compromise audio clarity and breadth of the stereo mix. The entire presentation was monitored in this regard so that the end result would preserve all of the subtlety and dynamic power of the original recording. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,272 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Ordered! Just noticed the last day of recording sessions took place on my wedding day! May 20th, 2000 Brando, Chris ChrusherComix, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,477 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 There’s also some alternate covers: Dr. Rick and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,272 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just spotted on the bottom of the back cover image it shows 2024 and not 2025, wonder if this was originally planned for last year and if so how long was it delayed? KittBash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,779 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Ordered! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quppa 217 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 Available at Screen Archives Entertainment for pre-order ('late January') as well. Ordered along with Out of Africa and the John Barry Polydor Years set (the latter two are out-of-stock on Intrada's website). Once again the value of the Australian peso is making this an expensive hobby Steve H, That_Bloke, Oceadge and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,779 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 yeah i ordered from SAE That_Bloke and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 714 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Ordered. I was going to grab Out of Africa while I was at it, but it's out of stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,797 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This part is quite interesting: Quote Williams wrote his score for The Patriot over the course of about two months, a length of time he described as “fairly generous.” He then recorded the score over eight sessions between May 6 and May 20, 2000. For some reason I thought the recording happened earlier in the year than it actually did. The movie was released on June 30, 2000 and Williams usually records his stuff, like, 4 or 5 months before the release. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,393 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 The Barry Polydor set at Intrada will be back in Stock 1 - 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 162 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Chris ChrusherComix said: ...Buried in an on/off Lake Effect affect snowstorm instead ! My youngest however keeps blasting 'Wicked' and screaming 'Defying Gravity'... Buried in a snowstorm is a sign that Mother Nature wants you to stay behind that computer and wait for ordering to go live, such is the force of the music of JW. As for your youngest looping "Defying Gravity"... you have my sympathy. It could be worse: at least it's not Baby Shark. PS: Lake Effect affect. I like what you did there. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,926 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, BrotherSound said: Some details on the source: Quote …8-channel multiple optical disk (MOD) cartridges… As I just posted over at FSM, I believe this should read “magneto optical disk”, not “multiple”. I used them heavily back in the mid/late 90s for law enforcement-proprietary audio recording devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trope 1,069 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 After listening to the samples, I have caved and purchased this... It's been so long since I picked up a new JW release, especially one that I've never heard before (or seen the film either). There's nothing quite like sitting down for 2 hours and letting his music transport me to another world. I'm now very excited to hear this in full. I've always maintained that 1999-2005 is my favourite John Williams period, and the only two scores I haven't listened to from that era are this and Angela's Ashes. I'm keen to remedy this. Edmilson, Yavar Moradi, BrotherSound and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,797 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 46 minutes ago, Trope said: I've always maintained that 1999-2005 is my favourite John Williams period, and the only two scores I haven't listened to from that era are this and Angela's Ashes. I'm keen to remedy this. Mine as well! Though I extend the first year to be 1997 so it can include The Lost World and Amistad. Yavar Moradi and Trope 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,246 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: Mine as well! Though I extend the first year to be 1997 so it can include The Lost World and Amistad. Don't forget Seven Years in Tibet! Edmilson, Amer, That_Bloke and 4 others 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,393 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Don't forget Seven Years in Tibet! Ooh..I love that one!! Sylvan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,340 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Trope said: the only... score. I haven't listened to from that era ...is... Angela's Ashes. I'm keen to remedy this. It's actually my favorite Williams score. Ordered! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, BrotherSound said: There’s also some alternate covers: What the hell that non-yellow one is so much better BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,407 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Meaning they actually made something worse when trying to do more with it. Then again, an Instagram filter would've probably achieved what they wanted without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 aaaaaah 3 disc price So let's see. In a recent Presto sale I bought modern recordings of Shostakovich's 15 symphonies (plus some other pieces included). Not all of the 6 releases were on sale, not all of the ones on sale were discounted very significantly. That was around 60€ for 15 hours of music. Now I'll buy Patriot and Dark Crystal for 130€ for... 4 hours of actual music. Fuck me. bollemanneke, Davis, That_Bloke and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,407 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 How the fuck has Robin Hood been the one exception in keeping a 3CD price for 4CDs? Hell, it's even cheaper than the usual 3CD set! That_Bloke and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Samples sound great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,204 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just like the OST. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,441 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 ORDERED! [70 EUR] Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,304 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This CD set ended up costing me $119. Davis, That_Bloke, Chris ChrusherComix and 6 others 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 162 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Holko said: aaaaaah 3 disc price So let's see. In a recent Presto sale I bought modern recordings of Shostakovich's 15 symphonies (plus some other pieces included). That was around 60€ for 15 hours of music. Now I'll buy Patriot and Dark Crystal for 130€ for... 4 hours of actual music. Fuck me. I guess with Shostakovich it's a case of: 1. dead composer whose music has probably (?) come into the public domain, so no royalties, 2. the record company wants to clear their back catalogue inventory, 3. less items to license, or less parties who need to be paid a licence e.g. maybe the Patriot could only be released if "our Mel" was on the cover artwork and he was paid, 4. paying an art designer to make the cover / booklet, as opposed to using old covers for the Shostakovich CDs, 5. the Shosta CDs probably didn't need to be remastered, or other sonic work done. ... among other things. But yes, I feel your angst and dismay. As for the last two words in your post: well, only if you ask nicely. 😋 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 853 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Ordered at MBR. Got a message that the set is 'on backorder'. Does this mean the batch they had was already sold out when I ordered or does it mean they're treating any orders as pre-orders at this moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 9,081 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: This CD set ended up costing me $119. True, or a joke? That's my entire food budget for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, That_Bloke said: 2. the record company wants to clear their back catalogue inventory, Oh yeah they were digital downloads, that helped. 3 minutes ago, Sandor said: does it mean they're treating any order as pre-orders at this moment Yes, and they'll continue to do so until they actually have stock on site in France in 2 weeks+. No worries. Sandor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,304 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, Thor said: True, or a joke? That's my entire food budget for a month. My PayPal won't let me take screenshots, but yep, $119.52. In US dollars, that's $39.99 for the item, plus $31.00 for shipping. $119.52 AUD = $70.99 USD 1 AUD = 0.594 USD That_Bloke, ThePenitentMan1, Trope and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,204 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, That_Bloke said: As for the last two words in your post: well, only if you ask nicely. 😋 Do it! That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,517 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: In US dollars, that's $39.99 for the item, plus $31.00 for shipping. That's about £25 to ship three CDs. These shipping costs are out of control for non-US buyers. In this case I'm pretty happy with my selections from the OST, and I've never seen the film. The samples I've played have been pleasant but nothing overwhelmingly distinctive, really. Unfortunately I thought The North Star was a statement of a different theme, and I don't generally have any conscious unreleased highlights. Probably a pass for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,393 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I ordered it along with the John Barry Polydor set and used my $26 loyalty points in the whole order. That Polydor set is expensive. so I'm glad I got it at nearly half the price. Shipping is another $31. Coming down to $105 in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,821 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, Holko said: aaaaaah 3 disc price So let's see. In a recent Presto sale I bought modern recordings of Shostakovich's 15 symphonies (plus some other pieces included). Not all of the 6 releases were on sale, not all of the ones on sale were discounted very significantly. That was around 60€ for 15 hours of music. Now I'll buy Patriot and Dark Crystal for 130€ for... 4 hours of actual music. Fuck me. Which is why I'm passing. These prices are getting ridiculous. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Haha perfect timing with the parallel discussion of LA unions overpricing themselves and losing work instead of lowering the price but possibly getting more work bollemanneke and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,718 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 hours ago, crumbs said: 7 hours ago, Edmilson said: Mine as well! Though I extend the first year to be 1997 so it can include The Lost World and Amistad. Don't forget Seven Years in Tibet! Don't forget Rosewood. 4 hours ago, Holko said: So let's see. In a recent Presto sale I bought modern recordings of Shostakovich's 15 symphonies (plus some other pieces included). Not all of the 6 releases were on sale, not all of the ones on sale were discounted very significantly. That was around 60€ for 15 hours of music. That's a lot. 15+ years back, I paid not much more than €20 for the Barshai Shostakovich box set. On CDs. 1 hour ago, That_Bloke said: 1. dead composer whose music has probably (?) come into the public domain, so no royalties, He died in 1975, so his works shouldn't be public domain yet. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,727 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 €76.95. Can’t afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 737 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Total Extras and Source Music Time: 44:11 Can't believe I still see timings like this and can't help thinking 'ah, it'll fit nicely on one side of a C90 cassette'. Must be 20 years since I actually did that. Mark Jay and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,779 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 yeah it's expensive with shipping it cost me 83$ Canadian ,but hey it's a JW grail at this point. I draw the line at some re-issues and skipped the stand alone JP and TLW c.d's and keep my JP set. Richard P, That_Bloke, Chris ChrusherComix and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,246 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 My purchases have essentially been reduced to JW expansions only. This hobby became prohibitively expensive for international buyers around COVID, and the horrendous exchange rate isn't helping. Considering almost everything on disc 3 is redundant (the same mixes and material already available on discs 1-2), I'm a little disappointed by the hefty $40 USD price tag. With titles like Superman and Hook it wasn't unreasonable, considering they had more than enough unique material to justify a third disc. Chris ChrusherComix, Davis, Brando and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 162 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Holko said: Oh yeah they were digital downloads, that helped. I didn't know they were downloads. Because you were comparing the Shosta to the Patriot I thought both of them were the same medium. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 726 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Couldn't justify the import costs from Intrada directly, so I've gone for Music Box. £45.79 inc delivery (according to the current exchange rate, anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,204 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, That_Bloke said: I didn't know they were downloads. Because you were comparing the Shosta to the Patriot I thought both of them were the same medium. Yeah, weird comparison. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 162 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: My PayPal won't let me take screenshots, but yep, $119.52. In US dollars, that's $39.99 for the item, plus $31.00 for shipping. $119.52 AUD = $70.99 USD 1 AUD = 0.594 USD From which site are you ordering? I've found that when it comes to shipping that SAE is the cheapest to get it to Australia Oceadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,246 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It helps if you have a bank account that refunds international transaction fees too @That_Bloke. From memory I've ordered with my ING account in the past because their exchange rate isn't a ripoff (like Paypal) and they refund the international transaction fee. Trope and That_Bloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 162 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: He died in 1975, so his works shouldn't be public domain yet. Thank you for that data. So, another 20 years to go for those of us whose countries are tied to the "70 year" rule. Nevertheless, I've found in dealing with rights holders that royalty rates decrease the longer the composer has been dead. So I'm making an educated guess that royalties on Shosta's music will be cheaper than a living composer such as Williams. 17 minutes ago, crumbs said: My collecting has effectively been cut down to JW expansions only. The whole score expansion hobby is just prohibitively expensive for me now, especially with the horrendous exchange rate (AUD>USD). We are aligned. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quppa 217 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: My PayPal won't let me take screenshots, but yep, $119.52. In US dollars, that's $39.99 for the item, plus $31.00 for shipping. $119.52 AUD = $70.99 USD 1 AUD = 0.594 USD It's not a huge difference, but Screen Archives Entertainment charges 'only' US$19 for shipping to Australia (and I paid US$34 for 3 releases combined), and I definitely value having a fee-free card for international purchases (AUD/USD rate was 0.617 this morning). Those things combined would bring it down to US$58.95 = AU$95.47. Still a lot, but the US dollar is just very strong right now. That_Bloke and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,304 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It's a patriotic dollar. Oceadge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,727 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, Holko said: 130€ That’s 54.000 HUF with a 1€ = 416 HUF rate. Incredible amount for two CD sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,054 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Nooo why did you do that, it's way easier to accept when I only see it in EUR Davis and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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