The Patriot (Intrada) 3CD Set

[filmmusic 2,453]

I can't afford it right now, I get paid on Friday.

I don't think it will sell out by then, right? 

(it's not a limited edition)

 

edit: I see at MBR it's €65.45 with shipping included.

I think, they have lowered the shipping costs, right?

[crumbs 15,246]

I also noticed that Intrada now allows you to order out of stock items.

 

That's a positive change, wish LLL could implement the same system.

[Jay 41,256]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

Considering almost everything on disc 3 is redundant (the same mixes and material already available on discs 1-2)

 

On 18/01/2025 at 1:27 PM, John Takis said:

"The Patriot" and "The Patriot Reprise" on the album both use the same alternate take compared to the versions on Disc 2. "The Family Farm" on Disc 3 is an alternate that is exclusive to the album presentation.

 

[Holko 11,054]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

almost

 

[Jay 41,256]

Oh, I missed that word lol.  Not enough coffee yet.  My apologies!

[Davis 3,728]

49 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

edit: I see at MBR it's €65.45 with shipping included.

It’s €76.95 including shipping (€21). €65.95 with DHL Global Mail.

[filmmusic 2,453]

10 minutes ago, Davis said:

It’s €76.95 including shipping (€21). €65.95 with DHL Global Mail.

Well, of course anyone would pick the cheapest option.

Why would you choose the more expensive one? To get the cd sooner?

[Davis 3,728]

I’m a Williams music-obsessed stupid idiot. I ordered it. F.ck. 

[Holko 11,054]

1 minute ago, filmmusic said:

Well, of course anyone would pick the cheapest option.

Why would you choose the more expensive one? To get the cd sooner?

If you go over some price limit you can only pick the more expensive one. Which was still "only" 17€ last time I ordered from them. Ugh.

[Davis 3,728]

Now this is interesting. This is my PayPal receipt of the MBR purchase. The math doesn’t seem to work.
 

Is €46.63 the price for what MBR got the set from LLL? And they’re selling it for €55.95? So they are making €9 on every set? Are we supposed to know this?

[Holko 11,054]

The base price is the one before France's 20% VAT is added, that step is left out somehow

[Smaug The Iron 614]

Ordered mine on Music Box together with The Pink Panther, cost €105,90.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,304]

Scoreflation.

[Davis 3,728]

This set should’ve been released last Christmas. Or this. Feels like one of the year’s biggest releases was already blown in January.

[Luke Skywalker 2,068]

It seems MBR has lowered their prices a little bit. Intermezzo media would be higher (its not there yet but dark crystal costs some more € than at mbr)

[Nemesis 268]

Ordered it right away for $70 but was able to redeem 12 loyalty points.

[crocodile 8,859]

Ordered as well as soon as I could. Quite an exciting beginning of the year for film music collectors.

 

 

Karol

[Luke Skywalker 2,068]

Im going to wait for the inevitable great release in 15 days (about the time it should be arriving to the european stores)

 

been there, done that

[Jay 41,256]

Does anybody have any commentary on the samples, or is this going to be all shipping talk, all the time until the first person gets their copy?

[Holko 11,054]

Well, I can tell I'm going to love it. Some of the writing is definitely in the AI/HP1 vein, also heard it in the Legacy podcast sample.

[Smaug The Iron 614]

I can't listen to the samples. Every time I try it just don't want to play the file. And it is on every Intrada release.

[Jay 41,256]

if you copy the URL of each sample to your clipboard, then paste it into your browser but change the .m3u to .mp3, it should work

[Smaug The Iron 614]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

if you copy the URL of each sample to your clipboard, then paste it into your browser but change the .m3u to .mp3, it should work

Thanks, it work

[thx99 1,926]

8 minutes ago, Smaug The Iron said:

I can't listen to the samples. Every time I try it just don't want to play the file. And it is on every Intrada release.

 

"The Family Farm (The Patriot Main Title) "

 

"The North Star"

 

"To Charleston"

 

"The Defeat At Charleston"

 

"The First Ambush"

 

"Martin Leaves The Family"

 

"The Wedding"

 

"The Parish Church Aflame (Film Version)"

 

"Gabriel's Last Fight"

 

"Mortally Wounded"

 

"Preparing For Battle (Film Version)"

 

[BB-8 4,441]

"The North Star" could be one of the new highlights.

The sound of the ethnic flute in "The Wedding" reminded me of the 1997 finale of ROTJ.

 

9 minutes ago, thx99 said:

 

"The Family Farm (The Patriot Main Title) "

 

"The North Star"

 

"To Charleston"

 

"The Defeat At Charleston"

 

"The First Ambush"

 

"Martin Leaves The Family"

 

"The Wedding"

 

"The Parish Church Aflame (Film Version)"

 

"Gabriel's Last Fight"

 

"Mortally Wounded"

 

"Preparing For Battle (Film Version)"

 

Clicked on all tracks simultaneously and ended up with Zimmeresque vibes.

[JohnnyD 1,453]

I usually listen to samples. However, in this instance, I'm going to wait until I receive my copy, as I want to just dive in and be immersed and surprised. The preview on the Legacy of John Williams was enough for me to look forward to it.

[filmmusic 2,453]

I won't listen to samples either.

I want to listen straight to the cds when they come here (in 3-4 weeks I presume, since I'll order from MBR). 

[Davis 3,728]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

is this going to be all shipping talk, all the time

To those of us who don’t have much money to spend, shipping cost does matter a lot. 

[Jay 41,256]

Absolutely, I was just surprised to see so little discussion of the samples is all.

[Richard P 4,517]

Intrada does something weird with their samples where they embed each one in a playlist file which gets downloaded, but Winamp doesn't seems to do anything with it on my PC.

 

The North Star and The Wedding are pleasant - I'd certainly add them to a custom album. There's not a lot else I'm finding that's truly exciting me, but then I find the OST too long as it is.

[Trope 1,069]

2 hours ago, Holko said:

Well, I can tell I'm going to love it. Some of the writing is definitely in the AI/HP1 vein, also heard it in the Legacy podcast sample.

This is what convinced me to grab this. As soon as I heard hints of A.I. (one of my absolute favourites), I was hooked.

[Davis 3,728]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Absolutely, I was just surprised to see so little discussion of the samples is all.

Not one day has passed since it was released, there is plenty of time to discuss the samples and the score. 

[Steffromuk 563]

48 minutes ago, Richard P said:

Intrada does something weird with their samples where they embed each one in a playlist file which gets downloaded, but Winamp doesn't seems to do anything with it on my PC.

 

The North Star and The Wedding are pleasant - I'd certainly add them to a custom album. There's not a lot else I'm finding that's truly exciting me, but then I find the OST too long as it is.

I advise to install VLC media player. it's completely free and can read absolutely everything.
That's how I play the samples from Intrada.

I actually never heard the score nor watched the movie before, and probably won't watch it. But the samples really sold it for me. I can't wait to get my copy! It's some great Williams material.

[Dr. Rick 1,272]

Samples sound great, was surprised there wasn't any samples from the alternates or source material though.

[Richard P 4,517]

I use VLC as my main video player, but the format on a website like Intrada's shouldn't be using a format that needs it.

[Davis 3,728]

1 minute ago, Steffromuk said:

and probably won't watch it

Why not? It’s a great film.

[Holko 11,054]

It's watchable enough.

[Steffromuk 563]

2 minutes ago, Davis said:

Why not? It’s a great film.

I have problem with some American war movies that look too much like nationalistic propaganda, glorifying and romanticizing the life of war heroes. I don't want to get too political so I won't elaborate but everything about this movie always gave me that impression. And Emerich is (despite being German) kind of the yes man for dumb American blockbusters glorifying America in a very cringy way.
I gonne get a lot of hate for this but that's how I feel.
 

[thx99 1,926]

18 minutes ago, Richard P said:

I use VLC as my main video player, but the format on a website like Intrada's shouldn't be using a format that needs it.

 

The M3U files are simply playlist files (text files with links to the MP3s), and they open without issue in Windows Media Player and Media Player (the "newer" version of Windows Media Player). The issue that @Smaug The Iron has is more likely related to the browser they're trying to play them in and less about the M3U file itself.

[Davis 3,728]

16 minutes ago, Steffromuk said:

have problem with some American war movies that look too much like nationalistic propaganda, glorifying and romanticizing the life of war heroes.

Fair enough. It’s still great entertainment, though, nicely shot and acted, and JW’s score alone is worth the price of admission. There are many war movies that are way worse than The Patriot. 

Gibson’s character hates war and fighting, he opposes going to war against the Brits and forbids his sons to join the military. Only a tragic turn of events makes him change his mind and even then he hates everything about it. 

[Holko 11,054]

Rewatched it this weekend and my main problem with it was the same as last time, that it just rushes through formulaic beats with little air left to breathe or hang on moments. Ann's big speech to the parishoners and their turn feels completely unearned because all we hear from them before it are 2 sentences of "eh I dunno". The miltia is getting assembled? A single short montage and they're all doing great with no hardships. The false low point of nobody coming back to the swamp after the week's leave to tend to their families? They barely even finish the sentence about it and the boats are already coming. Ann and Gabriel get married - as soon as she gets home with her parents, Tavington is already there to herd them into the church and burn them. Benjamin's true low point after Gabriel's death and the supposed fakeout of him not joining back for the big battle? Again pretty much minimal time.

[Jay 41,256]

Maybe the extended cut fixes some of these issues?

[Davis 3,728]

Let’s watch out for spoilers for those who haven’t seen it yet. 

[Holko 11,054]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Maybe the extended cut fixes some of these issues?

Nope, that's what I watched, it doesn't touch any of these examples.

1 hour ago, Davis said:

Let’s watch out for spoilers for those who haven’t seen it yet. 

It's a 25 year old movie. The tracklist has just as many or even more spoilers.

[enderdrag64 1,148]

The complaint I always heard about it was that 

Spoiler

the film treats the Brits like Nazis, the church burning scene is literally based on an SS massacre of French villagers in 1944. It has no place in a movie about the American War of Independence, and it makes the Brits out to be much more evil than they were in real life

 

[Jay 41,256]

We don't have to avoid spoilers in threads dedicated to talking about scores.

[Davis 3,728]

Another note on the price: It’s $39.99 at Intrada’s site, it’s €38. And €55.95 at MBR. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

We don't have to avoid spoilers in threads dedicated to talking about scores.

I was just thinking about those who haven’t yet seen the film. 

7 minutes ago, Holko said:

It's a 25 year old movie. The tracklist as just as many or even more spoilers.

 

[Miguel Andrade 1,438]

Buying directly from Intrada will cost me around €90, including postage and import taxes.

Ordering from MusicBox will be the around 76€.

Ordering from Intrada, for me, would only be cost effective if no taxes were to be applied. And if that was the case, the price from MusicBox would probably be lower too.

[JohnnyD 1,453]

My copy has shipped! Hopefully it arrives this weekend.

[thx99 1,926]

19 hours ago, thx99 said:

As I just posted over at FSM, I believe this should read “magneto optical disk”, not “multiple”. I used them heavily back in the mid/late 90s for law enforcement-proprietary audio recording devices.