Jerry Goldsmith's THE CHAIRMAN (1969) - 2025 Intrada Kickstarter

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

37 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

Yes, but then it'd feel like a hole on my shelf. I still have half a mind to pick up the General Electric Theater CD even though I already have the digital Kickstarter files.

 

Oh, the hole-on-my-shelf issue totally makes sense. Since you're paying $18 shipping for THE CHAIRMAN anyway, you should shoot Jeff at Intrada a quick email and see if you can purchase the GE Theater CD and have it included in the same international shipment for little or no additional shipping charge. I'll bet you that Jeff would do it. The CD edition has fantastic packaging and is a great 79 minute listening program all the way through. I really love how Joe Sikoryak color-coded each of the eight scores within the booklet, for my notes.

 

Yavar

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,856]

I remember some of the first reactions to Intrada's TBFB release in 2008 were hostile for whatever reason. There was of course KM who complained "but what about TOD?!", and a long-gone member, Miss Padme, who was irrationally annoyed by any Goldsmith release because she just plain disliked his music.

[Andy 5,976]

Assignment understood and completed. 

[Stark 699]

Not a big fan of Goldsmith's Asian style as we discussed the other day... but $20 for a Goldsmith "expansion"... plus those bonus tracks... darn you guys you might have my money after all!

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,856]

His Asian music was awesome.

[fommes 159]

As with all of the Intrada kickstarters over the past few years, this one just doesn't have great appeal to people outside of the US (on a budget) anymore, I feel, due to the shipping and customs issues that Marian mentioned.

I might consider if there would be free international shipping (to counterbalance the customs and additional postal charges), if the 'thank you' price wasn't that steep, or with any other interesting perks that are reasonable.

I'll buy the CD if this project makes it, and I hope it does because it's a great score, and I'd really like to hear new recordings of those unreleased cues too.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

2 hours ago, fommes said:

As with all of the Intrada kickstarters over the past few years, this one just doesn't have great appeal to people outside of the US (on a budget) anymore, I feel, due to the shipping and customs issues that Marian mentioned.

 

But they provide a $20 hi res download option (which I'm fairly certain comes with a PDF of the liner notes) which avoids all of those issues! Higher than standard CD quality audio, same content. Why wouldn't that option work for people outside of the U.S.? I'm not sure what else Intrada is supposed to do, either with their Kickstarters or even their regular retail store. It's not like they have any control over shipping and customs fees.

 

2 hours ago, Stark said:

Not a big fan of Goldsmith's Asian style as we discussed the other day... but $20 for a Goldsmith "expansion"... plus those bonus tracks... darn you guys you might have my money after all!

 

Very happy if you're onboard.  Yeah, I've known about Intrada wanting to do a stretch goal on this for the Rambo: First Blood Part II End Credits for a couple years now... but the other three cues Roger picked for the stretch goal were a complete surprise and have me over the moon! That Not Without My Daughter film version is the best thing Goldsmith composed for the film, that unreleased Lilies of the Field cue is lovely and affecting, and of the ~7 minutes of unreleased Under Fire music, "Alex's Death" is obviously the highest priority to get on album.

 

Anyhow the campaign is going like gangbusters, well over 41% now despite Intrada's goal being considerably higher than any of their previous campaigns.

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Day 2 (48 hour) total: $33,569 thanks to 384 backers. 46% funded.

OOP CD add-on update: Deep Rising, Congo, Explorers, Night Crossing, and Masada 2CD are now all SOLD OUT.

Only ONE copy left of Capricorn One and Rent-A-Cop!
Only two copies left of In Harm's Way
Only three copies left of Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend
24 copies left of The Boys from Brazil 2CD
45 copies left of Stagecoach album recording/The Heroes of Telemark
52 copies left of One Little Indian remastered

Yavar

[Amer 2,524]

Shesh! I just realised I have DEEP RISING which I had just gotten around 10 years ago and never got around to even open it. Still sealed and forgotten.

 

Reason..My son was about to be born.

 

So maybe tonight..

 

 

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Figured it's just about time to bump this thread with an update...

Still less than halfway through, the campaign currently stands at $40,830 thanks to 502 backers. 56% funded.

OOP CD add-on update: Capricorn One, In Harm's Way, Rent-A-Cop, Deep Rising, Congo, Explorers, Night Crossing, and Masada 2CD are now all SOLD OUT.

Only ONE copy left of Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend
21 copies left of The Boys from Brazil 2CD
40 copies left of Stagecoach album recording/The Heroes of Telemark
46 copies left of One Little Indian (remastered)

 

If you want that last sealed copy of Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend (a good chunk of the score is basically Rambo action!) then I wouldn't delay in pledging $20 for the campaign and selecting that as an add-on:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/new-recording-of-jerry-goldsmiths-score-to-the-chairman

Yavar

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

10 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

If you want that last sealed copy of Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend (a good chunk of the score is basically Rambo action!) then I wouldn't delay in pledging $20 for the campaign and selecting that as an add-on:

 

Absolute top tier Goldsmith action score, that one.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

10 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

Absolute top tier Goldsmith action score, that one.

 

To be fair there's a good amount of lighter music contained within the score as well. I like it too, but the Rambo action is certainly what more people gravitate to, in it.

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

 

 

Two exciting new conversations!

 

$41,230 from 508 backers now. Going to pass the Herrmann Kickstarter backer total very soon, putting it in second place behind Abbott & Costello with over half the campaign left to go!

 

Yavar

[1977 1,814]

I really hope the stretch goals are met, those will be fantastic to have (along with a complete Chairman of course)!

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

20 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

$41,230 from 508 backers now. Going to pass the Herrmann Kickstarter backer total very soon, putting it in second place behind Abbott & Costello with over half the campaign left to go!

 

 

Turns out I was (barely) right with this prediction, and the campaign got its 512th backer (the Herrmann twofer ended at 511) several hours before the halfway point, which was 40 minutes ago. $41,891 is the current total, 57.4% funded.

Yavar

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

Not quite 60% now, with 11 days to go. I'm getting worried, and not only (but even more) about the stretch goals.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Third week is usually the slowest. Multiple previous (less ambitious) Intrada Kickstarters actually didn’t cross 50% until the last 7-10 days. But use your worry and channel it into getting the word out!  

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Check out this wonderful unexpected conversation Joe Sikoryak had with Mary Ann Fake, Doug's widow (who provided her initials to the famous Intrada MAF series)!

 

 

I loved Joe's first two videos but this may be my favorite of the three even though it's less project-specific. Just a really important and wonderful conversation about Doug.

The two-thirds mark of the campaign was passed a couple hours ago, with $44,408 raised from 536 backers! Just under 10 days remaining now, to raise an additional $28,592 (a little over a third of the total) for the main campaign.

Add-on update: that last copy of Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend is now also gone, joining Capricorn One, Rent-A-Cop, Deep Rising, Congo, Explorers, Night Crossing, and Masada 2CD as SOLD OUT.

So the remaining add-ons are those which started off a box or two (30 or 60 copies). Here's the remaining quantity for those three titles; I predict that The Boys from Brazil 2CD will be gone by the end of this campaign (it probably can't be reissued in the foreseeable future due to being WB, so it makes sense) but I'm not sure about the other two:
16 (out of original 30) copies left of The Boys from Brazil 2CD
36 (out of original 60) copies left of Stagecoach album recording/The Heroes of Telemark
43 (out of original 60) copies left of One Little Indian remastered

 

If you want one of those three titles, make sure to select as an add-on to whatever tier you choose: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/new-recording-of-jerry-goldsmiths-score-to-the-chairman

Yavar

[Ollie 1,286]

Is this one gonna make it? 8 days left and roughly $39,000 to go. 

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

1 hour ago, Ollie said:

Is this one gonna make it? 8 days left and roughly $39,000 to go. 

 

How do you figure? It's $27,641 left to go (the additional $10,000 stretch goal can be met after the 30 days deadline, with late backers as long as Intrada allows it again as they did last time). If the previous campaigns are any indicator, the final 4-5 days are going to have a lot more backers finally jump in.

 

Yavar

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

[Ollie 1,286]

1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

How do you figure? It's $27,641 left to go (the additional $10,000 stretch goal can be met after the 30 days deadline, with late backers as long as Intrada allows it again as they did last time). If the previous campaigns are any indicator, the final 4-5 days are going to have a lot more backers finally jump in.

 

Yavar

 

oh yeah , sorry. Forgot the stretch goal can go beyond 

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

25 minutes ago, Ollie said:

oh yeah , sorry. Forgot the stretch goal can go beyond 

 

I didn't know that they're handling it this way (or used to, at least). Makes me more optimistic.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

31 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I didn't know that they're handling it this way (or used to, at least). Makes me more optimistic.

 

To be fair, the only previous time they had a late backer option was for Abbott & Costello... but that was their most recent campaign so I'd expect them to do similarly here. It didn't end up making the difference last time because they surprisingly met the stretch goal even before the 30 days... but even so they got 2-3 dozen more late backers after the regular backers were charged, and one of those late backers ended up being their only $10,000 tier one! So if I were Intrada I'd do the same thing with The Chairman.

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Tomorrow morning we will hit the final week of this campaign, with seven days remaining. It currently stands at 62.3% funded, with $45,459 from 550 backers:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/new-recording-of-jerry-goldsmiths-score-to-the-chairman

I can understand some folks starting to get worried, with $27,541 (or 37.7% of the funds) still needed in order to record The Chairman.

But a bit of comparison for perspective: At almost this exact point (just over a week remaining) of Intrada's previous KS campaign for Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, that campaign stood at only 55% funded, $31,361 from 528 backers — and that ended up breaking all records by the end, becoming their most successful campaign to date!

It took two more days for them to finally hit a similar 63% funding level (barely more than this, %-wise, and it was only $35,702 in terms of dollars because it had a much lower goal).

Not only did that Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein campaign ultimately make up the remaining 37% needed, but they even smashed the additional $8,000 stretch goal to add A&C Meet the Keystone Kops, *before* the 30 days had passed (and then with a few dozen late backers including one person going in for $10,000, widened the lead over goal even more).

So folks, keep sharing this around and encouraging your music-loving friends to support the campaign. But I think there's still good cause for optimism, here.

Yavar

[ThePenitentMan1 1,298]

I pledged $20 for a digital download awhile back, and raised it to $60 just now.

 

If this project makes it through to the end, I'm hoping that The Secret Of NIMH (either C&C or even just the missing cues) might be considered for a future Goldsmith recording project.  (I'm a little ashamed to admit that this has been my primary motivation for supporting Intrada's past Goldsmith Kickstarters)

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

It's a good question, @ThePenitentMan1... when a more modern score is lost in complete form, does the whole score really need to be re-recorded, or just the missing highlights?

 

Intrada seems open to considering the latter, as the stretch goal on this current campaign for The Chairman includes recording the key unreleased action cue from Under Fire, "Alex's Death" (a substantial chunk of the 7 total missing minutes from that score; I kinda wish they'd just record the other missing cues too since it is only 4-5 minutes worth and then we could arrange our own complete album of the score). They are also recording the superior lost film version (probably recorded in a quick pick-up session and not available with the other surviving elements of the score) of "The Flag" from Not Without My Daughter, as well as the unused orchestral End Credits from Rambo: First Blood Part II (which technically survived on tape, but only on a poor-sounding audio cassette).

 

So if they are considering this kind of thing, maybe there's hope for the missing 9-10 minutes of The Secret of NIMH being included on some kind of future Goldsmith campaign, as a stretch goal? Honestly the whole score doesn't need to be re-recorded because the existing Intrada album sounds really good. But maybe in terms of having consistent sound, it would have to all be recorded anyway?

 

Anyhow, thanks for upping your pledge!

 

Yavar

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

It would surely be more consistent to re-record the whole thing. But if anyone decides to instead do a full re-recording of, say, Elmer Bernstein's The Hallelujah Trail and add the Goldsmith NIMH cues as a bonus, I'd be the last to object.

[ThePenitentMan1 1,298]

5 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

But maybe in terms of having consistent sound, it would have to all be recorded anyway?

 

Anyhow, thanks for upping your pledge!

 

Consistent sound and clean openings and endings of cues!  But re-recording just the missing cues wouldn't be anything to turn my nose up at, not at all.

 

And you're welcome!

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Uh…folks? In the 15 hours since we hit the one-week mark this morning, the campaign has added over $3,000!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/new-recording-of-jerry-goldsmiths-score-to-the-chairman

Before that it was adding $1,000 maybe ever 2-3 days for a while. I think there might be some kind of Kickstarter algorithm that kicks in for campaigns with a week left or something. The velocity is suddenly increasing and if it’s anything like previous campaigns we are going to be fine.

Over $49,000 and over 600 backers now.

Yavar

[ThePenitentMan1 1,298]

32 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Over $49,000 and over 600 backers now.

 

[Jfallon 49]

Come on we need to reach that stretch goal! 

[Andy 5,976]

I’d like to see them emphasize the stretch goals more. People don’t read, and those perks are really enticing. 

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Roger emphasized them all in his original video, and there also in the written pitch. Since the main goal hasn’t even been passed yet where should they be emphasized?

 

Slowed down a bit on Sunday but still pretty solid day… 650th backer could put this across $54,000.

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Ok, it’s getting down to only three days left and we at The Goldsmith Odyssey wanted to ensure this important recording happens. So Jens and I worked together on a script and he recorded and edited this in the past couple hours:

https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/episodes/13885832-new-recording-of-the-chairman-kickstarter-only-three-days-remain
 

Please give it a listen and share far and wide to get the word out about this!

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

At exactly the three day (72 hours) mark now, $57,125 from 675 backers. 78.25% funded.

$15,875 to raise in the last three days seems completely doable, IMO. Multiple past campaigns have raised more than that amount in the last three days.

 

Back the campaign here for only $20 for the base tier (hi res audio download w/ PDF notes, or CD edition with free US shipping), a substantial savings off of the eventual retail price!

 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/new-recording-of-jerry-goldsmiths-score-to-the-chairman

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Whoa, in the past two hours it's jumped up 3.5k! Also if anyone's been holding out picking up the long OOP definitive 2CD Boys from Brazil... it's down to only 8 copies out of the original 30, now. Better get on it because I suspect those 8 copies won't last long over the next 2-3 days...

 

Yavar

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

I've seen comments on Facebook by people who have recently backed it "even though it doesn't look like it's going to make it". After all these years, do people still not understand Kickstarter? Under no consideration of any kind is that a reason not to back it.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I've seen comments on Facebook by people who have recently backed it "even though it doesn't look like it's going to make it". After all these years, do people still not understand Kickstarter? Under no consideration of any kind is that a reason not to back it.

 

Plus they haven't been paying attention to how almost all previous Intrada Kickstaters have gone. Literally all of them with one exception* came down to the last few days, and then got a final flurry of interest with tons of $$$ and backers! At the three day mark it switches to a 72 hour countdown and that always seems to spur people more.

 

In any case, in the past hour this campaign got a $10,000 backer (one of the ones after it passed 700 backers) and is about to cross $70,000! I wouldn't be surprised if it passes goal with over two days left, and I'm not the least bit worried about the stretch goal now. "Alex's Death" (Under Fire) and Rambo End Credits, here we come!!!

 

*Black Patch/The Man hit its very modest $38,000 campaign goal halfway through, with over two weeks remaining... and then slowed to a crawl because I wasn't able to talk Doug Fake into adding a third score as stretch goal, to keep the momentum going. Everyone at that point decided to just wait for the cheaper retail release (Intrada didn't start offering a price break at the base tier until Abbott & Costello and The Chairman).

 

Yavar

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

$772 over goal and towards the stretch goal now, and we’ve got 8 more hours before the second to last day even starts…

 

Yavar

[Jfallon 49]

Come on stretch goal!

[Edmilson 10,474]

 

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

Not so fast @Edmilson! We’ve still got to add another 8.5k for the great stretch goal cues!

 

Yavar

[Meredith McKay 7,859]

12 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Not so fast @Edmilson! We’ve still got to add another 8.5k for the great stretch goal cues!

 

Yavar

"Too many endings man!" ~ Jack Nicholson

[Edmilson 10,474]

13 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Not so fast @Edmilson! We’ve still got to add another 8.5k for the great stretch goal cues!

 

Oh boy. With all due respect to The Chairman, which I'm sure it's a fine score, but I'm actually looking forward more to the Under Fire cue. If it works right it could pave the way for more re-recordings from that score. A complete and chronological UF is my biggest Goldsmith grail and since re-recording the whole thing apparently is the only way this can happen so...

 

[Tom Guernsey 3,252]

43 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Not so fast @Edmilson! We’ve still got to add another 8.5k for the great stretch goal cues!

 

Yavar

Fingers crossed... my understanding is that a Kickstarter is only successful if it reaches its target* but the stretch goals can kinda just run on a bit and the originator can decide how much of the stretch goals they want to do or what to do with any surplus. Any idea how much flexibility Intrada might have to fund the rest if they were still a couple of $k short?

 

* This always feels like it could be quite frustrating if you missed your target by a trivial amount but I do recall someone explaining why this was the case.

[Marian Schedenig 10,139]

5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

* This always feels like it could be quite frustrating if you missed your target by a trivial amount but I do recall someone explaining why this was the case.

 

I assume the basic idea is this: The campaign runner defines the scope and feature set of the product and calculates how much money they will need to deliver that (plus campaign costs, plus costs for rewards). That's the crowdfunding amount (or rather: should be), i.e. anything less than that would mean they can't deliver the promised product. The guarantee to the crowd is that if the financial goal isn't met, i.e. the product can't be produced, they are risk-free because they won't be charged.

[Yavar Moradi 3,585]

7 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Oh boy. With all due respect to The Chairman, which I'm sure it's a fine score, but I'm actually looking forward more to the Under Fire cue. If it works right it could pave the way for more re-recordings from that score. A complete and chronological UF is my biggest Goldsmith grail and since re-recording the whole thing apparently is the only way this can happen so...

 

I get it! The Chairman is an excellent score but "Alex's Death" from Under Fire is one of Goldsmith's most exciting action cues out of his entire career, and it's just bizarre it was left off the album. That said, there's only about 7 unreleased minutes of music from that score, including that cue. I'm not sure whether a complete re-recording would be worth it since the existing album for the score already sounds so good. I kinda wish Intrada would just tackle the remaining 4-5 missing minutes, if they're able.... but maybe that's too much to fit in one session along with the other bonus cues they want to do. Still, none of the other unreleased music from this score is as amazing and important to get as "Alex's Death".

 

6 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Fingers crossed... my understanding is the stretch goals can kinda just run on a bit and the originator can decide how much of the stretch goals they want to do or what to do with any surplus. Any idea how much flexibility Intrada might have to fund the rest if they were still a couple of $k short?

 

At some point in between Intrada's campaigns for the Bernard Herrmann twofer and Abbott & Costello twofer, Kickstarter enabled a "late backer" option. The Herrmann twofer barely reached its $10,000 stretch goal to include The Man Who Knew Too Much, before its 30 day deadline (it only went over by a mere $704, IIRC). It didn't end up being an issue with Abbott & Costello as it passed the stretch goal with room to spare at the 30 day mark, but Intrada did enable Kickstarter's new late backer option, and it turned out they got a few dozen more backers after the main campaign closed (and original backers were charged), including their single biggest backer for that campaign at $10,000! So it's a nice feature, and seemingly would allow the optional stretch goal on this present campaign for The Chairman to be reached *after* the 30 day mark of the main campaign ending.

 

Right now we are $6,819 shy of the stretch goal being met, with 39 hours still to go. I think it could still happen even before the original 30 days are out.

 

Only 5 copies of the OOP 2CD Boys from Brazil left as add-on rewards, now.

 

Yavar

[Steve H 38]

5 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

I get it! The Chairman is an excellent score but "Alex's Death" from Under Fire is one of Goldsmith's most exciting action cues out of his entire career, and it's just bizarre it was left off the album. That said, there's only about 7 unreleased minutes of music from that score, including that cue. I'm not sure whether a complete re-recording would be worth it since the existing album for the score already sounds so good. I kinda wish Intrada would just tackle the remaining 4-5 missing minutes, if they're able.... but maybe that's too much to fit in one session along with the other bonus cues they want to do. Still, none of the other unreleased music from this score is as amazing and important to get as "Alex's Death".

Yavar

 

Alex's Death is very First Blood, Rambo, like. with the Bajo Fuego guitar moments weaved in. Maybe Goldsmith left it of the album for that reason. But it is a great cue and a great pairing for the Rambo II End Titles.

[Jay 42,389]

THIS IS IT!  You made it happen... THANK YOU AGAIN! The Royal Scottish National Orchestra is booked (August 11-12, 2025). Anna John Stromberg and Leigh Phillips are reviewing the parts. Bill Stromberg is warming up the baton. For a few more dollars, we'll add our 4-part stretch goal to the recording. The hall is already reserved, so let's make it extra worthwhile!

 

https://www.facebook.com/intradacds/posts/pfbid0hnPqvz225t5M7H9RR2fPmGeZ9kQysNqs5WTxYPRvUEq7tXm4Nfi4vXE6UZESSKKml