Popular Post Chewy 2,771 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 https://lalalandrecords.com/gladiator-25th-anniversary-remastered-expanded-limited-edition-3-cd-set/ Quote LLLCD 1670 Music by Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard Limited edition of 3500 Units RETAIL PRICE: $39.98 La-La Land Records, Paramount Pictures and Geffen Records proudly present GLADIATOR: 25th ANNIVERSARY LIMITED EDITION (3-CD SET), a deluxe remastered and expanded re-issue of renowned composer Hans Zimmer (THELMA & LOUISE, BLACK HAWK DOWN) and acclaimed vocalist/composer Lisa Gerrard’s original motion picture score to the 2000 Best Picture GLADIATOR, starring Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix and Connie Nielsen, and directed by Ridley Scott. This definitive limited edition release marks the 25th Anniversary of the landmark film and its iconic, Oscar-Nominated score. Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard’s original score is the beating heart of GLADIATOR. Strikingly modern, yet organically evocative of the film’s Ancient Rome setting, the score expertly weaves a mesmerizing tapestry of thundering action and intimate character drama, resulting in an exhilarating and thematic musical odyssey. This special, 3-disc presentation fully illustrates the masterwork’s brilliance, sounding better than ever and expanded with never-before-released music. Produced by Stéphane Humez and edited and mastered by Maxime Marion from studio vault materials and composer archives, under supervision of Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard, this deluxe re-issue showcases the Score Presentation, as written for the film by the composers, across Disc One and Disc Two. Disc Three features The GLADIATOR Sketchbook, showcasing exclusive, never before released sketches from Hans Zimmer’s archives, as well as Additional Music tracks, including alternate cues and more! There is no spoken dialogue in this presentation. Limited to 3500 units, the packaging features rousing art design by Dan Goldwasser and includes a 32 page booklet that contains exclusive liner notes by writer Kaya Savas, featuring new in-depth interviews with composers Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard. “Are we not entertained!!!” TRACK LISTING: DISC I SCORE PRESENTATION 1. Opening – Fields 1:40 2. The Wheat (Film Version)* 1:00 3. The Battle (Film Version) 10:36 4. Commodus – After The War 2:46 5. Marcus & Lucilla 2:06 6. Tell Me About Your Home** 1:07 7. Lucilla & Maximus 2:20 8. Patricide (Film Version) 4:00 9. Emperor Is Dead** 2:21 10. A Soldier's Death – Home 4:03 11. The Bodies** 1:27 12. To Marrakesh++ 4:07 13. I Salute You 7:23 14. Rome 2:20 15. The Greatness Of Rome 1:33 16. Six Man Fight 2:47 17. Win The Crowd 2:38 18. Reunion** 1:15 19. Slaves To Rome (Film Version) 2:07 20. He Sleeps So Well*** 1:00 21. Afraid Of Dark 1:11 22. Walk To Colosseum 0:54 23. Maximus & Lucius Meet** 1:36 DISC TIME 62:19 DISC II SCORE PRESENTATION CONTINUED 1. Barbarian Horde (Film Version)+++ 9:17 2. I Think I'll Meet Him 4:32 3. I'm Vexed 1:21 4. I Knew A Man Once 1:00 5. Tiger Fight – Waiting For Judgment 2:18 6. You Simply Won't Die 2:57 7. Figurines (Film Version)* 1:10 8. They Love Maximus 1:30 9. We Will Lie Still°° 2:03 10. Wish Of A Dying Man° 4:25 11. Secrets (Film Version)** 2:59 12. The Kiss 2:07 13. Busy Bee*** 3:32 14. The Trap – Escape Fails 4:12 15. Am I Not Merciful? (Film Version) 6:37 16. Flashback** 0:46 17. Elysium (Film Version)** 3:00 18. Honor Him 1:20 19. Now We Are Free*** 4:15 DISC TIME 59:24 DISC III THE GLADIATOR SKETCHBOOK 1. Duduk Of The North 5:35 2. Gladiator Waltz (Demo) 8:28 3. Rome Is The Light*** 2:44 4. After The War 4:42 5. Opening Soldiers (feat. Lisbeth Scott) 5:21 6. Sister Theme 3:31 7. Roman & Spanish++ 6:32 8. After The War (Guitar Variation) 3:55 ADDITIONAL MUSIC 9. The Wheat (Alternate)* 1:18 10. The Battle 10:03 11. The Bodies (Alternate)+ 1:27 12. To Marrakesh (Alternate Opening Version 1)++ 1:33 13. To Marrakesh (Alternate Opening Version 2) 1:36 14. Marrakesh Marketplace† 0:44 15. Win The Crowd (Alternate)** 1:30 16. Afraid Of Dark (Alternate)*** 0:49 17. Figurines+ 1:03 18. Figurines (Alternate) 1:10 19. Busy Bee (Alternate)** 3:46 20. The Trap – Escape Fails (Alternate) 3:20 21. Now We Are Free (Alternate Version 1)*** 5:06 22. Now We Are Free (Alternate Version 2)*** 4:01 DISC TIME 78:17 TOTAL COLLECTION TIME 200:00 *Written by Lisa Gerrard **Written by Lisa Gerrard & Klaus Badelt ***Written by Hans Zimmer, Lisa Gerrard & Klaus Badelt +Written by Hans Zimmer & Lisa Gerrard ++Written by Hans Zimmer & Djivan Gasparyan +++Written by Hans Zimmer & Nick Glennie-Smith °Written by Hans Zimmer & Klaus Badelt °°Written by Klaus Badelt †Written by Jeff Rona This is a CD format release Ravi Krishna, Edmilson, Tom Guernsey and 16 others 4 14 1
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 Busy week ! lol CatastrophicJones, Ravi Krishna, Yavar Moradi and 3 others 2 4
Popular Post Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 #1 grail down.... again! OMG. Thank you LLL and Stephane! Alan, A. A. Ron and Stéphane Humez 1 2
Popular Post WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 Wonderful news! The soundtrack that kicked off my obsession with film scores. I will for sure be picking this one up! I love that they had to specifically call out that "there's no dialogue in the bonus tracks". crumbs, sdimidenko, CatastrophicJones and 3 others 2 4
Bilbo 4,150 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Switched to my iPad and got it working. So excited for this. Definitely one of my big remaining grails. shipping Late April means it should come out around mid May and I’ll get it in early June!
Popular Post WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 I realize now there's quite a few blockbuster Zimmer scores from the early 2000s (my favorite era of his) that are in need of official expansions! Pirates, Sherlocks, Dark Knight Trilogy, King Arthur, Inception, Last Samurai. Heck even hits from the 90s like Crimson Tide, Muppet Treasure Island, Prince of Egypt. Seems like there's a change in the wind. Better start saving! CatastrophicJones, Imperivm and tomsmoviemadness 1 2
bollemanneke 4,183 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Jesus, they've been releasing titles that I know since November!
Popular Post mstrox 7,288 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 I ordered this. Really gonna miss that dialog though. Jay, OneBuckFilms, WampaRat and 11 others 14
Bilbo 4,150 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, WampaRat said: I realize now there's quite a few blockbuster Zimmer scores from the early 2000s (my favorite era of his) that are in need of official expansions! Pirates, Sherlocks, Dark Knight Trilogy, King Arthur, Inception, Last Samurai. Heck even hits from the 90s like Crimson Tide, Muppet Treasure Island, Prince of Egypt. Seems like there's a change in the wind. Better start saving! Depending on where he recorded a lot of those might not be eligible for expansion. enderdrag64 1
WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 minute ago, Bilbo said: Depending on where he recorded a lot of those might not be eligible for expansion. sigh... I know
HunterTech 1,570 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 The Gladiator Sketchbook? I'm in I do wonder how long this has been in the planning, given it was only just a few years ago that we learned a few of these tracks even existed. I am especially curious about the rather extended opening, given I'm used to that whole sequence being around 11:42 in length.
crocodile 9,417 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Hopefully, this means we can get some other Zimmer goodness. Da Vinci Code and Hannibal are in dire need of expansion. Both celebrate their anniversaries next year - 20th and 25th, respectively. Karol CatastrophicJones and A. A. Ron 2
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 The film didn't directly get me into scores (I was just about into instrumental music when I saw the film) but at some point soon after I'd have gotten the OST and that changed things. This is a very personally significant milestone, because there are three scores that effectively got me into film music: Harry Potter 1, Fellowship, and this. All now expanded, at last. This also means that my #1 grail is.. well. I don't really have one! The Terminal is my next wish, but basically everything else that could emerge from any of the labels is just cool stuff, rather than grail status. And yes, I'd love to know how long this has been in the works for - years if some comments elsewhere are to be believed. It looks like we got three Sketchbook/demo tracks on the MMF, so we'll never have heard the rest before. I'm assuming by length that track 10 in additional music is the OST's The Battle with the Lisa ending, as the film has a different 'lament' ending section. WampaRat and Cindylover1969 2
Bilbo 4,150 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, Richard P said: This didn't directly get me into scores (I was just about into instrumental music when I saw the film) but at some point soon after I'd have gotten the OST and everything changed. This is a very personally significant milestone, because there are three scores that effectively got me into film music: Harry Potter 1, Fellowship, and this. All now expanded, at last. This also means that my #1 grail is.. well. I don't really have one! The Terminal is my next wish, but basically everything else that could emerge from any of the labels is just cool stuff, rather than grail status. And yes, I'd love to know how long this has been in the works for - years if some comments elsewhere are to be believed. I think maybe the Pirates trilogy would be the next big one for me. Maybe Prince of Egypt. But all my big ones are being released. Star Wars prequels aside WampaRat and Edmilson 2
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 1 minute ago, Richard P said: And yes, I'd love to know how long this has been in the works for - years if some comments elsewhere are to be believed. Not so long actually. I mean I got the composers on board almost 2 years ago but we knew from the start that with Gladiator 2 it couldn't happen, even though Paramount was always in. Once Gladiator 2 was out, we actually started working. That gives you the time it took, which isn't amazingly long. Ravi Krishna, OneBuckFilms, StarFox and 12 others 9 4 2
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 3 minutes ago, Bilbo said: I think maybe the Pirates trilogy would be the next big one for me. Maybe Prince of Egypt. But all my big ones are being released. Star Wars prequels aside SW/Indy is a whole other thing, plus those aren't grails for me. More like 'oh, neat!' when/if they emerge. There's a ton of stuff I'd buy when it comes out - just that none of it is grail status - just really-cool-to-have things. I've waited for this one for years.
Popular Post tomsmoviemadness 4,526 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: I think maybe the Pirates trilogy would be the next big one for me. Maybe Prince of Egypt. But all my big ones are being released. Star Wars prequels aside How awesome would it be if the first 3 Pirates score were officially expanded. Those are the score that made me fall in love with film music. So that would be absolutely incredible! CatastrophicJones, Yavar Moradi and WampaRat 3
Popular Post WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 I made some custom covers a bit ago taken from some great fan art I found. Here they be if anyone is interested. Holko, greenturnedblue, crumbs and 1 other 4
Popular Post Jay 44,356 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 WampaRat, Yavar Moradi, OneBuckFilms and 3 others 3 3
Tom Guernsey 3,472 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Despite my recent carping about the recent concert film, this was easily one of the standouts of that concert and a great score. Yeah, we might have wanted Jerry to be brought on to resurrect the sound of Alex North but it was never gonna happen. Very excited to hear this expanded... although interesting that it doesn't include the OST presentation (let the bitching commence* ;-) but I'm good with that. I will keep the OST as it's a superbly produced album that I'm sure will remain a fine companion to the expanded release, much like The Thin Red Line does. Plus anyone who wants it can buy it for 8 pence in almost any good second hand CD shop as it is one of those scores that was so ubiquitous scores that there are plenty of spares lurking. I hope this means I can ditch the More Music From album... I have only listened to it a couple of times but, like Back to Titanic, it has some additional music which is nice to have but also... dialogue. Looking at the individual track credits, I thought it might say "contains at least 19% Hans Zimmer" (For the avoidance of doubt, I'm joking ;-) *seriously though... don't.
WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 minute ago, Jay said: The music used in first 26 seconds of that trailer, was the sample I would play ad nauseam for my parents as a youngster! I was obsessed with it. So great to finally have this!
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 All that excitement and forgot to order! Man, shipping isn't cheap. I like that we've got a variant cover too - I can keep the original for the OST. 9 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Despite my recent carping about the recent concert film, this was easily one of the standouts of that concert and a great score. Yeah, we might have wanted Jerry to be brought on to resurrect the sound of Alex North but it was never gonna happen. Very excited to hear this expanded... although interesting that it doesn't include the OST presentation (let the bitching commence* ;-) but I'm good with that. I will keep the OST as it's a superbly produced album that I'm sure will remain a fine companion to the expanded release, much like The Thin Red Line does. Plus anyone who wants it can buy it for 8 pence in almost any good second hand CD shop as it is one of those scores that was so ubiquitous scores that there are plenty of spares lurking. I hope this means I can ditch the More Music From album... I have only listened to it a couple of times but, like Back to Titanic, it has some additional music which is nice to have but also... dialogue. I love the OST and play it all the time in the car. I can't offhand see anything from the MMF that isn't here. Not sure about that weird All That Remains track, but I could never work out what on earth that was, nor why it was so brief. The alternates section looks healthy, which is really good. Tom Guernsey 1
Popular Post Edmilson 11,188 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 This has been a good year for HZ fans! Congratulations for your excellent work @Stéphane Humez! A. A. Ron, Ravi Krishna, Yavar Moradi and 5 others 5 3
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, Richard P said: I can't offhand see anything from the MMF that isn't here. Not sure about that weird All That Remains track, but I could never work out what on earth that was, nor why it was so brief. The alternates section looks healthy, which is really good. Not a single second previously released isn't in this album. Apart from the awful techno remix "Maximus Mix" ! lol But did you want that ? Raiders of the SoundtrArk, enderdrag64, Stark and 16 others 8 7 3 1
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Honestly? No. I was convinced that was on the original MMF for silly marketing reasons. I don't think I ever listened to it in full. But good to hear everything else is there! Stéphane Humez and enderdrag64 1 1
WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 @Stéphane Humez can you shed some light on Zimmer's process when he and two or three other composers are credited for a cue? Like "Rome Is The Light" / "Now We Are Free"/ "Busy Bee" etc. I assume it breaks down as Zimmer's initial tune, Gerard's vocal contributions, and Badelts...iterations on Zimmer's tune(?)
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 9 minutes ago, WampaRat said: @Stéphane Humez can you shed some light on Zimmer's process when he and two or three other composers are credited for a cue? Like "Rome Is The Light" / "Now We Are Free"/ "Busy Bee" etc. I assume it breaks down as Zimmer's initial tune, Gerard's vocal contributions, and Badelts...iterations on Zimmer's tune(?) Klaus & Lisa worked together, after Hans & Lisa came up with ideas (Hans explains this in the liners). Sometimes Lisa comes up with something and Klaus programmed or added stuff, like synth, percussions, ambient... On these Hans mostly gets credit for his tune(s) used. Rome Is The Light is a different case, it's an early Hans & Lisa idea. Klaus added some programming and added the percs later. OneBuckFilms, Edmilson, WampaRat and 1 other 1 3
WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Terrific. I'm looking forward to reading the liner notes. The packaging looks stellar too. A gorgeous release all around!
Stark 803 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I can’t lie, I have a soft spot for those remixes! Not really needed on an archival edition though. So glad this is here!
Popular Post Smeltington 1,824 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 Now this is a HUGE release! All JWFans on deck! I LOVE how this one is laid out... no doubts that 3 discs were really needed. No OST included, and no dialogue versions. Entire main score plays out in order across 2 discs. And the third disc with tons more material, with the most interesting stuff first, then all the rest at the end if you still want more. These are CDs that I'll actually want to put in my CD player and just listen straight through. Kudos!! Stéphane Humez, Richard P, OneBuckFilms and 8 others 9 2
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Something I'll want to try to do with this, is what I couldn't really do satisfactorily with Sleepy Hollow, to create an alternates album with probably 90% of what's on disc 3. Most scores don't have anywhere near enough bonus material to do that, but I suspected this would, and it looks great - a very worthy and comprehensive use of 3 discs.
Popular Post Edmilson 11,188 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 32 minutes ago, Stéphane Humez said: Apart from the awful techno remix "Maximus Mix" ! lol But did you want that ? I remember being traumatized when I was hearing the POTC 2 OST for the 1st time and suddenly those awful remixes at the end began... *shudders* Stéphane Humez, CatastrophicJones, HunterTech and 6 others 1 8
A. A. Ron 2,373 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Looks like an awesome program! Can't wait to play it to death.
Laserschwert 664 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, WampaRat said: The music used in first 26 seconds of that trailer, was the sample I would play ad nauseam for my parents as a youngster! I was obsessed with it. So great to finally have this! Same here, athough not to my parents, but to myself. I think that's why I dig the PotC soundtrack so much, as it seems to be birthed right out of this small snippet.
bollemanneke 4,183 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Stéphane, I feel guilty-not-guilty about adding yet another question for you. Could you tell us how Zimmer feels about these presentations? I’ve always thought that the wonderful presentations people like you are putting together now are what we all should have been able to buy from day one. Does Mr Zimmer have a special attachment to any particular OST presentation? Does he think that only this kind of treatment is the real deal? Or does he regard this as a product for hard-core fans? Mr. Who 1
Popular Post Jay 44,356 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 Artwork preview: https://warmbutter.com/albums/gladiator/ Sylvan, WampaRat and OneBuckFilms 3
Thor 9,327 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I'm curious about the sketchbook. There's often a lot of cool stuff in Zimmer's sketch-type variations.
Edmilson 11,188 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I also have a doubt about this score that has long plagued me. I saw somewhere that Gladiator was performed by the "Lyndhurst Orchestra", an orchestra that I haven't seen before or since doing any film music stuff. In Wikipedia there are many places called Lyndhurst... Some in Australia, one in Ontario, one in Hong Kong, another one in New Zealand, two in the United Kingdom and a few in the United States (in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndhurst So where the score was recorded? Is this Lyndhurst Orchestra a thing?
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Stéphane, I feel guilty-not-guilty about adding yet another question for you. Could you tell us how Zimmer feels about these presentations? I’ve always thought that the wonderful presentations people like you are putting together now are what we all should have been able to buy from day one. Does Mr Zimmer have a special attachment to any particular OST presentation? Does he think that only this kind of treatment is the real deal? Or does he regard this as a product for hard-core fans? Well he always told me "the albums are for the fans", and well, I'm a fan, so I have an idea what fans might want ! I always consider his initial albums to be "his take" on those scores. But make no mistake he rarely compiles even his OSTs. He'll definitely won't sit down and go through 2 or 3 hours of an expanded release, even though I like to send him some cues for feedback (on mastering, or remixing if need be) and he's always helpful. If he has a problem with anything, he knows he can tell me. But usually the only concern he tells me is... "Is it any good ?" and he trusts me to not fuck it up ! Just now, Edmilson said: I also have a doubt about this score that has long plagued me. I saw somewhere that Gladiator was performed by the "Lyndhurst Orchestra", an orchestra that I haven't seen before or since doing any film music stuff. In Wikipedia there are many places called Lyndhurst... Some in Australia, one in Ontario, one in Hong Kong, another one in New Zealand, two in the United Kingdom and a few in the United States (in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndhurst So where the score was recorded? Is this Lyndhurst Orchestra a thing? The score was recorded at Air Studios, Lyndhurst Hall. I believe since the orchestra had no name, they used the place's name ! Yavar Moradi, Once, WampaRat and 10 others 13
WampaRat 1,867 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 @Thor Yes I agree. I actually enjoyed the Dune Sketchbook more than the OST! Same for Dark Pheonix. Some of the sketchbook for Gladiator here looks like it was on the "More Music" Album back in the day (Gladiator Waltz, Duduk of the North, Rome Is The Light). But it will be nice to get the whole picture sans dialogue. A. A. Ron and Stark 2
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Certainly it will clarify where various materials originated from, i.e. some will have been mislabelled alternates and others will be from the sketchbook (the MMF had very poetic titles, and various other things float around YT with similarly questionable titles). And once it's clear in your head what things are and where they fit in the overall score, I find them easier to appreciate. WampaRat 1
bollemanneke 4,183 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 4 minutes ago, Stéphane Humez said: Well he always told me "the albums are for the fans", and well, I'm a fan, so I have an idea what fans might want ! I always consider his initial albums to be "his take" on those scores. But make no mistake he rarely compiles even his OSTs. He'll definitely won't sit down and go through 2 or 3 hours of an expanded release, even though I like to send him some cues for feedback (on mastering, or remixing if need be) and he's always helpful. If he has a problem with anything, he knows he can tell me. But usually the only concern he tells me is... "Is it any good ?" and he trusts me to not fuck it up ! The score was recorded at Air Studios, Lyndhurst Hall. I believe since the orchestra had no name, they used the place's name ! When you say he doesn't compile his own OSTs, is that by choice? Curious.
Popular Post Stéphane Humez 892 Posted April 1 Popular Post Posted April 1 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: When you say he doesn't compile his own OSTs, is that by choice? Curious. He has no time for this. Usually the albums need to be completed by the time the film gets out. Sometimes OSTs are even made BEFORE the score is even finished ! So he'll get one of his guys or additional writer to handle a selection. Marc Streitenfeld compiled The Rock's album in 1996, Jeff Rona Crimson Tide in 1995, or Al Clay POTC 1 in 2003 ! Trope, Ravi Krishna, bollemanneke and 5 others 7 1
Richard P 5,007 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Interesting... so I've been wrongly assuming Zimmer is a really good album producer. Someone else on his team evidently is.
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