Popular Post crumbs 15,456 Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 22 minutes ago, Meredith McKay said: Crumbs. Dude. Oopsy! Fixed 36 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Pretty awesome Intrada enlisted Neil Bulk and Mike Matessino on this new edition. A worthy revisit 15 years after the last one. Yavar Definitely! I'd love to see Alien upgraded at some point as well. These older expansions would benefit tremendously from modern technology, even if better elements haven't been discovered. Yavar Moradi, Davis and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,722 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 18 minutes ago, crumbs said: Definitely! I'd love to see Alien upgraded at some point as well. What's wrong with 2007 one? Just print more copies of that one. Problem solved. Mr. Lovejoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lovejoy 7,978 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Sounds great to me. A definitive release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,722 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 With a little more EQ, we can make those serpents and didgeridoos a bit brighter and louder, I guess. Mr. Lovejoy and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Here's the full info FIRST BLOOD (2CD - REMASTERED) Jerry Goldsmith Label: Intrada INT 7185 Film Date: 1982 Album Date: 2025 Time: 91:56 Tracks: 40 Price: $22.99 All-new edition of one of Intrada founder Doug Fake's personal favorite soundtracks! In honor of its 40th Anniversary, Intrada presents an all-new edition of one of founder Doug Fake's personal favorite soundtracks. The score is not only an important part of Jerry Goldsmith's large body of work, but also Intrada's formative years. First Blood initially appeared as the inaugural release of the Film Music Treasury series, an early version of the Special Collection. In assembling that release, Goldsmith and engineer Len Engel re-sequenced the original Regency album and located one extra track not previously released, using the ¼″ two-track mixes made in 1982 for the LP. However, the ¼″ masters were plagued with an interesting anomaly: though identified with the widely-used professional Dolby A encoding process, they did not possess unique tones identifying the Dolby encoding that allows for calibration of playback machines. In lieu of those critical tones, the original engineers addressed by reducing the inherent background hiss using equalization techniques, and attempts to rectify these anomalies were less than satisfactory. In 2010, Intrada located the multi-track session masters—complete and intact—every channel, every reel, every take. For the first time, all those interesting little bars that Goldsmith deleted to create his initial record could be restored within the full-length cues just as they were originally written and recorded. A brand-new presentation was created, uncut and intact, with newly mixed and re-mastered sound. However, in spite of Intrada's best efforts at the time, there still resulted an interesting anomaly—the tape speed was off and the music played a bit faster than intended. Additionally, some assemblies still eliminated a few of those aforementioned bars. For this new edition, Neil S. Bulk used Fake's stereo mixes and rebuilt the score and original soundtrack album from the ground up, addressing the speed issues and including a few unassembled extras so one can now truly hear everything. Some track titles have been adjusted to reflect their official cue sheet names. GRAMMY-nominee Mike Matessino mastered the album featuring new cover art by Stéphane Coëdel. With 2025 being Intrada's 40th year releasing soundtracks, the Intrada team felt a truly definitive First Blood would be an important way to mark not only the occasion but present another opportunity to celebrate Doug Fake. Track List CD 1 SCORE PRESENTATION 01. Theme From First Blood (Pop Orchestra Version) (4:12) 02. Homecoming (Film Version) (2:25) 03. Last Summer (1:02) 04. Back To Town (0:48) 05. The Razor (Film Version) (3:10) 06. No Warmth (1:07) 07. Hanging On (Film Version) (2:09) 08. Over The Cliff (Film Version) (1:29) 09. A Stitch In Time (1:01) 10. Mountain Hunt (Film Version) (5:01) 11. First Meal (0:43) 12. First Blood (Film Version) (5:14) 13. The Tunnel (Film Version) (3:31) 14. Escape Route (Film Version) (2:42) 15. Over The Top (1:02) 16. My Town (Film Version) (1:00) 17. No Power/Fireworks (2:54) 18. It’s A Long Road (3:28) 19. It’s A Long Road (Theme From First Blood – Vocal) (3:24) DISCRETE VERSIONS 20. No Power (1:01) 21. Fireworks (1:56) 22. Mission’s Over (0:49) TOTAL CD 1 TIME: 50:54 CD 2 ORIGINAL 1982 SOUNDTRACK ALBUM 01. It’s A Long Road (Theme From First Blood – Vocal) (3:24) 02. Escape Route (2:42) 03. First Blood (4:39) 04. The Tunnel (4:04) 05. Hanging On (3:32) 06. Homecoming (2:25) 07. Mountain Hunt (6:11) 08. My Town (1:57) 09. The Razor (3:14) 10. Over The Cliff (2:08) 11. It’s A Long Road (Instrumental) (2:56) TOTAL ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM TIME: 37:33 THE EXTRA 12. It’s A Long Road (Recording Session Piano/Vocal Demo) (3:25) TOTAL CD 2 TIME: 41:02 a good little monkey and OneBuckFilms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 1,149 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Samples sound excellent, and the album artwork is really nice - very striking and I like the darker hues. I don't own any previous version of this score. I may pick this one up in the future. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,575 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I wanted to buy this, but I see it's missing 2 tracks from the previous edition: Carolco Logo (00:19) Rambo (Special Summer 1984 Trailer) (01:15) I wonder why. I don't agree then with the description that it's "a truly definitive First Blood". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 6 Because those had nothing to do with First Blood, and have instead been where they belong, on Intrada's Rambo: First Blood Part II expansion, since 2016 https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.10541/.f obi777, filmmusic and Yavar Moradi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,575 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Because those had nothing to do with First Blood, and have instead been where they belong, on Intrada's Rambo: First Blood Part II expansion, since 2016 https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.10541/.f Oh, the summer trailer was for the second movie? Do you know what track is it? track 29 or 30 in the 2nd cd? edit: Oh, I've listened to them. It's neither! Then that track is exclusive to the first Intrada edition of First Blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 First Blood came out in 1982. This music Jerry wrote 2 years later doesn't belong on a release of music for First Blood. It belongs on Rambo: First Blood Part II's expansion. The Carolco Logo music is used on that film, and didn't exist yet when First Blood was made. And yes, it's a trailer for the second film, not for the first film Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,575 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, Jay said: First Blood came out in 1982. This music Jerry wrote 2 years later doesn't belong on a release of music for First Blood. It belongs on Rambo: First Blood Part II's expansion. The Carolco Logo music is used on that film, and didn't exist yet when First Blood was made. OK, but did you read my edit? The summer trailer music is not in the second movie soundtrack either, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Sure it is obi777 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,575 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Jay said: Sure it is OK, maybe it matches the 1984 summer trailer music (I didn't follow it all), it just misses then a high strings intro that that track had.. haha. Anyway, no big deal I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 The finished trailer might have used a mixture of the Original and Revised, I haven't bothered to analyze Regardless, none of this music belongs on a First Blood release, and has been available on Intrada's Rambo: First Blood Part II release since 2016. Yavar Moradi and obi777 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfallon 45 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Curious about a couple things… what does discrete versions mean? Just separated from each other? And are First Meal and Missions Over unreleased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 It means they are presented as complete cues in their own track with a clean opening and ending. In the main program "No Power" and "Fireworks" are combined together to form the track "No Power / Fireworks". In the bonus tracks, you can hear each cue from start to finish all by themselves. "Mission's Over" is the first part of "It's a Long Road" in the main program. In the bonus track you can hear the full recorded ending of "Mission's Over", while the clean opening of "It's A Long Road" is in the album program (as "It's A Long Road (Instrumental)"). All 3 of these discrete cues were released that way on the 2022 Quartet vinyl box set, so now that box set had nothing unique (content-wise) that is not included here. Of course, the vinyl box set had Chris Malone mastering, while this has Mike Matessino mastering. Yavar Moradi and obi777 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfallon 45 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Thanks for answering Jay… surprised how excited I am to buy this for a 4th time lol. But feel like it’s going to be a revelation. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 6 I will be buying it and selling off my 2010 edition. OneBuckFilms, Jfallon and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 42,232 Posted May 6 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 6 Wow. Neil has written a truly wonderful blogpost about this release, explaining the pitch issues on the prior edition, the work he did for the 2022 vinyl, and how he did everything anew for this edition. I was also very touched by his words about Doug Fake. A great read https://the-sounding-bored.blogspot.com/2025/05/second-blood.html Raiders of the SoundtrArk, crumbs, Yavar Moradi and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 441 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'm also upgrading. I think this score deserves the corrections and tweaks, and this sounds like a truly definitive version of the score. The previous release will be passed on to others so they can discover the score for themselves. Demondm810 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,722 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Maybe they can redo Rambo III next so it sounds more like the earlier releases. That 2018 release is hot on the VU meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,783 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: Maybe they can redo Rambo III next so it sounds more like the earlier releases. That 2018 release is hot on the VU meter. Voovoo land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 3,504 Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 I would happily rebuy Rambo: First Blood Part II and Rambo III on CD *again*... if Neil Bulk is doing his painstaking work, and either Mike Matessino or Chris Malone is working on the sound. Yavar A. A. Ron, OneBuckFilms, CatastrophicJones and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 10,069 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 16 hours ago, crumbs said: Samples are up! So are cattle mutilations. 16 hours ago, crumbs said: I'd liken this remaster to the difference between FSM's Wrath of Khan and LLL's newer version. I was so surprised by this, I was about to complain that nobody told me the new version has better sound, because if I'd known that, I wouldn't have skipped it. Then I checked my collection and saw that I do have it. I didn't remember I owned three versions of the score… Jurassic Shark and OneBuckFilms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H 38 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'm hoping the brass sustain in Hanging On (when Rambo realises he is stuck between the cliff and the dogs) has been extended out to match the film. It's only a minor issue and a few more fleeting seconds but it flows way more naturally than the abrupt edit in all previous versions. Jfallon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slitherjump 44 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 17 minutes ago, Steve H said: I'm hoping the brass sustain in Hanging On (when Rambo realises he is stuck between the cliff and the dogs) has been extended out to match the film. It's only a minor issue and a few more fleeting seconds but it flows way more naturally than the abrupt edit in all previous versions. Comparing the track you mentioned in both titles and there’s a 7 second difference. Hopefully they fixed the issue you mentioned Steve H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,820 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 06/05/2025 at 4:38 AM, Lady Dimitrescu said: I'll stick with my LP. How do you get it into the CD player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,722 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 34 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: How do you get it into the CD player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 1,265 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 13 hours ago, Steve H said: I'm hoping the brass sustain in Hanging On (when Rambo realises he is stuck between the cliff and the dogs) has been extended out to match the film. It's only a minor issue and a few more fleeting seconds but it flows way more naturally than the abrupt edit in all previous versions. I'm hoping they add the tracked ending from the Freud Main Title- wait, wrong Hanging On... bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 1,436 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 29/4/2025 at 4:25 PM, Jurassic Shark said: It's probably digitally denoised to death. @Schilkeman is gonna love it! I would never spend that much money on an expansion these days, but if you’re wondering if I’ve restarted my classical collection for a third time to focus primarily on Telarc releases, yes, yes I have. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 441 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 My copy arrived, and I'm currently enjoying the listen. Great sound quality, especially compared to prior releases. Kudos to all involved. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trope 1,149 Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 Heck yes! Digital release. Sounds excellent. Jurassic Shark, Gabriel Bezerra, Edmilson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slitherjump 44 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 06/05/2025 at 6:47 AM, filmmusic said: OK, maybe it matches the 1984 summer trailer music (I didn't follow it all), it just misses then a high strings intro that that track had.. haha. Anyway, no big deal I guess. I see what you're referring to. I looked at the fsm thread about this and the reason it wasn't added in Rambo 2 is cuz that was a sound effect not made by Jerry Goldsmith. Also looking at the trailer on youtube, it doesn't appear for all the trailer showings filmmusic and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lovejoy 7,978 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 They drew first blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 9,130 Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 Managed to listen this morning. It definitely sounds better than the previous edition. It is my favourite of the three as it really has big heart behind all the muscle. Good upgrade. Karol Trope, Yavar Moradi and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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