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Michael Kamen's THE THREE MUSKETEERS (1993) - 2025 Intrada 2-CD edition


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9 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

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Just announced on facebook!

Wow! What I think is the best Kamen score, at last in complete (?) form!

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/95015405220/permalink/10171722160020221/

Your post is not yet complete, I fixed it for you.

 

 

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1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

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Just announced on facebook!

Wow! What I think is the best Kamen score, at last in complete (?) form!

 

Fantastic! More Disney stuff is always welcome.

 

And did our friend @Steffromuk do the cover?

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Damn. Beat me to it. Really looking forward to this one. I always enjoyed it more than Robin Hood POT (although you can argue how comparable they are but I always kinda think of them as a pair). Very excited for this. 

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It's a gorgeous, fun score. Everytime there is an announcement like this, it's like a reminder -- I peek over to my CD shelf to see if I still have it (since I've traded off so many things over the years), and thankfully it sits there, comfortably. :)

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I will be getting this, most likely. How is the material outside of the album? I've never seen this.

 

Karol

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Me neither, but I listened to the OST a few weeks ago and I liked it. If Robin Hood is more English and medieval then TTM is more baroque.

 

The OST has decent listening experience, but I'd like to experience the score in a complete & chronological format (even though I think Kamen's scores feel a tad too long than they should, typical case of overscoring).

 

I've never seen the movie, it seems to have been even more forgotten than Prince of Thieves. According to Jon Broxton, "most of the action music from the end of the film is missing entirely, and has never been released.".

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14 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

I always enjoyed it more than Robin Hood POT (I always kinda think of them as a pair).

Not sure if I like this more, maybe this expansion will illuminate, but agree that they're a pair, whenever I listen to one have to listen to the other. 

 

6 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I've never seen the movie, it seems to have been even more forgotten than Prince of Thieves. According to Jon Broxton, "most of the action music from the end of the film is missing entirely, and has never been released.".

I think this was because a lot of the score for the final act hadn't been recorded when the album was being produced (although can't find a source for that so could be mixing it up with something else) 

 

Also just learned Bon Jovi did a song for this film that went unused and think All For Love was a much better choice, just the perfect kind of 90's cheese! 

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It's a good movie and score. Kiefer Sutherland looked like Obi-Wan in the prequels and Oliver Platt was sort of a prototype for Jack Sparrow, if he was kinda chunky. Disney used to put out fun live action movies in that Eisner era.

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I don’t think I’ve ever heard this. Definitely didn’t see the movie. But it sounds like Good Kamen, not Bad Kamen. 

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10 hours ago, WampaRat said:

I found this great interview with Kamen where he talks about the research he did for Three Musketeers and Robin Hood. It also goes into some of his other work.
https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/michael-kamen/

 

Very nice!

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18 hours ago, WampaRat said:

I found this great interview with Kamen where he talks about the research he did for Three Musketeers and Robin Hood. It also goes into some of his other work.
https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/michael-kamen/

There was another interview I was trying to locate that was conducted around the time he was initially scoring the film back in '93. He detailed recording upwards of 2 hours of music for the film. Can't seem to find it though. 

Wonder if they'll go into the beef Rod Stewart and Sting had while trying to record "All For Love." ;) 
https://www.smoothradio.com/features/the-story-of/all-for-love-bryan-adams-rod-stewart-sting/

Great find! Thanks for sharing. 
 

One thing confuses me though, after reading this—I was always under the impression that RH:PoT was a rush job and that’s why Kamen turned to using a whole slew of orchestrators. But it seems like he had a normal amount of time to write that score. 

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Ordered!
Very very excited.

52 minutes ago, HunterTech said:

 

When you compare Jonathan Broxton's story on how the production of X-Men's score went, versus how Kamen officially talked about it, you certainly get the impression that he's very cordial when it comes to talking about his experiences on more hectic productions.

He was a class act. He also seemed hard pressed to swear in that interview lol (who says "stinky" instead of "sh*ty" in the entertainment/music industry? )

Listening to the samples. Its cool to hear that "Ship Fight" isn't just a tracked version of the sword fight cue earlier in the film. Theres lots more going on than I could hear in the film. 

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On 25/05/2025 at 2:55 AM, WampaRat said:

Some of the orchestral performances in that score sound a bit rough.

 

That's a bit of an understatement?

 

On 25/05/2025 at 2:55 AM, WampaRat said:

I posted this a bit ago. But here's my joke about how badly Disney wanted to replicate the success of Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves:

I'm sure the pitch went thusly:

 

How does shooting in Vienna fit into that list? (I've never seen the film, but I remember seeing the barriers they put up to keep the public away when I was at school)

 

On 25/05/2025 at 2:55 AM, WampaRat said:

"Prince of Thieves had Michael Wincott as a second-in-comand baddie. Let's do that too!"

 

To be fair, he was in everything during that time.

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On 27/05/2025 at 6:34 AM, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Cue new release of Robin Hood. 

Maybe when they have finally found the mythical 'Robin Hood lives' track.

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3 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

Maybe when they have finally found the mythical 'Robin Hood lives' track.

 

Will we get this or a new release of Inchon first? 🤔

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28 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

Maybe when they have finally found the mythical 'Robin Hood lives' track.

Wait, the 2020 LLL is still not complete despite running for 4 hours across 3 CDs? Which cue is this "Robin Hood lives"?

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7 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Wait, the 2020 LLL is still not complete despite running for 4 hours across 3 CDs?

Nope, about 5 minutes missing. The ever-elusive 12M1.

 

Karol

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30 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Geez. Is it an important cue with interesting material? Or something not that substantial or interesting?

 

 

28 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Is it on YouTube?


I looked to see if I could find the scene on Youtube. Couldn't find it. But if you're familiar with the film, its after the big celt battle in the forest. Azeem is searching the bodies in the aftermath, looking for Robin. We see his silhouette (and 90s feathered mullet!) against the english fog, letting the audience know he's alive and well. 
The cue is a brief but triumphant rendition of the main Prince of Thieves theme. Not super substantial. Its short. Is it significant/important? Kinda. Do you need it to have a fuller appreciation of Kamen's musical narrative? Nah. Not really. It's one of my favorite scores, and even I have a tough time making it through that entire set lol.

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44 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Wait, the 2020 LLL is still not complete despite running for 4 hours across 3 CDs?


It was Intrada, and it is 4-CDs.

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Just going off my memory, but the fanfare bit is brief. The majority of the cue I wanna say is reminiscent of Witch material and "Gisborn Brings Bad News." So, save for that fanfare bit, we have a lot of similar music already throughout the set.  

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14 minutes ago, Jay said:

Bold highlighting is mine.  I believe all the other music he talks about in this 2018 post eventually showed up on their 2020 edition when they found a source with more music on it, but the part I bolded is the major thing that still wasn't found anywhere.

 

The Jeff Lynne track remains unavailable, due to licensing restrictions

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Jay's list excluded some other stuff that was all added to the 4CD edition later on. (Boy in the Tree, Celt Battle Pt2, Will Captured). Presumably because those were parts of larger tracks.

So all that is missing is definitely the Robins Alive/Marriage Plans

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Perfectly stated WampaRat! I also am leaning towards liking this better than RH after hearing this remastered and complete version. It can’t sound any better. RH to me seems to have a muddy sound compared to the freshness of this Musketeers release. Wonder if that’s how it was recorded.. anyway one of Kamen’s best!

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It's a fine score and Kamen clearly put some effort into this - I do wonder how much time good old Don Davis spent on this: 

 

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