Popular Post Andy 6,538 Posted July 1 Popular Post Posted July 1 Looks like this is getting reissued, which I’m thankful for. New cover art at the end of the video. Roger confirms this isn’t just another reissue. Quote It's the 3-CD set but not strictly a reissue. We worked with Chris Malone to fix a handful of things we weren't happy with. And now have new cover art designed by Stephane Coedel. Congratulations to @Steffromuk on another superb looking cover! HunterTech, crumbs, Yavar Moradi and 3 others 3 2 1
Popular Post Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 1 Popular Post Posted July 1 One of the things Intrada, like me, wasn't happy about was the omission of the percussion overlay on "It's You!". It's in the film, on the Intrada promo CD and the Quartet vinyl, but not on the previous 2 Intrada CD's. Roger confirmed on the FSM message board that it's included on the new CD. Andy, HunterTech, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 2 1 2
Popular Post Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 8 Popular Post Posted July 8 YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES Music Composed and Conducted by BRUCE BROUGHTON INTRADA ISC 522 https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.13219/.f?sc=13&category=-113 Intrada presents an updated edition of one of its most popular titles—Bruce Broughton's score to the 1985 Paramount Pictures film Young Sherlock Holmes.This refresh, overseen by Chris Malone, updates and addresses some anomalies in the prior release. As with the prior release, the album is sourced from the film mix created by Eric Tomlinson and from the original LP master. The 3-CD package includes the complete score from the Tomlinson mixes as well as additional extras and of course the complete LP program as originally assembled by Broughton in 1985. The album also features updated cover art by Stéphane Coëdel. Broughton was relatively new to the theatrical side of the business when he was tapped to score Young Sherlock Holmes, having worked mostly in television for the first decade of his career. Director Barry Levinson’s kinetic film, with its fluid pace and wide variety of tones, presented him with a fresh yet daunting challenge. Broughton responded with a stunning, wall-to-wall symphonic work that made a deep impression on soundtrack fans and industry professionals alike, earning a GRAMMY nomination for Best Instrumental Composition and winning a Saturn Award for Best Music from the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films. The original MCA Records album, released on LP and cassette, received high marks in Billboard, who praised it as “a traditional orchestral score, which Broughton infuses with both dash and sweetness.” Remarkably, the MCA album never made the transition to a commercial CD until Intrada licensed it. Young Sherlock Holmes was the brainchild of three primary parents: writer Chris Columbus, executive producer Steven Spielberg and director Barry Levinson.The central premise of Young Sherlock Holmes suggests that Holmes and Watson did not first meet as adults in a chemical laboratory at St. Bartholomew’s Hospital, but as adolescents. In the story, a series of baffling murders puts young Holmes on the trail of an Egyptian cult practicing human sacrifice in the bowels of London. Dismissed by the police and maligned by his peers, the budding detective sets out with only a few close allies to unravel the plot—culminating in a fiery confrontation with an evil mastermind bent on revenge. Track-list: CD 1 01. The First Victim (2:59) 02. The Old Hat Trick (1:45) 03. Main Title (2:03) 04. Watson’s Arrival (1:03) 05. The Bear Riddle (0:47) 06. Library Love/Waxflatter’s First Flight (2:54) 07. Fencing With Rathe (1:08) 08. The Glass Soldier (3:24) 09. Solving The Crime (4:56) 10. Second Attempt (1:11) 11. Cold Revenge (4:09) 12. Waxflatter’s Death (3:41) 13. The Hat (1:22) 14. Holmes And Elizabeth – Love Theme (1:59) 15. Getting The Point (6:21) CD 1 Total Time: 40:16 CD 2 01. Rame Tep (3:08) 02. Pastries And Crypts (6:48) 03. Discovered By Rathe (4:56) 04. To Cragwitch’s (1:35) 05. The Explanation (1:49) 06. Cragwitch Goes Again (1:24) 07. It’s You! (6:19) 08. Waxing Elizabeth (3:40) 09. Temple Fire (3:25) 10. Ehtar’s Escape (Revised Version) (4:06) 11. Duel And Final Farewell (5:42) 12. The Riddles Solved And End Credits (6:32) 13. Ytrairom Spelled Backwards (0:50) CD 2 Total Time: 50:33 CD 3 The Extras 01. Main Title (Film Version) (1:46) 02. Waxflatter’s Death (Original) (2:47) 03. Belly Dancer (1:02) 04. Rame Tep (Orchestra) (3:08) 05. Rame Tep (Chorus) (3:02) 06. It’s You! (Alternate) (6:18) 07. Waxing Elizabeth (Orchestra) (3:40) 08. Ehtar’s Escape (Original Version) (4:06) 09. God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen (arr. Bruce Broughton) (1:08) Total Extras Time: 26:57 Original 1985 MCA Soundtrack Album 10. Main Title (2:03) 11. Solving The Crime (4:57) 12. Library Love/Waxflatter’s First Flight (2:28) 13. Pastries & Crypts (5:49) 14. Waxing Elizabeth (3:40) 15. Holmes And Elizabeth – Love Theme (2:00) 16. Ehtar’s Escape (4:06) 17. The Final Duel (3:54) 18. Final Farewell (1:58) 19. The Riddles Solved/End Credits (6:30) Total Album Time: 37:25 CD 3 Total Time: 65:10 Steffromuk, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 5
crocodile 9,402 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Not sure if I need this once again. Definitely not in the foreseeable future. I do have three releases of this already. But happy for everyone who missed out. Karol
GerateWohl 6,233 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 It's good. I have the old 3-disc edition. I wouldn't say, that I needed every minute of it. But a nice gimmick are the different Carmina Bur... sorry, Rame Tep versions. Jurassic Shark 1
Jay 44,227 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Chris Malone says: The new Intrada Young Sherlock Holmes allowed opportunity to revisit the work done for the Quartet Records LPs and extend that to include Bruce Broughton’s 1985 OST and the bonus tracks selected by Doug Fake. This is a start to finish reediting and remastering to salute one of the greatest scores of the 1980s. It’s particularly gratifying to see it available on both vinyl and CD in 2025, where I hope it has the chance to enthrall and entertain listeners new and old. And no one is forcing you to buy it! Everyone wins! Chris https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=160273&forumID=1&archive=0 Yavar Moradi and Once 1 1
Popular Post 1977 1,916 Posted July 8 Popular Post Posted July 8 Terrific cover art @Steffromuk! 😁 (I knew it was yours before I read the copy) I should probably make an effort to listen to my 2 iterations older Intrada CD sometime. Steffromuk, A. A. Ron and Yavar Moradi 2 1
Xander Harris 8,636 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 I’ve never been a big fan of this score but I find some parts enjoyable. For me it’s probably best enjoyed as a suite. It does have that Amblin atmosphere about it. The end sword fight looks like it was repurposed for the pirate town in Hook.
scallenger 647 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 So what else apart from the one overlay restored is new? Given that this version is $10 more than the previous set was (for the same amount of CDs) I just want to make sure I really want to "upgrade" this time.
Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Someone on the FSM noticed that in the sample of "Waxing Elizabeth" the choir is missing for the first 8 seconds. So, while some anomalies in the prior release were adressed a new one was also created. That's a huge bummer!
HunterTech 1,554 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Weeelllll given Out of Africa's sample blunder, that's not immediately indicative that the actual release will have that mistake. Especially when I'm sure the Quartet LP release doesn't have that error, so it'd be a really weird omission for what's supposed to be an existing finalized mix. Yavar Moradi 1
scallenger 647 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 8 hours ago, Frank Vincent said: Someone on the FSM noticed that in the sample of "Waxing Elizabeth" the choir is missing for the first 8 seconds. So, while some anomalies in the prior release were adressed a new one was also created. That's a huge bummer! Omg I hope they address that. Otherwise... It never ennnnnddddddssss!
HunterTech 1,554 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 This is news to me: @Chris Malone says that this release is the proper digital premiere of the Tomlinson mix for Waxing Elizabeth! From FSM: Quote Prior editions seem to have substituted the OST mix, by Dan Wallin, which is still on Disc 3. Disc 2 has a mix made by Eric Tomlinson. Chris Quote Hi Amer! Yes, apart from the OST portion on Disc 3 (Tracks 10-19), we used stereo mixes made by Eric Tomlinson, which was also mostly also done for the previous 3-CD edition, ISC 429. However, “Waxing Elizabeth” was one notable exception where the Dan Wallin OST mix was used for both Disc 2 Track 8 and Disc 3 Track 14 of ISC 429. For those making playlists or curating their own edition, you can decide which you prefer and/or use anything you like from ISC 429 for that matter. Chris Thing is: when you listen to the sample of the track for Quartet's LP release, the choir is there in those opening 8 seconds! So I have to now ask if that used the Wallin mix for the track as well, because it'd be a weird thing to have missing if the mix was stereo to begin with.
Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Then the promo CD Douglas Fake and Bruce Broughton produced years ago also used the Wallin mix as the choir on that release is also included.
Jay 44,227 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 In the actual film is there choir during those first 8 seconds?
Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 12 minutes ago, Jay said: In the actual film is there choir during those first 8 seconds? Yes, I've checked my Blu-ray release this morning. According to Chris Malone on the FSM message board the Quartet vinyl also used the Wallin mix for "Waxing Elizabeth": Quote The Quartet LPs also used the OST mix. However, I fudged it a fair amount to blend better with the track following it. The OST mix has some different placements and the (unmastered) tonality and hiss level on the raw tape transfers is quite different. As it opened Side D, and didn't have a track preceding it, it's probably not as noticable there. This should mean the film, 2002 promo album and 2014 Intrada album all also used the Wallin mix for this cue.
Jay 44,227 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 So if I understand correctly: There's choir during the first 8 seconds in the film. And on the OST album. And on the first Intrada promo. And on the 2-CD Intrada set. And on the 3-CD Intrada set. And On the Quartet vinyl. But now on this new 2025 Intrada 3-CD, they are releasing for the first time ever, a mix Tomlinson made in 1985 that didn't have choir during the first 8 seconds? Even though the mix of that cue that's in the film itself (presumably also done by Tomlinson), did have choir? Is that all right?
Frank Vincent 295 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 53 minutes ago, Jay said: So if I understand correctly: There's choir during the first 8 seconds in the film. And on the OST album. And on the first Intrada promo. And on the 2-CD Intrada set. And on the 3-CD Intrada set. And On the Quartet vinyl. But now on this new 2025 Intrada 3-CD, they are releasing for the first time ever, a mix Tomlinson made in 1985 that didn't have choir during the first 8 seconds? Even though the mix of that cue that's in the film itself (presumably also done by Tomlinson), did have choir? Is that all right? Yes, that seems to be the case. BTW, Douglas Fake created a new mix for the 2-CD set.
Popular Post Trope 1,343 Posted July 10 Popular Post Posted July 10 Wow, I've never heard of this film or album before. I just perused the track samples and this sounds really great! I may have to investigate this score further. I only know Broughton from his Rescuers Down Under score (which I really like). Yavar Moradi, Jay and Andy 3
Andy 6,538 Posted July 10 Author Posted July 10 It’s sensational. Probably my favorite Broughton. It oozes 80s Amblin. The noble themes for Holmes, Watson, and the Love Theme are full of heart. And Broughton can make any orchestra sound terrific. That said, I will concede that. Broughton’s Kryptonite is action music. Or in this case, horror/thriller music where the atonality can descend into chaotic madness that is hard on the ears. But make no mistake, this belongs in every collection. Maybe start with the OST on Disc 3. And then go back and play “Solving the Crime” five times in a row and marvel at its infectious power. Dr. Know and Yavar Moradi 1 1
FBC Director 10,307 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 I have the first Intrada release and I was thinking of selling it. Never really connected with this score.
GerateWohl 6,233 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 8 minutes ago, Andy said: Maybe start with the OST on Disc 3. Or maybe the OST would have been enough? Anyway it's a good score.
scallenger 647 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 I'll wait and see how the final product of this version is before shelling out money again. Just baffled that there could STILL be issues lol.
Andy 6,538 Posted July 10 Author Posted July 10 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: Or maybe the OST would have been enough? Anyway it's a good score. I at first dismissed your comment but perhaps there’s truth to it? I didn’t grow up with this one and my first exposure was the Intrada Promo which was I think the full score. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the OST program (I missed the previous Intrada) so yeah maybe it is enough. But the same can be said of SO many expansions. But I like having both and look forward to this set. by the way the 8 seconds of missing choir are on the OST in Disc 3, they’re just not in the film program presentation where they belong. Weird, but in no way a dealbreaker. GerateWohl 1
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 3,996 Posted July 10 Popular Post Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Andy said: That said, I will concede that. Broughton’s Kryptonite is action music. IIRC Shadow Conspiracy for the same director has some pretty badass stuff too... But I agree that on album I don't really enjoy listening to his more atonal horror writing. Somehow I have a lot more tolerance for that kind of thing with Goldsmith. Yavar Andy, Stark and ThePenitentMan1 3
Stark 775 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 I'm a huge Broughton fan but Young Sherlock is probably my least favorite Broughton that I made the mistake of buying. Mostly because of the horror music. Good for my wallet that this is the score everybody else loves enough to buy 8 times
Yavar Moradi 3,996 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 It’s definitely one I remember crafting a playlist for to enjoy better. I should try to find that and compare my old whittle of the 2CD promo with the original album program, which I’ve never had. Yavar
ThePenitentMan1 1,414 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: I'm noticing that with Broughton, if you asked me out of the blue to remember a specific theme he wrote (that wasn't Lost In Space), I probably wouldn't be able to hum it to you. But as soon as I listen to the score again, I suddenly remember how the theme goes as I'm listening to it, and I really start enjoying the music again. I have no idea why I never got around to buying Silverado or Tombstone (Or YSH!), even though I do have so many other scores that do comparatively less for me than those do!
Yavar Moradi 3,996 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: I'm noticing that with Broughton, if you asked me out of the blue to remember a specific theme he wrote (that wasn't Lost In Space), I probably wouldn't be able to hum it to you. That's funny, because I can recall a dozen Broughton themes off the top of my head, but Lost in Space is one I struggle with more because I don't think it has as memorable a theme as he's demonstrated being able to do elsewhere. Here are some of my favorite and most memorable Broughton themes, starting with YSH since that's what this thread is about... (to be sure it's a bit tricky for me to hum this theme, but I can instantly recall it to mind) (super catchy and fun) (his most badass theme?) (this might be my personal favorite Broughton theme actually... so insanely catchy) (such a gorgeous main theme right off the bat!) And for a final more obscure drama pick, try the theme that starts 53 seconds into this (before that is the main theme, which I also like but find less memorable): Yavar ThePenitentMan1 and Tom Guernsey 2
rough cut 1,783 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 I don’t own any of the previous releases but just considered buying it - so this was very well timed news! Is this a very limited release? Should I expect it to sell out quickly?
ThePenitentMan1 1,414 Posted July 12 Posted July 12 4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: That's funny, because I can recall a dozen Broughton themes off the top of my head, but Lost in Space is one I struggle with more because I don't think it has as memorable a theme as he's demonstrated being able to do elsewhere. I guess that makes sense. Meanwhile, I not only grew up with Broughton's Lost In Space, but my very first exposure to it was as the soundtrack to a tie-in edutainment PC game, in the form of little 15-ish-second loops: 6 Telescope Drop.wav ...So I guess it's primarily nostalgia and familiarity in play here. I don't think I'll ever be able to listen to another Broughton score nearly as many times as I've played Lost In Space throughout my life! 5 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Here are some of my favorite and most memorable Broughton themes, starting with YSH since that's what this thread is about... (to be sure it's a bit tricky for me to hum this theme, but I can instantly recall it to mind) (super catchy and fun) (his most badass theme?) (this might be my personal favorite Broughton theme actually... so insanely catchy) (such a gorgeous main theme right off the bat!) And for a final more obscure drama pick, try the theme that starts 53 seconds into this (before that is the main theme, which I also like but find less memorable): Yavar Silverado and Tombstone are great! What I meant earlier was simply that I'm not familiar enough with those scores to have memorized them like I did Lost In Space. I really need to get them the next time I get the chance. Rescuers Down Under used to be on that "not terribly familiar with it" list, too, until I finally gave up waiting for a reissue or trying to seek out a real copy and just downloaded it from the internet. I really do like the main theme for RDU. Homeward Bound II, I also have physically, and I bought HBI digitally later; they don't get quite as many listens, and I do have to think a bit to remember its themes, but I do remember them at least. Yavar Moradi 1
Popular Post HunterTech 1,554 Posted July 15 Popular Post Posted July 15 Holko, Andy, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 1 1 2
Tom Guernsey 3,469 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 I’m still torn on this one. I think it’s a great score (I love Broughton generally) and didn’t feel I was missing much with the prior 3 disc set as I had the 2 disc set before that; the improvements seemed relatively nominal and I wasn’t that bothered about adding the OST sequence. Agh!
crocodile 9,402 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 So what is the general consensus on this release? I do own the previous two Intrada set as well as the Quartet vinyl. Is this worth investing in? Karol
Steffromuk 659 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 hour ago, crocodile said: So what is the general consensus on this release? I do own the previous two Intrada set as well as the Quartet vinyl. Is this worth investing in? Karol I'd say it really depends on your love for this score. The changes from the previous release set are minor. You won't notice them if you don't pay attention. But if you're a completist and you want to own the best looking set , go for it. Yavar Moradi 1
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