PLURIBUS - Spoilers allowed for all aired episodes

[Jay 46,346]

The official upload of the teaser trailer won't be live for another 2 hours+:

 

 

However, its available unofficially on twitter

 

 

Premieres November 7 on Apple TV+

 

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

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Vince Gilligan show starring Rhea Seehorn

 

That's a perfect pitch for a show.

[Jay 46,346]

Variety article with a promo pic

 

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/pluribus-vince-gilligan-new-show-release-date-first-look-1236468199/

 

 

[Not Mr. Big 5,011]

Interested in the show based on Gilligan and Seehorn but that trailer is nasty and doesn't make me wanna watch it.  It's like if the Avatar 3 trailer was just Jake Sully taking a massive shit or if the Superman trailer was Clark taking a massive dump. 

[JazzyNips 189]

It's too bad she's stuck with television. She's had some bit parts in film, but I guess she's too old at this point to start a career as a lead actor.

[Quintus 6,516]

I'll automatically be giving this a look, but the title is horrible.

[A24 5,163]

3 hours ago, JazzyNips said:

It's too bad she's stuck with television. She's had some bit parts in film, but I guess she's too old at this point to start a career as a lead actor.

 

Television is where the great acting opportunities are. 

 

People will remember Bryan Cranston for his portrayal of Walter White in Breaking Bad, not for Godzilla or any other movie he appeared in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

36 minutes ago, A24 said:

Bryan Cranston for his portrayal of Walter White in Breaking Bad

 

And Malcolm In The Middle!

[A24 5,163]

Let's do the test.

 

"Here lies our beloved Bryan 'Malcolm In The Middle' Cranston." 

 

Hmm ... don't see that happening, to be honest.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

Maybe the new Malcolm In The Middle series will change that?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

6 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said:

Interested in the show based on Gilligan and Seehorn but that trailer is nasty and doesn't make me wanna watch it.

 

I would eat a donut Rhea Seehorn licked, But maybe that's just me?

[Quintus 6,516]

I would crawl on my hands and knees through five miles of broken glass just to hear Rhea fart through a walkie talkie.

[JazzyNips 189]

8 hours ago, A24 said:

 

Television is where the great acting opportunities are. 

 

People will remember Bryan Cranston for his portrayal of Walter White in Breaking Bad, not for Godzilla or any other movie he appeared in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because he's also too old to be a lead actor. 

[Marian Schedenig 11,727]

I watched Breaking Bad (years after everyone else, and I found it good, but not nearly as great as everyone else says) for Bryan Cranston and was most excited to discover Jonathan Banks. I watched Better Call Saul (just after it had completed I think, and I loved it) for Banks and was most excited to discover Rhea Seehorn.

 

I'm looking forward to this a lot. And I wonder who's going to steal the show for me this time.

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

9 hours ago, A24 said:

People will remember Bryan Cranston for his portrayal of Walter White in Breaking Bad, not for Godzilla or any other movie he appeared in.

 

Yeah, but it's also easy to give lots of examples where an actor's best, most memorable or most highly regarded work is in a film rather than a television show...

[A24 5,163]

1 hour ago, Glóin the Dark said:

 

Yeah, but it's also easy to give lots of examples where an actor's best, most memorable or most highly regarded work is in a film rather than a television show...

 

in the olden days perhaps (when movies were about characters instead of spectacle).

 

 

Alex Scorsese

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

No, now!

 

Edit: Didn't see your edit before I replied.

 

42 minutes ago, A24 said:

...when movies were about characters instead of spectacle...

 

There are loads of contemporary films with interesting characters and performances.

 

42 minutes ago, A24 said:

Alex Scorsese

 

I think Scorsese would agree with me.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

She was only born in the 70s, so she'd be about 30ish.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

3 hours ago, Quintus said:

I would crawl on my hands and knees through five miles of broken glass just to hear Rhea fart through a walkie talkie.

 

Fawk!

[Edmilson 12,393]

11 hours ago, A24 said:

People will remember Bryan Cranston for his portrayal of Walter White in Breaking Bad, not for Godzilla

To be fair, no one remembers the human characters in these Monsterverse Godzilla movies.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

What now?

[A24 5,163]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

To be fair, no one remembers the human characters in these Monsterverse Godzilla movies.

 

True. 

 

Today's movies are rarely about characters or about people.

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

7 minutes ago, A24 said:

Today's movies are rarely about characters or about people.

 

I bet that, for every recent film you can name which is not about characters or people, I can name two which are.

[A24 5,163]

6 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said:

 

I bet that, for every recent film you can name which is not about characters or people, I can name two which are.

 

You're on!

 

Godzilla

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

Godland

God's Own Country

[mrbellamy 8,254]

I think you might be proving his argument more than your own lol

 

At least name movies that played in 600 theaters (bare minimum for a wide release) 

 

Btw I think that could still go a long way 

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

Well, obviously I could have named more prominent films; I was (mostly) joking in picking the first two eligible films that came to mind whose titles also started with "God-".

 

As for the number of theatres, I never have the foggiest notion how many any film opens in, or what is considered normal. Where does one find that out?

 

In any case, while I think those two films fit the bill perfectly well (they both got attention in the mainstream promotional media when they came out and have been easily accessible), I'll offer two more recent and better known alternatives instead:

 

The Brutalist

A Real Pain

[mrbellamy 8,254]

Box Office Mojo has theater counts but anyway, I just feel like the implicit argument here in the idea of "movies aren't made about people anymore" or that people aren't watching these movies has more to do with impact.

 

Then again, I'm not convinced the 2014 Godzilla has any more cultural staying power than the movies you've mentioned either. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

Every Marvel superhero film is essentially character based!

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

2 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

I just feel like the implicit argument here in the idea of "movies aren't made about people anymore" or that people aren't watching these movies has more to do with impact.

 

My argument was simply that the films about characters and people, and films with great roles for actors, are out there for anyone interested in them. One doesn't have to make do with what the most commercially successful films have to offer; that would be like lamenting the quality of beer while insisting on drinking only Budweiser...

 

2 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

Then again, I'm not convinced the 2014 Godzilla has any more cultural staying power than the movies you've mentioned either. 

 

I didn't even know there was a 2014 Godzilla until this evening!

[JazzyNips 189]

13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I watched Breaking Bad (years after everyone else, and I found it good, but not nearly as great as everyone else says) for Bryan Cranston and was most excited to discover Jonathan Banks. I watched Better Call Saul (just after it had completed I think, and I loved it) for Banks and was most excited to discover Rhea Seehorn.

 

I'm looking forward to this a lot. And I wonder who's going to steal the show for me this time.

Every episode is a bottle episode directed/subverted by Rian Johnson. Rhea Seehorn is the lone human actor.

[A24 5,163]

10 hours ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

Every Marvel superhero film is essentially character based!

 

So is The Magnificent Seven (a superhero movie without superpowers) but I wouldn't call that a movie about people either. Watch the movies of the Dardenne brothers. Those are about people.

 

19 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I watched Breaking Bad (years after everyone else, and I found it good, but not nearly as great as everyone else says)

 

Do you also know why you thought it was not great? Did you not connect with it or did you find the acting or the writing disappointing?

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

He probably didn't like all the drugs and mean people in it.

[Glóin the Dark 1,876]

12 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

I think you might be proving his argument more than your own lol

 

25 minutes ago, A24 said:

Watch the movies of the Dardenne brothers. Those are about people.

 

See, I was fine all along!

[Marian Schedenig 11,727]

3 hours ago, A24 said:

23 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I watched Breaking Bad (years after everyone else, and I found it good, but not nearly as great as everyone else says)

 

Do you also know why you thought it was not great? Did you not connect with it or did you find the acting or the writing disappointing?

 

The acting was great, obviously.

 

I'd avoided it for a long time because I figured "terminally ill man turning drug lord to provide for his family" was just too depressing as a concept. That turned out not to be much of a problem (especially beyond the first season), but the whole thing never quite managed to reach me. Partly because I could never really follow Walter White's reasoning (?) or thought processes, and as a result much of what happened seemed rather too random for me. Also, apparently a lot of what didn't fully work for me was supposed to be funny, but I often didn't even realise that - absurd, yes, but mostly more in a dramatic fashion (and I do like dark humour). Also, I expected much more of the famous Rian Johnson fly episode. I didn't think it was half as clever or high concept as (I believe) it wanted to be.

 

Ultimately, I couldn't relate (in whatever way) to any of the main characters (and only to some of the side characters). Contrast that with Better Call Saul, where I could very well relate to all of them and thus despair whenever they made the wrong choice against their own better judgement.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

It's such millennial BS where they think they have to be able to "relate" to the characters in order to enjoy or find merit in a piece of fictional media.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

Walt does what he does because he can, and because he wanted too.

[CatastrophicJones 160]

11 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

The acting was great, obviously.

 

I'd avoided it for a long time because I figured "terminally ill man turning drug lord to provide for his family" was just too depressing as a concept. That turned out not to be much of a problem (especially beyond the first season), but the whole thing never quite managed to reach me. Partly because I could never really follow Walter White's reasoning (?) or thought processes, and as a result much of what happened seemed rather too random for me. Also, apparently a lot of what didn't fully work for me was supposed to be funny, but I often didn't even realise that - absurd, yes, but mostly more in a dramatic fashion (and I do like dark humour). Also, I expected much more of the famous Rian Johnson fly episode. I didn't think it was half as clever or high concept as (I believe) it wanted to be.

 

Ultimately, I couldn't relate (in whatever way) to any of the main characters (and only to some of the side characters). Contrast that with Better Call Saul, where I could very well relate to all of them and thus despair whenever they made the wrong choice against their own better judgement.

 

Actually his reasoning is pretty simple. He's gone through life very passively, he's never explored the more egotistical side of himself. Even when he's offered the medical costs to be covered by his rich friends, he refuses because of his pride. He knows full well he should accept their offer, but he's too damn stubborn and prideful to just accept help, especially when he DID help to build that empire, but he couldn't take the full credit in his eyes because it was never fully HIS.

 

Now he gets into cooking meth, and builds a massive empire of his own. Drug lords know him as the man who makes the perfectly pure crystal meth. He's a hot commodity, he's getting the type of recognition he's never had, from all the wrong kinds of people. He has a storage room full of money, his family will never want for anything ever again. But does he stop? No, he keeps going.

 

I don't think he's meant to be related to. Breaking Bad is a character study of a man who finally realizes who he truly is, at what very well could have been the tail end of his life. He's prideful, spiteful, egotistical and unpredictable, making him extremely dangerous. He survives in the world because he's actually cunning and willing to do whatever it takes to preserve what is his, and his legacy, his own way. He goes from you feeling bad for him to incredibly unlikable yet in a way you still kinda root for the guy. It's a well written show and I hope you give it another chance sometime, but you know, different strokes. It's ok if it's not for you.

 

11 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

It's such millennial BS where they think they have to be able to "relate" to the characters in order to enjoy or find merit in a piece of fictional media.

 

I see your point and agree though I would've phrased this better if you're aiming this at the other commenter. Sometimes a good character study can be fun. I've noticed less people enjoying these as of late sadly. Some people are really missing out!

[Jay 46,346]

Dave Porter will score the show 

 

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2025/07/25/dave-porter-scoring-apple-tvs-pluribus/

[JazzyNips 189]

12 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Ultimately, I couldn't relate (in whatever way) to any of the main characters (and only to some of the side characters). Contrast that with Better Call Saul, where I could very well relate to all of them and thus despair whenever they made the wrong choice against their own better judgement.

I understand what you mean, but I don't see how Better Call Saul was any better in that regard. Walter White's decision making was pretty straightforward most of the time, whereas Jimmy's (and later Kim's) acts of self-sabotage seemed more random and contrived.

 

45 minutes ago, Jay said:

Dave Porter will score the show 

 

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2025/07/25/dave-porter-scoring-apple-tvs-pluribus/

Expected, but great news. Love his previous work.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

1 hour ago, CatastrophicJones said:

I see your point and agree though I would've phrased this better if you're aiming this at the other commenter. Sometimes a good character study can be fun. I've noticed less people enjoying these as of late sadly. Some people are really missing out!

 

*fewer people

[Marian Schedenig 11,727]

15 hours ago, CatastrophicJones said:

Actually his reasoning is pretty simple.

 

14 hours ago, JazzyNips said:

I understand what you mean, but I don't see how Better Call Saul was any better in that regard.

 

I think you're placing more meaning on the word "relatable" than I do.

 

With Walter, the big picture (as described above) was rather clear, but it was individual decisions that (for me) mostly came out of nowhere. As a result, the whole thing usually felt (again, to me) not character driven (although it was clearly a character based show) rather than (too freely) plot driven. Whereas Jimmy's (and Kim's) choices, also when wrong, felt relatable to me in that I could understand how they arrived at them, even when they were against their own best interests. In that sense, I can relate to all kinds of characters, as long as I feel I understand where they're coming from. With Jimmy, I felt as torn apart as the character himself by what he clearly understands to be reasonable or right, and what he feels compelled to do. And thus, the show felt character driven even when the characters were probably often enough bent strongly enough to the plot. With Walter, the whole plot mostly hinged on his choices, and they seemed random more often than not, leaving little to relate to.

 

And as I said, supposedly Breaking Bad has a lot of humour that I simply didn't pick up on (not that I found it unfunny - I simply didn't find much of it funny or even noticed that it supposedly was meant to be funny). Wheras Saul was often hilarious to me even when it was dark. (BB did have it's sporadic fun bits for me too, to be sure)

 

It's not that I found BB bad (no pun intended). It was good - just not generally more than that, to me, with occasional spots of greatness (mostly towards the end). Whereas with Saul, greatness was the baseline, and I loved every second of it.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

If you follow it up with Ozark, you'll soon recognise Breaking Bad had a sense of humour and was often pretty funny.

[Jay 46,346]

Second teaser has a phone number you can call

 

 

 

Also, season 1 is 9 episodes long.  Episodes 1 & 2 arrive on November 7, then episodes 3-9 arrive weekly through December 26th.

 

Most of the the writers for season 1 all wrote on Better Call Saul as well - Vince Gilligan, Gordon Smith, Alison Tatlock, Ariel Levine, and Jenn Carroll. 

 

Then there's also two writers I'm not familiar with - Vera Blasi and Jonny Gomez.  Gomez apparently was a writer's assistant on Saul, while Blasi was as co-writer of Tortilla Soup 25 years ago!

 

The best Saul writers (Peter Gould and Thomas Schnauz) don't seem to be involved

[Jay 46,346]

Comic Con pics

 

 

 

Source: https://ew.com/comic-con-2025-portrait-studio-photos-exclusive-11778912

[Jay 46,346]

New Variety article about the show

 

https://variety.com/2025/tv/columns/rhea-seehorn-cried-vince-gilligan-pluribus-set-first-time-1236487954/

[Anthony 895]

On 28/07/2025 at 9:52 PM, Jay said:

The best Saul writers (Peter Gould and Thomas Schnauz) don't seem to be involved

 

Ah, Thomas Schnauz. That guy was funny as heck. I wonder what those guys are doing, now.

[Jay 46,346]

New teaser!

 

 

[Jay 46,346]

Big new article on the show

 

https://www.polygon.com/pluribus-apple-rhea-seehorn-interview/

 

Seems like Gilligan is really cooking here!

[Marian Schedenig 11,727]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Seems like Gilligan is really cooking here!

 

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