Superman 2: Man of Tomorrow (July 9, 2027)

[Edmilson 12,182]

James Gunn, Nicholas Hoult and David Corensweat just announced the sequel for the new Supes.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJbL_dgGOX/?igsh=MXVpbzhreXZwdmNraA==

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJbRlSDEFv/?igsh=MXdndm9qdHNxdHVnYg==

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJbOP7DnSU/?igsh=ZzB0bm03NW1jeG9k

 

[Mr. Hooper 8,595]

13 hours, and not one reply...

 

I guess nobody's excited for this one. lol

[Jill Sandwich 11,000]

But we already have Superman II at home

[Xander Harris 9,528]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

13 hours, and not one reply...

 

I guess nobody's excited for this one. lol

I don’t think exciting is the word I’d choose to describe it.

[Tallguy 7,260]

Celebrating the 40th anniversary of The Quest for Peace.

[Edmilson 12,182]

This will be the first time we get three Super movies in three consecutive years:

• July 2025: Superman
• June 2026: Supergirl
• July 2027: Man of Tomorrow

In the 80s, this almost happened:

• June 1981: Superman II*;
• June 1983: Superman III;
• July 1984: Supergirl

*according to Wikipedia, it was already playing in Australia since December 1980

[Mr. Hooper 8,595]

17 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Celebrating the 40th anniversary of The Quest for Peace.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

Lex Luthor in a faux Iron Man suit against supes?

 

Pass!

[Edmilson 12,182]

28 minutes ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

Lex Luthor in a faux Iron Man suit against supes?

 

It's from the comics:

 

 

And adapted for the Injustice games:

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

That's no excuse!

 

Its a boring idea. And its been done in BVS!

 

 

[Quintus 6,303]

Gunn's first stab at it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen

[Xander Harris 9,528]

The power suit is the “iconic” Kenner Super Powers doll look. They had to find a way to sell a bald supergenius guy to kids (and even that apparently got clearanced).

 

 

He got it from an alien planet where he lived and used it to fight Superman, which BvS basically ripped off by having Batman in a stiff clumsy robot armor suit moving around like a busted animatronic. Seems right up Gunn’s alley, which is just batshit crazy alien stuff.

[Tallguy 7,260]

Just now, Edmilson said:

It's from the comics:

 

From a long time back. 70's at least. (Looks it up... 1974.)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

5 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Gunn's first stab at it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen

 

I found it mostly utterly forgettable.

Perhaps Gunn should have stayed with Marvel?

 

How's his Suicide Squad sequel?

[Edmilson 12,182]

People on the internet are theorizing Luthor in his battle suit will need to join forces with Supes (after trading a few blows with him, of course) to fight Brainiac.

 

And before anyone complains, they've joined forces before, numerous times:

 

 

[Jill Sandwich 11,000]

1 minute ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

How's his Suicide Squad sequel?

 

Zzzzzzz

[Xander Harris 9,528]

As bad as Marvel has apparently gotten since The Avengers ended, they at least had their run. DC is consistently a mismanaged disaster and unlike Marvel, I’ve seen most of these pieces of crap somehow.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

Hopefully The Russo Brothers will make the MCU better than everything again!

[Quintus 6,303]

41 minutes ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

 

I found it mostly utterly forgettable.

Perhaps Gunn should have stayed with Marvel?

 

How's his Suicide Squad sequel?

 

I watched something with Margot Robbie and John Cena if that was the one and it was pretty entertaining.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

Well one would expect those two to shine.

[Edmilson 12,182]

[Yavar Moradi 4,357]

4 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

13 hours, and not one reply...

I guess nobody's excited for this one. lol

 

I am! Bit skeptical about Suit Luthor though, comics or no. But Gunn really won me over with a lot of stuff I was worried about in Superman 2025 (Krypto, the Justice Gang)... it was stuff that I wasn't expecting to have issues with, that I had issues with.

 

1 hour ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

How's his Suicide Squad sequel?

 

Excellent. Doesn't have the heart of the Guardians of the Galaxy films, but there are a lot of fantastic elements and it all comes together as a weird comic book movie quite well.

 

Yavar

[Alex 3,059]

Does James Gunn ever sleep? The man is constantly churning out content.

[Quintus 6,303]

Peacemaker is still one of the more enjoyable superhero entertainments I've made the effort with in recent memory, it was a well crafted and written little side show with great production values. I obviously tend to prefer the more anarchy leaning superhero stuff these days, which seems to be better suited to James Gunn than Superman.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

Superman done ala Guardians Of The Galaxy doesn't work.

There's nothing anarchic about The Man Of Steel.

 

Next!

[Yavar Moradi 4,357]

29 minutes ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

Superman done ala Guardians Of The Galaxy doesn't work.

There's nothing anarchic about The Man Of Steel.

Next!

 

Seems to me that Superman/Clark Kent lives by his own code just like the Guardians do, and is more concerned about what is right rather than what is technically "lawful". I'm not sure it's as incompatible as you think. And even some vocal critics of Gunn's Superman film admit that he got the character (and casting) of Clark Kent/Superman (and Lois Lane) right.

 

Yavar

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

The Guardians Of The Galaxy are losers though, by their own admissions....

 

Is Superman a loser? Gunn's film tries to paint him as one.

 

Its his schtick....

[Yavar Moradi 4,357]

Just now, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

The Guardians Of The Galaxy are losers though, by their own admissions....

Is Superman a loser? Gunn's film tries to paint him as one.

 

I don't agree with that assessment in the slightest. Gunn puts Superman through a lot, for sure, and he gets beat up (mostly by a clone of himself). But that doesn't make him "a loser". He gets back up and wins.

 

I think Gunn was consciously dealing with the criticism that many had about Superman being too powerful and invincible to the point that he was a boring character. He did not make Superman a "loser" but he returned Superman to being a human character with some human vulnerability that human audience members could relate to. That's not a failing. That's a success.

 

Yavar

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

I wasn't even sure if Superman was the most powerful guy in the film!

 

What a failure!

[Yavar Moradi 4,357]

Why is that a failure? If you're sure that Superman is the most powerful guy and therefore more powerful than all his adversaries, doesn't that make his struggle against antagonists far less interesting/involving/tense? And then when it's ultimately revealed that he's been fighting his genetic twin the whole time (physically, with Lex Luthor's brain behind it) does that not even address your criticism? And he wins out in the end!

 

In Donner's generally-beloved 1978 Superman film, he gets defeated by a buffoonish real estate scheme villain, and the only reason he lives to save the day is because a human woman, the villain's girlfriend, has a change of heart and saves him from the kryptonite! She even kisses him while he's still weakened by the kryptonite, before tossing it away, removing his sexual agency (he's already fallen for Lois Lane). How embarrassing and emasculating to be outsmarted and physically defeated by the main villain, only get saved by a human woman (the villain's lackey no less), and before she even saves him she takes physical advantage of him first!  

 

Yavar

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

Superman: The Movie is a genuine classic that gets its characters and overall atmosphere exactly right!

Perfectly judged by journeyman director Richard Donner.

 

Pretty futile to use it to defend Superman (2025)

[Yavar Moradi 4,357]

It gets its casting of Superman exactly right... but so does Superman 2025!

 

I'm a big fan of Gene Hackman as an actor but his Lex Luthor sucked. The second half of the film absolutely doesn't measure up to the first half, and it's in large part thanks to all the stupid antics with him, Otis, and Tessmacher (can't really blame them for the absolutely horrible ending though).

 

Pretty telling that you couldn't actually address my point and instead had to just pretend that the 1978 film is unassailable, to dismiss any criticism or comparison.

 

Again, I didn't love all of the new film. It was a pretty mixed bag. But so was the original film. People eventually realized that Superman II wasn't great (for decades it was standard to recognize it as an improvement over the first!) and I think in time people will feel comfortable enough to recognize the many faults of the original, as well. Christopher Reeve carried that movie on his back. And John Williams, of course.

 

Yavar

[Jurassic Shark 16,346]

20 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Christopher Reeve carried that movie on his back. And John Williams, of course.

 

Funny, I just came across a little known photo of that. 

 

 

[Xander Harris 9,528]

John Zimmer and Christopher Pratt

[Mr. Hooper 8,595]

20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Funny, I just came across a little known photo of that.
 

Did you forget to put "Christopher Reeve" and "composer John Williams" in the prompt?

[Rachael Foley 10,001]

5 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

I don't agree with that assessment in the slightest. Gunn puts Superman through a lot, for sure, and he gets beat up (mostly by a clone of himself). But that doesn't make him "a loser". He gets back up and wins.

 

I think Gunn was consciously dealing with the criticism that many had about Superman being too powerful and invincible to the point that he was a boring character. He did not make Superman a "loser" but he returned Superman to being a human character with some human vulnerability that human audience members could relate to. That's not a failing. That's a success.

 

Yavar

We have (had) Indiana Jones for that!  

[Edmilson 12,182]

Gunn is teasing Peacemaker season 2 as a prequel to Man of Tomorrow (even though the TV show is TV-MA while the movie will presumably be PG-13).

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOL7ZjrAMAM/?igsh=MTZhcmNwaXBlb2tjag==

 

I guess Gunn knows kids these days™ don't care about superheroes anymore. They are more into anime, video games and TikTok. So he might as well put an essential part of his saga in an HBO show for adults.

[Nick1Ø66 8,079]

8 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

In Donner's generally universally-beloved 1978 Superman film movie

 

Fixed.

 

I mean, how hard is this? "Movie" is right in the title. Get your facts straight.

[Jurassic Shark 16,346]

7 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Did you forget to put "Christopher Reeve" and "composer John Williams" in the prompt?

 

No, those are Christopher Reeve and John Williams according to Grok.

[Tallguy 7,260]

13 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

It gets its casting of Superman exactly right... but so does Superman 2025!

 

I'm a big fan of Gene Hackman as an actor but his Lex Luthor sucked. The second half of the film absolutely doesn't measure up to the first half, and it's in large part thanks to all the stupid antics with him, Otis, and Tessmacher (can't really blame them for the absolutely horrible ending though).

 

Pretty telling that you couldn't actually address my point and instead had to just pretend that the 1978 film is unassailable, to dismiss any criticism or comparison.

 

Again, I didn't love all of the new film. It was a pretty mixed bag. But so was the original film. People eventually realized that Superman II wasn't great (for decades it was standard to recognize it as an improvement over the first!) and I think in time people will feel comfortable enough to recognize the many faults of the original, as well. Christopher Reeve carried that movie on his back. And John Williams, of course.

 

Yavar

 

But the second half that doesn't measure up to the first half is the half with Reeve.

 

I'm mostly messing with you. Mostly. The first half takes itself far more seriously than the second half. 

 

Whatever problems I might have with Hackman's Luthor (and they are not zero) the latest Lex doesn't hold a candle to him. Lex in 1978 was a cartoon. Lex in 2025 said "Hold my beer. It was made with the blood of orphans." Really the only part of Hackman's Luthor I didn't like was when Donner just let the camera run while the cast was goofing around. Also "Lex Luthor as gazillionaire" wasn't invented until 1986.

 

My general rule is that nothing beats Superman. Outsmarts him, puts him in an impossible position, uses his love of people against him etc. But if he's free to act he will kick your butt. And 2025 did this a little bit. Like... Twice. Maybe. But generally the whole movie was Superman getting beaten up over and over and over.

 

Even the two movies with Zod: Superman can at least come to a tie. But even the Kryptonians don't actually beat him.

 

If you don't want to write Superman, don't write Superman. Batman gets beaten up all the time. Go make Batman movies.

 

The best two Superman things ever are the two books by Elliot S! Maggin. And that Lex was AMAAAAAAAZING.

[Sweeping Strings 3,376]

16 hours ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

The Guardians Of The Galaxy are losers though, by their own admissions....

 

Is Superman a loser? Gunn's film tries to paint him as one.

 

Its his schtick....

Yep. It was hard not to think 'Hmm ... REALLY?' when it opened with Supes beaten and bloodied.  

[Quintus 6,303]

The cloned Superman thing was eye-rollingly horrible. These modern writer/directors are so chronically unimaginative that it's difficult to care what is happening, when it is obvious they just pull deus ex bs out of their arses to plug gaps, and even make these inventions feel like banal routine from the main big baddie. It is the pinnacle of laziness, and it is asking far too much of me and evidently a good chunk of the audience to just happily go along with it. Actually no, how about piss off instead.

[Tallguy 7,260]

54 minutes ago, Quintus said:

The cloned Superman thing was eye-rollingly horrible. These modern writer/directors are so chronically unimaginative that it's difficult to care what is happening, when it is obvious they just pull deus ex bs out of their arses to plug gaps, and even make these inventions feel like banal routine from the main big baddie. It is the pinnacle of laziness, and it is asking far too much of me and evidently a good chunk of the audience to just happily go along with it. Actually no, how about piss off instead.

 

It's one of those dilemmas of adaptation. I had no idea. Not my era of comic books. But I know people who figured it out right away and wondered why this was being treated as a mystery.

 

I will always remember watching Batman (1989) with a friend who was not from the USA and hadn't grown up on comic books. The film kind of assumes both of those things. He didn't figure out until late in the film (later than you're supposed to) that Batman and Bruce Wayne were the same guy.

[Edmilson 12,182]

3 hours ago, Tallguy said:

My general rule is that nothing beats Superman. Outsmarts him, puts him in an impossible position, uses his love of people against him etc. But if he's free to act he will kick your butt. And 2025 did this a little bit. Like... Twice. Maybe. But generally the whole movie was Superman getting beaten up over and over and over.

 

Even the two movies with Zod: Superman can at least come to a tie. But even the Kryptonians don't actually beat him.

 

Agreed.

 

I mean, Superman is even kicked in his superballs before falling from the sky and being hit with a shot in the back. How humiliating is that?

 

 

Is this the guy who will fight Darkseid?

 

Gunn's Supes being beaten too often only gives ammo to people who argue that Injustice Superman and Snyder's Superman is better and more badass.

[Quintus 6,303]

Playstation graphics. That whole sequence was straight out of a daft beat 'em up video game cutscene, and if you're the sort of person who can somehow manage to care about what is being depicted to the characters featured, they're much more easily pleased than I am.

[mstrox 7,339]

I thought the new Superman was fine, just okay, which was at least an upgrade from thee other recent iteration.  I’m not sure “more badass” is something I’d want a Superman movie should aspire to at any rate.  My kid liked it so I’m sure we’ll see this one (and Supergirl) in theaters too, and it’ll be a better time for me than, like, a movie based on Monster High dolls or whatever else new streaming junk we throw on.

[Tallguy 7,260]

"I'm Superman!"

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNiODGfu4DJ/

[Edmilson 12,182]

James Gunn’s ‘Man of Tomorrow’ Villain Is Brainiac | Exclusive

 

https://www.thewrap.com/man-of-tomorrow-villain-brainiac-superman-sequel/

[CT-7567 24]

Sam McCurdy (‘Game of Thrones’, ‘Shogun’) was confirmed as the cinematographer of MOT.

Gunn also debunked two popular rumors, one about the movie adapting the arc “Panic in the Sky” from the 90s, and the other about the movie’s name being changed to “Superman: Man of Tomorrow”.

 

And It’s important to note that Gunn didn’t really deny the rumor about Maxima being in the movie, that was started by the site Nexus Point News  https://nexuspointnews.com/exclusive-dc-studios-man-of-tomorrow-will-introduce-maxima/#

[Edmilson 12,182]

My favorite Brainiac story arc:

 

 

I didn't care for the first Supes, but I'd be hyped for the sequel if he named this as one of the inspirations.