Lurker 5 Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 As a matter of policy Paramount does not allow their video products to be reviewed until 10 days before the release. That being said, this is probably the first on-line review of the Indiana Jones box set. It's not very in-depth, but it does answer some questions.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Least interesting because the music feature is poorly done, or least interesting because the reviewer doesn't know a thing about good music?Marian - :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DU Lou 1 Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Least interesting because the music feature is poorly done, or least interesting because the reviewer doesn't know a thing about good music?Marian - :roll:thats exaclty what i would like to know!!! thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I'm guessing it's because the reviewer doesn't give a crap about film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Share Posted September 18, 2003 Or maybe the reviewer is tired of every Laureant Bouzereau documentary having a featurette on John Williams.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DU Lou 1 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Or maybe the reviewer is tired of every Laureant Bouzereau documentary having a featurette on John Williams.NeilIve never seen any of his featurettes... how do you feel about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I think they're great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Share Posted September 18, 2003 After the first 7 or so they get a bit repetetive.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 The only ones I really like were Jaws and E.T. I wish Bouzereau would diversify, instead of the same kind of documentry every time. I love Williams- but he isn't the most interesting speaker. (Which is why I love the Zimmer and Elfman featurettes- thjey still seem excited about being film composers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I find the CE3K documentary brilliant.Marian - who has yet to watch the E.T. one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I like this featuretes. I've never saw one by Elfman, will try to do so, and I sure will never want to see one by Zimmer. Miguel, who doesn't like Hans Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Well, I do like Hans Zimmer- but I think either way, the featurette on Hannibal- which a great gothic score BTW- is one of my favorites. He is still really excited about being a composer, as opposed to Goldsmith or Williams, who seem very blase` in interviews. Elfman's commentaries, IMO, seem to be overflowing with a sense of how much fun he has writing music. While we're on the subject- here's an FSM interview with Zimmer, which IMO is the best interview I've ever read with a film composer. He gives credit to others, and his biggest tribute is to Schindler's List. Just for the record- I love Williams infinatly more than any composer in the history of the world, but my presence here says that, while Zimmer gets bashed very unfairly by most soundtrack fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 You know, I don't have nothing against Zimmer, just don't like his music. And when I say I don't like it, I really mean it. I have a problem with it... The only thing I find ok from him is the kind of melody for woodwinds he did on Driving Miss Daisy or on As good as it gets... but in the end, it sounds all the same. Before someone replys to that, I know is not the same, but to me doens't shows so much inovation from one thing to another. I have The Thin Red Line, wich has some nice music, but after the first 10 or 15 minutes is just the same thing all the time. But that's just me.As for feeling excited about his music, I can't talk about Goldsmith, but I do believe Williams is excited on his own, very quiet, soft spoken manner. He was already like this more than twenty years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 It's fun when they show Williams conducting a lot,like the E.T. feature.But sometimes he's a bit boring in interviews(but it's usually the same standard questions)K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaicin 0 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 I like when the DVDs include featurettes about the music, and I find especially interesting those in "Jaws" and in CEO3K. However, from the point of view of a Williams' fan, the best DVD, and hardest to beat, is "Superman: the Movie", which includes a small commentary about the soundtrack, AS WELL AS THE ISOLATED SOUNDTRACK!Goldsmith has the isolated soundtrack in "Aliens" and in "Patton", as far as I know. Does anyone know if more of his soundtracks are in this way?And I agree with Miguel Andrade. I just don't like Hans Zimmer's scores, though I find them rather functional and effective. But I'd say that his best work is "Lion King". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 20, 2003 Author Share Posted September 20, 2003 "Superman: the Movie", which includes a small commentary about the soundtrack, AS WELL AS THE ISOLATED SOUNDTRACK!So does 1941 and The Witches of Eastwick.Goldsmith has the isolated soundtrack in "Aliens" and in "Patton", as far as I know. Does anyone know if more of his soundtracks are in this way?Goldsmith wrote ALIEN not Aliens.The first release of The Mummy had Goldsmiths complete score isolated.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 I just saw yesterday The Ring. I know there was some talk about it when it was released, so as it came out here in dvd, I rent it. Didn't thought much of the film, but I was impressed with the use of music. Not that I liked it, but as Albaicin just put it, it was quiet functional and effective. So after the film ended, I waited for the music credit, and there it was Mr. Zimmer's name. That was all... The music did his paper withion the film. I wonder how would this sound outside of it. Probably just most Zimmer scores sound, at least to me -- and I'm sorry for that, I really am. As for isolated scores in dvd I know of the following:Williams: The Witches of Eastwick (not every release of it), 1991 (only Zone 1)Goldsmith: Hollow Man (with Goldsmith's comentary), LA ConfidentialGoldenthal: The Spirits WithinI know that are some dvd with isolated scores by Elfman, just don't know which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 The UK version of WoE also has the score isolated i believe.As for Elfman's iso scores.Here are the ones i know ofBeetlejuiceRed Dragon (score and commentary)Mars AttacksPlanet Of The Apes (score and commentary)Stefancos- who ripped Red Dragon this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 Check out http://www.soundtrack.net/dvd/ for a complete list of Iso scores on DVD.-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 BTW Miguel, I also just saw the Ring this week (I hated it), and I liked the use of music in it. I even ripped the end credits, which has some nice strings in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaicin 0 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Thank you Indysolo, I meant "Alien" not "Aliens". And thank you all for the information on isolated scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Although some of Goldsmith's Alien score is edited into Aliens the film.Justin -Who learned this from the liner notes of his new Aliens CD he just got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Although some of Goldsmith's Alien score is edited into Aliens the film.Justin -Who learned this from the liner notes of his new Aliens CD he just got. Also it seems that some of Goldsmith's Capricorn One is used in Aliens. I'm sure Horner didn't even realize it. :roll:Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 What track?Stefancos- ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Listen to "Newt is Taken", it's clearly the main title to Capricorn One. The start of "Futile Escape" also sounds like Capricorn One.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Well, i'm sure Horner only made it better, right Neil....Stefancos- who does not like it when people put words in his mouth...it makes him angry...it makes him wanna take a shovel of beat their heads in....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Well, i'm sure Horner only made it better, right Neil....I don't think either cue wound up in the film. Oh and Steef, I don't put words in your mouth. "I doubt that, but if I would, it would be because Williams would have made that piece sooooo much better then the original composer (who's name is completely unknown to me at this point) could have ever hope to do." That post can be found here. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Í was talking about Williams there, not Horner, so you not only put words in my mouth, you put the WRONG words in my mouth.I'll be awaiting your public apology for trying to make me look like a fool.Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Oh, you don't need Neil for that, Mr. Cosman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 That's the whole point.If I am to look foolish on this MB, then I will be the one to do it, i do not need the un-asked assistance of our Moderator.Stefancos- who is glad that his dear old friend Ross understands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 If I am to look foolish on this MB, then I will be the one to do it, i do not need the un-asked assistance of our Moderator.How foolish....Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Who's the more foolish...the fool or the fool who follows him?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Cue the Psycho music.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Cue:Ren is taking a shower when suddenly a shadow appears on the shower curtain. she is not facing it.Suddenly the curtain swings open! Ren comes about and screams!There is Stefancos in a dress, a long frazzled haired wig and a plastic Taco Bell knife! -Justin's evil deed for the day- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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