DISCLOSURE DAY - Score as heard in the film (no spoilers)

[BB-8 6,429]

A lonely child sitting in a bed is something of a leitmotif in Spielberg’s oeuvre...

[King Mark 4,019]

Unreleased variations of the Memory theme?

[Damien F 2,146]

Just out of the screening. Some random thoughts. I haven't listened to the OST aside from the listen track so can't compare the album vs movie yet.

 

The first third of the movie has about 3 or 4 very short cues, as in about 30 seconds each. 

 

There is a key moment in the middle of the movie featuring Blunt's character where the music really shines. I suspect it is this moment that has mostly led to the score being praised in reviews. This moment is not the "listen" track or the cues in the scoring sessions video.

 

While watching, I was thinking how differently this movie would have been scored had it been made 20 years ago around the time of Minority Report. There are transitional scenes and action that are unscored that absolutely would have had score earlier in Spielberg's career.

 

The reason why the track is called listen... is obvious when you see the movie. 

 

 

[Taikomochi 1,533]

I already prefer this score over Minority Report, so… I’m glad it is the way it is, and not like how Minority Report is (though there are of course some similarities)

[Damien F 2,146]

OK another note, there was a short cool synth heavy cue in the film. It stood out because it was tonally and stylistically different to the rest of the score. It has a heist or caper feel to it. I read the spoiler thread and it is mentioned there too but it appears to be unreleased sadly.

[Once 1,151]

59 minutes ago, Damien F said:

The first third of the movie has about 3 or 4 very short cues, as in about less than 10 seconds each. 

I've only seen it once, but I could've sworn there were several cues quite a bit longer than 10 seconds in the first third of the movie. Looking forward to a rewatch even more now, haha.

[Damien F 2,146]

2 minutes ago, Once said:

I've only seen it once, but I could've sworn there were several cues quite a bit longer than 10 seconds in the first third of the movie. Looking forward to a rewatch even more now, haha.

Yes there are. I didn't say the first third ONLY had very short cues.

[Once 1,151]

1 minute ago, Damien F said:

Yes there are. I didn't say the first third ONLY had very short cues.

Oh, alright, I get you now! Apologies!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,681]

I wonder if these cues are longer but they dialed them out for the most part.

 

 

[Marian Schedenig 11,872]

1 hour ago, Damien F said:

2 hours ago, Once said:

I've only seen it once, but I could've sworn there were several cues quite a bit longer than 10 seconds in the first third of the movie. Looking forward to a rewatch even more now, haha.

Yes there are. I didn't say the first third ONLY had very short cues.

 

To be fair, it did sound like it - I almost commented on it myself. The very first cue in the film is subdued, but quite lengthy. But yes, there were a couple of others that wouldn't end up standalone on a Williams produced album.

[Damien F 2,146]

2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

To be fair, it did sound like it - I almost commented on it myself. The very first cue in the film is subdued, but quite lengthy. But yes, there were a couple of others that wouldn't end up standalone on a Williams produced album.

Yeah, I was paying close attention to the very first cue and there were times when I thought it was about to end but it kept going. 

[Coco314 32]

Saw the movie yesterday, What a privilege to live through discovering in a packed theatre a new and so beautiful score from the maestro. As noted by others, the first part of the score reminded me of “Minority Report”, the second more toward “AI Artificial Intelligence”, and all with a more subdued & poetic approach. While seemingly not reaching the operatic heights of those two (I for one thought the few action bits - especially the train scene - were crying out for a push from the music), the music was definitely a highlight - especially in the latest parts of the movie - and cannot wait to hear the album. 

 

The movie however, definitely never reached any highlight of Spielberg’s career. From story & script to characterization to lensing, I hate to say, as a huge fan of the director, I found it shockingly lacking and uninvolving  

Well, at least we have the music!

[Damien F 2,146]

I think it is a far better directed movie than it is a written movie.

[BB-8 6,429]

1 hour ago, Damien F said:

I think it is a far better directed movie than it is a written movie.

That may explain why I don't understand it.

[King Mark 4,019]

8 hours ago, Taikomochi said:

I already prefer this score over Minority Report, so… I’m glad it is the way it is, and not like how Minority Report is (though there are of course some similarities)

 Minority Report has a depressing tone. Not this .I thought it sounded more like the underscore from the SW Prequels but less thematic.

[Damien F 2,146]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

 

That's a bit of a spoiler, is it not?

[Mr. Hooper 9,371]

2 minutes ago, Damien F said:

That's a bit of a spoiler, is it not?

Apologies to anyone who saw that. I posted in the wrong thread.

 

(There are so many.)

[Damien F 2,146]

1 minute ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Apologies to anyone who saw that. I posted in the wrong thread.

 

(There are so many.)

 

I've already seen the movie, so I'm good :)

[Mr. Hooper 9,371]

Ironic that this should happen to the creator of The Official Disclosure Day Thread Checklist. 

[Damien F 2,146]

8 hours ago, Damien F said:

OK another note, there was a short cool synth heavy cue in the film. It stood out because it was tonally and stylistically different to the rest of the score. It has a heist or caper feel to it. I read the spoiler thread and it is mentioned there too but it appears to be unreleased sadly.

 

The synth I mentioned above might actually be cello pizzicato. It sounded synthy to me but I might be wrong.

[Marian Schedenig 11,872]

Is the little fanfare near the end of kcxe… the same as in the film? I seem to remember it as being more like a miniature, slightly brass-chorale-ish TV news fanfare?

[JohnnyD 1,915]

I just got out of seeing Disclosure Day for the first time in IMAX. Best film of the year so far (next to Project Hail Mary).

 

The story is quite engaging, the performances are very well done (especially Emily Blunt), and the action sequences are very good. Also, Maestro John Williams’ score is incredible, both in how it supports the film throughout and how it shines. Right from the start of the film, there is quite a lot of score throughout the film. Really great sequencing.

Steven Spielberg once again demonstrates why he is the best director of our time.

 

I can’t wait to see it again! I can’t wait to also listen to the soundtrack once I get the digital copy tomorrow.

 

Amazing stuff.

[Bryant Burnette 790]

I liked it, but not as much as I hoped I would.  Maybe it'll grow on me over time, but for now, I'm considering it a mild disappointment.

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11 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said:

I liked it, but not as much as I hoped I would.  Maybe it'll grow on me over time, but for now, I'm considering it a mild disappointment.

 

I think this is mostly where I've landed after 2 days thinking about it. It's not a bad film, and it's filled with excellent ideas, but it felt underwhelming how lots of those cool ideas go underdeveloped and underexplored.

 

The script desperately needed a polish from someone who, with all due respect, isn't named David Koepp.

[Tom 6,984]

Just now, crumbs said:

 

I think this is mostly where I've landed after 2 days of thinking about it. It's not a bad film by any stretch, and has excellent things in it, but on the whole it felt underwhelming and lots of cool ideas go underdeveloped and underexplored.

 

The script desperately needed a polish from someone who, with all respect, isn't named David Koepp.

Are you suggesting a 43rd draft?  

[crumbs 16,098]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

Are you suggesting a 43rd draft?  

 

Or just a pass from a Tom Stoppard type who can unify all the different ideas.

 

As it stands, the film feels a bit too much like a collection of post-it notes Spielberg wrote over the years.

[Jay 46,803]

Spoiler-free thoughts on the score as heard in the film:

 

The score is very effective in the movie, which comes as no surprise.  Many scenes are elevated by having well-written, engaging music accompanying them.  Many scenes late in the movie play with these wonderful, long-lined, classic Williams melodies.  It's just strange these ideas don't exist in the score more like usual, IE introduced smaller then building to big payoffs.  They just kind all show up at the end.

The exception is the Listen theme, which makes a big impact in one of the film's first scenes and forms strong connection with the audience of what it represents.  But then it doesn't go beyond those basic uses until the full concert arrangement that only plays in the end credits.  Huh.  Explains why the theme is not on the album much!

 

One thing that really stood out to me about the score in the movie is that its reactive instead of proactive.  The music will be playing in a scene, then something big or important will happen, there will be a second to react to that, and then the music will change to accompany the new stakes.  The music doesn't really build up to these moments, in other words.  And interesting choice.

 

There's a decent amount of action music, but there should have been more.  Some thrilling sequences that play with no score would have been improved by being underscored, I really think.

 

Overall a good score used well in the film.  No major highlights missing I don't think, and not much music on the album that isn't in the movie at all I don't think.

[Tydirium 1,644]

Does "reprise…" play during the end credits?

[Jay 46,803]

The end credits is:

 

-about a minute of Reprise (the Memory theme section that begins about a minute into the track, might be different takes)

-all or most of Listen

-some of Celestial

-maybe something else?

-a vocal version of the Listen theme similar to the one at the end of In Vivo but different

 

When the movie hits home video and we can rip the end credits clean, it might make a nice ending to the OST album (can move Reprise to open the album as an overture)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,681]

So have you done a breakdown of the full score as it appears in the film yet?

[Ricard 2,715]

I'm sure he'll post it here the minute it's finished.

[Mysterio 127]

Whoever thought the train sequence didn't need music, should STOP working in the entertainment business, even if it's Spielberg. That whole thing felt hollow, unfortunately I don't know anybody who has direct contact with Spielberg otherwise i would slap him (virtually of course)

[BB-8 6,429]

There was JW-cameo instead.

 

[reconstructed]

[backfromthedead 73]

Just got back from seeing the film. Couldn't be happier!  What a triumph by S.S. and J.W.

 

That sendoff was chef's kiss!

 

I stayed away from the threads here to avoid spoilers. Now time to catch up.

[Semprini 7]

The most beautiful scene of the movie is a scene where the "Believe" track is heard (my favorite piece of music from the score). Fantastic stuff. Overall, the music is better than the movie itself. I liked it and it is obviously a very personal film for Spielberg, but it is poorly written by David Koepp.

[Tom 6,984]

6 hours ago, Mysterio said:

Whoever thought the train sequence didn't need music, should STOP working in the entertainment business, even if it's Spielberg. That whole thing felt hollow, unfortunately I don't know anybody who has direct contact with Spielberg otherwise i would slap him (virtually of course)

Very similar to the waterfall scene in IJKCS.

[Jay 46,803]

8 minutes ago, Semprini said:

Overall, the music is better than the movie itself. I liked it and it is obviously a very personal film for Spielberg, but it is poorly written by David Koepp.

 

Well said!

[Alex 3,159]

The train sequence was definitly crying out for an Anderton´s Great Escape type set piece.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,681]

8 hours ago, Ricard said:

I'm sure he'll post it here the minute it's finished.

 

Still nothing!

[Muad'Dib 2,095]

43 minutes ago, Alex said:

The train sequence was definitly crying out for an Anderton´s Great Escape type set piece.

 

Maybe it was recorded but ultimately unused.

 

Or maybe it was agreed from the start -perhaps thinking of reducing JW's workload.

[Ricard 2,715]

1 hour ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

 

Still nothing!

 

He's working on it:

 

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I believe there is approximately 20 minutes of unreleased music in the film, maybe as much as 25 minutes.

 

I would say overall the OST does a pretty good job of covering all of the highlights; The unquestionably essential cues are all there.  If the OST album just included more of the Holly Sedillos vocal versions of the Listen theme, the fun tricking the guards cue, and maybe the rest of the action music, it would have been one of the best OSTs he's put together in a while.  But it's still not bad.

The completely non-chronological order doesn't help any, though that's easily fixed at least.

 

47 minutes ago, Jay said:

I count about 84 minutes of music in the final film, and around 20-25 minutes of it is unreleased.

 

[King Mark 4,019]

I saw the movie today. I liked it a lot and it felt like a 70's/early 80's Spielberg movie. I noticed quite a bit of unreleased action music that sounded very good.

[Bellosh 4,553]

@Bespin Copilot don't be rude 

[Tom 6,984]

I did not like the film (I hate dumb films pretending to be smart), but it has a nostalgic wonder to it, due to various shots and direction, but obviously the score in a significant way.  Let people enjoy the feeling.  

[King Mark 4,019]

I didn't realise everyone is taking a dump on this movie. 

 

But I still liked it better than WotW, Ready Player One , BFG, Minority report or whatever historical dramas Spielberg has done in the past 2 decades . 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,681]

3 hours ago, King Mark said:

I didn't realise everyone is taking a dump on this movie. 

 

JWfan traditionally hates Steven Spielberg. Like it hates Star Wars.

[BB-8 6,429]

15 hours ago, Tom said:

I hate dumb films pretending to be smart

That's why we like smart film composers pretending to be dumb.

 

[Mr. Hooper 9,371]

12 hours ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

 

JWfan traditionally hates Steven Spielberg. Like it hates Star Wars.

How can you hate something that's literally better than everything.

[JazzyNips 205]

I liked the score well enough, but surprisingly I can't be sure that someone like John Powell wouldn't have done a better job. Despite being sparse, when the music is playing it's sometimes a bit too much, in a way that reminds me of the Harry Potter films. I almost chuckled when the villain guy casually strolls up to the warehouse with timpanis pounding away like it's a Star Wars battle scene. Hopefully the OST presentation will grow on me. 

[Taikomochi 1,533]

I think the cartoony quality of Powell’s music would have badly harmed this film. There is a sober quality to Williams’ melodies that I can’t think of other composers working today who could match, and I think a film as inherently silly as this one really needed that to not fall apart into absurdity.