'Sirius' 0 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Probably there was a similar topic on this before, but as I am quite new to film scores (my first soundtrack CD was HP&SS, since then I have about 20 of them,mainly JW), I was wondering...What are the Jerry's , say best 10 scores, that are worth buying?I only have The Mummy which I think is good but a little too repetitive.And buying Star Trek: TMP is on my to-do-list.Thanks,S.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 To get a full range of Goldsmith I would recommend these titles: 1. Patton - Film Score Monthly release or Varese Re-recording 2. The Blue Max 3. The Omen 4. Night Crossing - Intrada 5. Total Recall - Varese Deluxe Edition 6. The Challenge - Prometheus 7. Alien 8. Planet of The Apes - Varese (yes I know most people would say it's a difficult listen but it's worth it) 9. Tora Tora Tora - Film Score Monthly release10. The Sand Pebbles - Varese Cd Club release11. The Final Conflict12. Hoosiers 13. Basic Instinct14. Rudy15. The Illustrated Man16. Star Trek The Motion PictureI know it's more than 10 but these are some of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 What about Gremlins?- Marc, needs to get himself some Goldsmith too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Star Trek: The Motion Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 To get a full range of Goldsmith I would recommend these titles: 1. Patton - Film Score Monthly release or Varese Re-recording 2. The Blue Max 3. The Omen 4. Night Crossing - Intrada 5. Total Recall - Varese Deluxe Edition 6. The Challenge - Prometheus 7. Alien 8. Planet of The Apes - Varese (yes I know most people would say it's a difficult listen but it's worth it) 9. Tora Tora Tora - Film Score Monthly release10. The Sand Pebbles - Varese Cd Club release11. The Final Conflict12. Hoosiers 13. Basic Instinct14. Rudy15. The Illustrated Man16. Star Trek The Motion PictureI know it's more than 10 but these are some of my favorites.I've never heard 'Night Crossing' and 'The Challenge', otherwise I would agree with this list. I would throw in Poltergeist as well, I'm wondering if Mark left it off by mistake. It's my favorite Goldsmith CD and a perfect companion score to E.T.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 What about Gremlins?- Marc, needs to get himself some Goldsmith too.Highly enjoyable, but I don't know that I'd consider it essential Goldsmith.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Here's a link to a short discussion concerning Goldsmith's best scores of the 1980's... which by the way was a very fruitful decade for "Mr. Silver Ponytail."http://www.jwfan.net/index.php?name=PNphpB...t=goldsmith+80s-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 This will help me aswell since i don't own any of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 To get a full range of Goldsmith I would recommend these titles: 1. Patton - Film Score Monthly release or Varese Re-recording 2. The Blue Max 3. The Omen 4. Night Crossing - Intrada 5. Total Recall - Varese Deluxe Edition 6. The Challenge - Prometheus 7. Alien 8. Planet of The Apes - Varese (yes I know most people would say it's a difficult listen but it's worth it) 9. Tora Tora Tora - Film Score Monthly release10. The Sand Pebbles - Varese Cd Club release11. The Final Conflict12. Hoosiers 13. Basic Instinct14. Rudy15. The Illustrated Man16. Star Trek The Motion PictureI know it's more than 10 but these are some of my favorites.I've never heard 'Night Crossing' and 'The Challenge', otherwise I would agree with this list. I would throw in Poltergeist as well, I'm wondering if Mark left it off by mistake. It's my favorite Goldsmith CD and a perfect companion score to E.T.JeffD'oh...yes I forgot Poltergeist. By all means please add it to the list. You know I've got about 100 Goldsmith scores and add those to all of my other scores, well I can't remember what I have.Night Crossing is a Disney produced film based on a true story about a group of East German citizens escaping over the wall in a hot air balloon. It has a powerful main theme and several lovely secondary themes. Intrada released two versions, one of them an expanded CD which is still available but getting harder to find. THE CHALLENGE is a martial arts film (1982) directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Scott Glenn & Toshiro Mifune. Some of the action music sounds like it was used in The Mummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Sum of all Fears was pretty good but yes Patton is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Oh yes! I love the main theme to Patton although there isn't alot of music in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 THE BLUE MAX Rosas (La Oreja de Van Gogh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Sirius' 0 Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thank's for the help, guys! I only remember seeing Alien, Total Recall, Planet of the Apes, Rambo and Star Trek.I never heard of Patton or Blue Max. It seems I'll have to sit down and watch quite a few of these older movies as well, if I can get my hands on them.Could you write down a few words about these movies as well?(Yes I know there's imdb but I' woul like your opinions.)Looks like Mr. Williams's movies are much more well-known, at least to me.S.B. Sabrina (John Williams)I just love the score and the film too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Planet of the Apes, Alien, Patton, Tora Tora Tora, Total Recall, Star Trek 1,5,8 are all essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I say you should check out Rambo: First Blood Part II. That's a wicked awesome score. It totally beefs up the quality of the movie. If anyone else besides Jerry had done it (realistically-speaking), then it wouldn't have been as good. Jerry's timing for which mood to hit is perfect. It's right up there with Total Recall and Air Force One for best action score (or only action score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Planet of the Apes, Alien, Patton, Tora Tora Tora, Total Recall, Star Trek 1,5,8 are all essentials. You forgot The Blue Max Goldsmith The Blue Max SuiteLondon Symphony OrchestraJerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 No I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Well, that explains a great many things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Yes, it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 No wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 "Jerry Goldsmith titles for the John Williams fan":1-Poltergeist2-The Final Conflict3-Star Trek The Motion Picture4-The Secret of Nihm5-Twilight Zone,The Movie6-Explorers7-Legend8-Supergirl9-King Solomon's mines10-Logan's RunPlanet of the Apes is not essential,unless you enjoy the noise of sticks hitting on salad bowls.Sure it's original,but hardly listenable musicK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Me: "Supergirl? Supergirl?"KM: "It's just a little bitty place."Me: "Supergirl?"KM: "Miss Tessmacher's got her own..."Me: "Supergirl?"KM: "Okay! Okay! I'll just wipe it off here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Ignore him, he has a few faulty and miswired neurons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Ah, that explains a whole bunch of other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Me: "Supergirl? Supergirl?"KM: "It's just a little bitty place."Me: "Supergirl?"KM: "Miss Tessmacher's got her own..."Me: "Supergirl?"KM: "Okay! Okay! I'll just wipe it off here..."Ever notice the name of Miss Teschmacher's place? It's at the top of the map and called "Teschmacher Peaks", and the illustration is two large snow capped mountains. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Ignore him, he has a few faulty and miswired neurons. Me: "Oh yeah? Well you're a...you're a miswired moron..."Morn: "Are you talking?"Me: "Shut up, Richard!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Night Crossing is a Disney produced film based on a true story about a group of East German citizens escaping over the wall in a hot air balloon. It has a powerful main theme and several lovely secondary themes. Intrada released two versions, one of them an expanded CD which is still available but getting harder to find.Intrada (who produced it) still have it in stock I think. It's one of his best scores. And the source for the non-Prokofiev stuff in Horner's Battle in the Mutara Nebula.Marian - The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover (Michael Nyman) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 What are the Jerry's , say best 10 scores, that are worth buying?Since you're already planning on buying Star Trek - The Motion Picture (my favorite score by Goldsmith), I'll just recommend a few others, in no particular order.PoltergeistTotal RecallThe Blue MaxThe Secret of NIMHOutlandCapricorn OneThe OmenComaDamien: Omen IIThe Final ConflictSupergirlThe Boys from BrazilThe SwarmLegendStar Trek: NemesisAir Force OneIt's been my experience that you can hardly go wrong with any score by Goldsmith. He is very consistent with the quality of his music. That's probably why so many of us love his music so much.Neil - who doesn't like the score to Logan's Run (and that's about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2OProof 2 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Nobody has mentioned Under Fire. It is one of my all time favorite Goldsmith scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 It's been my experience that you can hardly go wrong with any score by Goldsmith. He is very consistent with the quality of his music. That's probably why so many of us love his music so much. It's been my experience than you can often go wrong with Goldsmith, and I personaly think the comparisons between him and Williams are ridicules. I think Williams is number one, Goldsmith is two and so on. I love him- but I think he's overrated, and it really pisses me off how Filmtracks and FSM are so biased towards him. Here are my random thoughts about his scores, and this is probably the most flame inducing post I've ever written. Out of the ones I own, I think The Final Conflict and Air Force One (complete only, the original sucks) make for the best albums. The Omen is great, but too much of the same thing. Twighlight Zone is great. I think Poltergeist, both movie and score, are terribly unoriginal. I can understand how everyone loves Total Recall, but I find too in tune with the movie, which I think was wrong and didn't capture the spirit of Dick. Nemesis has nothing interesting in it- I find it to be Goldsmith Hornering himself. Papilon is very good. Patton is classic, and rightefully so- IMO Goldsmith's best. Supergirl I think is a tiny bit better than the sucky movie- I don't understand what everyone sees in the main theme. First Blood has nothing interesting in it, but from what I've heard of it, Pt. 2 is great. First Contact is great. Planet of The Apes is great in the movie, but makes for a terrible listen on the CD. Rudy is a very nice listen, but I don't think it's any different than the Randy Newman sports scores. Gremlins is very fun, but I love even more all the great self parody he does in The New Batch. Sum of All Fears is very good, one of the most 'Goldsmith' scoes in a while. L.A. Confidential is a great score, with two absolutely fantastic tracks. I can't stand First Knight, and I think the fanfare is one of the most flimsy and pathetic fanfares I've ever heard. Agony and Ecstasy is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Agony and Ecstasy is very good. It's 90% Alex North though.... Yes, they both worked on it.Planet of The Apes is great in the movie, but makes for a terrible listen on the CD. Serial isn't for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 The prologue music from TA&TE is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Yes but generally cheesey and inferior emotionally to the rest of the score that is North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I really know slim to nill of North. I really must start going more to the older stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Only things by North I have is the song "Unchained Melody" performed by the, umm Smothers Brothers is it?LOLj/k I have the score for Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf conducted by Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 6 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 I have a far-too-limited Goldsmith collection considering how much I love his music but here's a list of the best.In no particular order: 1. The Omen Trilogy (I consider those a single body. The Final Conflict is the best)2. Legend3. Total Recall4. Runaway5. Lionheart6. Star Trek: Nemesis 7. Planet of the Apes8. Patton9. Star Trek: Insurrection10. Poltergeist II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 How can it be possible nobody mentioned First Knight!? And they call themselves Goldsmith fans... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Oh! Forgive me for not mentioning The 13th Warrior, either! Or Runaway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 I forgot 4 more.Medicine ManUnder Fire The Secret Of NimhFirst Blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Yes but generally cheesey and inferior emotionally to the rest of the score that is North. When I first heard that prologue piece it reminded me a lot of E.T..I consider Final Conflict to be for Goldsmith what The Fury is for Williams. Marian - who will soon hear the A&A prologue live in concert. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Korngold; Morgan/Stromberg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 I just started listening to The Final Conflict a couple of weeks ago (I just got it), and was immediatley grabbed. The final track (The Final Conflict) is so great, has a genuine epic, religous feeling of cleansing, of evil being banished from the world. Too bad it served such a sub standard movie (and less then serious series). I personaly like the Main theme more than Ave Satani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 When I first heard that prologue piece it reminded me a lot of E.T.. Bah, it's not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Three of my favourite tracks are The Second Coming, The Monastery (Bruckner-like) and The Hunt...I'd love to hear those in concert.Marian - who doubts that will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I'm all about the complete score for Star Trek Nemesis, and Air Force One.... Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I have to say, I love that little clarinet solo in the middle of "The Enterprise" from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I have to say, I love that little clarinet solo in the middle of "The Enterprise" from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Very nice.He must have liked it too, since it's one of the few things to be in both the original alternate version and the final piece heard in the film.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 OHHHHHHH!!!!I somehow need to get this complete score with alternates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Do you have anything to trade with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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