QMM 4 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Not including films about composers or things related to such.Please include your choice(s) with what piece(s) were in the film and perhaps why you chose itMe:- Master and Commander-Various classical pieces played by Aubrey and Maturin(so much in fact that before the actual movie, there were 2 volumes released on the pieces used in the books)-X2-Dies Irae-Minority Report BachJesu, Joy of Man's Desiring from Cantata No.147 HaydnString Quartet in C, Op.64 No.1, 3rd movt. SchubertSymphony No.8 "Unfinished", 1st movt. TchaikovskySymphony No.6 "Pathétique", 3rd movt. All recent movies, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 "Danse Boheme" from Bizet's Carmen in There's Something About Mary. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Not including films about composers or things related to such.Damn i was going to put Fantasia 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 Yeah, that'd be too easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 "Nessun Dorma", Sum of All Fears. The Berlioz piece at the beginning of First Contact."Thomas Tallis Fantasia" in Always (if that counts, since it was written in, not used wholly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Classical music should stay out of movies otherwise it's meaning is changed from what the composer intended, leave films to film composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 Fine, but still the thread remains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 If it wasn't for Bugs Bunny, I wouldn't listen to classical music.Thanks Looney Tunes!!!I don't have anything against classical music in films, as long as it's not abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Many 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 The film version of Death in Venice makes excellent use of the Adagio from Mahler's 5th Symphony.Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I love the little music box that plays Debussy's "Claire de Lune" in Seven Years in Tibet.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Nessun Dorma in The Sum of All Fears The piece used when Anderton is scrubbing the images and finds himself in them in Minority Report I don't know if this counts, as the movie is about music, but the William Tell Overture in Clockwork Orange Beethoven's 9th in Die Hard, when they open the vault In The Hall of The Mountain King in Fritz Lang's M Goldberg Variations in Silence of The Lambs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Mozart's "Adagio" from "Concerto for Clarinet and Orchestra" in "Out of Africa". I like the movie, love the score, love the Mozart's work and this actual classical piece meshes seamlessly with Barry's music.There would be so many more to mention on and on, of course. Goldberg Variations in Silence of The LambsYes, this is the haunting one and fits perfectly in! Seems the actual score composer wasn't able to pull off anything to go so well with that slaughter scene. I was never able to work out which variation was used and I'm sure only one was used. You know which one, Morlock? Help me solve the enigma! Roman.-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Replacing Alex North's score with classical music was not a very nice thing to do but it worked so well that I forgive Kubrick. From 2001: A space Odyssey, here are:Also Sprach Zarathustra - Richard StraussBlue Danube [Excerpt] - Richard StraussGayane Ballet Suite (Adagio) - Aram Khachaturian----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Yes, well I don't get your point, North's music either matches or surpasses those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 The point is that, once the music was put against the images, those famous classical pieces got a whole new dimension. That resulted in an cinematic effect that was bigger then it could ever be with just another soundtrack. BTW, North knew he had to share the soundtrack with existing classical music. I think North's work is a major achievement, one of my favorite soundtracks, but he never composed music for the whole film because Kubrick told him he was definitely planning on using other music as well. What North didn't know was that Stanley was going to replace every single note. It was the studio that insisted on using a film composer. Kubrick had other plans from the start. ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 That resulted in an cinematic effect that was bigger then it could ever be with just another soundtrack.Umm, I dunno, what if we put Holst in place of Star Wars main titles?The point is that, once the music was put against the images, those famous classical pieces got a whole new dimension.Yes, but they are their own works, and it makes much more sense to make something new to fit the new movie. Now when everyone listens to those Strauss pieces they are going to be thinking of it as a film score, I don't think that's what Strauss wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 That resulted in an cinematic effect that was bigger then it could ever be with just another soundtrack.Umm, I dunno, what if we put Holst in place of Star Wars main titles?Then everyone would say, "Hey, Lucas is copying Kubricks idea! Away with him!"----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 But then nobody would have said, wow Williams. Note that Cleopatra managed to get up to number 2 on the charts for albums for 3 weeks when it was released and stayed on the list for 6 months. There was a market for his jazz-influenced style, it sounded contemporary and pop like to audiences of the day I suppose a bit like Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Of course, Barber's Adagio for Strings in the Elephant Man (1980) made a very strong impression.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 An then there is the classical medley used in the finale of Soylent Green with various works by Tchaikovsky, Beethoven and Grieg. Very beautiful stuff, indeed.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 The use of Bach's St Matthew's Passion in THX 1138 (1971) end scene is another fine example, how after 2001, sci-fi films apparently couldn't do without some classical music.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I'm quite fond of the use of "Claire de Lune" at the end of the remake to Ocean's 11. Nice way to end a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 X-Men 2 - Dies Irae from Mozart's Requiem in D Minor, K.626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Yes, well I don't get your point, North's music either matches or surpasses those. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Barber's Adagio for strings in the Seinfeld episode, heh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 2001 was probably the best use of classical in any movie. OF course it was all classical but the choices themselves for each scene worked in an ingenious way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I think Amadeus used it just as well, and I think the music was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Well in all fairness Amedeus is a movie ABOUT music. So thats a little bit unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Barber's Adagio for strings in the Seinfeld episode, heh heh I clearly missed that episode.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Which Seinfeld was that? What was the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Frank Costanza was telling a story from Vietnam, he was the cook, and he tried to save some bad meat, when the soldiers ate what he made, everyone got sick, that scene where you see the soldiers vomiting, and going to the letrines is played in slow motion with Barber's Adagio playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hmmmmmm I forget this episode. Sounds like a good one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 HaHaHAHAHA, is Seinfeld already on DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 It will be soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 He sure waited long enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 When you've got million upon millions of dollars there is never a rush dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 Whenever you see Magneto in X2 he's always listening to his Mozart in the background and reading The Once and Future King which is a nice touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 The BEST would be Beethoven's 9th in Die Hard. Simply brilliant. Next up, very close second, is Dies Irae from X2. Very exciting. While this isn't exactly fitting, the use of Star Wars in Ferris Beuller's day off is one of the most hilarious damn moments in film history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I disagree.Well watch your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peio 0 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Classical music should stay out of movies otherwise it's meaning is changed from what the composer intended, leave films to film composers. ::except for source music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman20 0 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Classical music should stay out of movies otherwise it's meaning is changed from what the composer intended, leave films to film composers.What if someone were to use the music from an opera? Isn't that similar since they both were used to highlight and emphasize the emotion on stage? Wouldn't you then say it would be appropriate? Especially if the plot in the film were to have striking similarities to that of the opera?Just wondering what your take on this is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 HaHaHAHAHA, is Seinfeld already on DVD?It's a bit more complicated. Jerry Seinfeld is having a bad time convicing the rest of the cast (Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Jason Alexander and Michael Richards) to essentially give up their fees from the DVD profits. This isn't the first time he's kept his profile high in detriment of his co-stars', so they are aware now. Which means, we'll just have to wait to see who gives up first.Also, on the thread title, I would have to go with Swan Lake, used as Bela's theme in Ed Wood, by Howard Shore. Brilliant.Offenbach also had a nice wink in Moulin Rogue, but that's plain anecdotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Not including films about composers or things related to such.Damn i was going to put Fantasia 2000.Exactly. They Rhapsody in Blue segment is perfection, seamless match of audio and images.It is quite magical when you have some sound you attach to a bunch of images and the result isn't sound plus images, but a completely different reality. Not easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Also, on the thread title, I would have to go with Swan Lake, used as Bela's theme in Ed Wood, by Howard Shore. Brilliant. I loved it too- but that was not Shore's doing. The only music heard in the original Lugosi Dracula was Swan Lake. Untill Philip Glass' wrote a score for it a few years back (He wrote a great score- would be a classic if it were the original movie score) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 What if someone were to use the music from an opera? Isn't that similar since they both were used to highlight and emphasize the emotion on stage? Wouldn't you then say it would be appropriate? Especially if the plot in the film were to have striking similarities to that of the opera? Just wondering what your take on this is... Umm, maybe if it's a movie version of the opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaicin 0 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I think that both Alexcremers and Hector J. Guzman have missed the best use of Barber's Adagio in a film. In fact the name of this thread is "Best use(s) of classical pieces in Movies".The best use of Barber's Adagio for Strings is in Oliver Stone's "PLATOON".Of course "Death in Venice" and "2001: A Space Odyssey" are magnificent examples . But I think that everybody has missed some great ones:John Boorman's "EXCALIBUR" makes use of:- Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" from "Carmina Burana"- Wagner's Prelude for "Tristan und Isolde"- and I am not quite sure if it also makes use of the Prelude for "Lohengrin" or "Parsifal", both from WagnerFrancis Ford Coppola's "APOCALYPSE NOW"- Wagner's "Walkürenritt" form "Die Walküre"Francis Ford Coppola's "THE GODFATHER III"- Pietro Mascagni's "Cavaleria Rusticana"(the use of the famous "Intermezzo" to accompany Michael Corleone's death is superb)Woody Allen's "MANHATTAN"- George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue"Martin Scorsese's "CASINO"- Bach's "St Mathew Passion" (this one is a favourite, isn't it?)Sergio Leone's "ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA"- Rossini's "La gazza ladra"Well, I cannot think of any more at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Francis Ford Coppola's "THE GODFATHER III"- Pietro Mascagni's "Cavaleria Rusticana"(the use of the famous "Intermezzo" to accompany Michael Corleone's death is superb) I think the bestuse of Cavaleria Rusticana in a film is in Raging Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet" in Star Trek III. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 LOLI think that both Alexcremers and Hector J. Guzman have missed the best use of Barber's Adagio in a film. In fact the name of this thread is "Best use(s) of classical pieces in Movies".The best use of Barber's Adagio for Strings is in Oliver Stone's "PLATOON".After I heard this music on Seinfeld, I later found out it was used in Platoon. Then, I've heard it other times after now knowing the piece's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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