Pelzter 0 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I don't exacly know why I think this... it just seems that when score enthusiasts talk about star wars, it's always the main title, og Vader's Theme, or maybe Across the Stars - but it never seems to be the gorgeus, delicate Luke & Leia...--Pelzter, who thinks ROTJ is the best SW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 It's a very good piece, less outwardly romantic then Han Solo & the Princess, but warmer, more comforting.The version on the OST always seemed a bit to slow for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Luke & Leia is beautiful. It really is. But there's a lot of other great stuff from the OT, so I can imagine it might be overlooked. I don't think it's used as often in the score itself as the Main Title or Vader's Theme either. But it's a really beautiful, sweeping theme.- Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I love this theme. It may not be as popular as other themes, but it's as good as just about any of the other major themes and it's probably the best thing to come out of Return of the Jedi.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Indeed. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I prefer Leia's Theme over Luke and Leia. That counterpoint in the horns in the reprise, awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 It a great theme, nice harmony. Overlooked? I dunno, how is any part of star wars overlooked. Perhaps it's not as famious as some of the other themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I always thought it was kinda bland, but lately, I've been listening to Jedi a lot and it's pretty damn nice. Great piece of music. Very underused, though, BARELY used in the movie, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Yeah, but it's like a set piece romance cue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplicon 53 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 When Jedi came out, this was my favorite new theme. I remember playing that track, uh...."band" (LP terminology ) a lot. I remember "interpreting" the theme as describing the Skywalker heritage, how Luke's relationship to Leia had matured with the knowledge of their relationship, and how the two were essentially having to fight their father, a former Jedi. I also found it to be very much like an adagio, reflective version of Luke's theme (aka the Star Wars theme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I just hope that it will not be overlook and that we will hear this theme in E III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 All the new themes in Jedi are underused and only appear as underscore for dialogue scenes,not big musical moments,well except the Emperor's themeK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Since until just the other day, i even look over that theme from time to time. thanks to the piano album NO longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 It's a very nice theme, but I think the concert version drags a bit.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I also really enjoy this theme. Its one of John's best actually. It is used kind of sparingly in ROTJ so it doesn't stand out as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 This may very well be my favourite John Williams theme, so it certainly isn't overlooked in my eyes! It's achingly beautiful, tender, considerate, heartfelt and more than a little bit tragic. Since it doesn't feature too often in the actual film, whenever I listen to it I always think of that parting scene between Luke and Leia in the Ewok village at night (itself beautifully scored too). I've always loved this scene and consider it one of the five or so 'emotional bedrock' scenes of the entire original trilogy. So for me "Luke and Leia" is not just about a sibling relationship but as Eplicon says, the 'Skywalker heritage', especially the quieter, more emotional and more intimate side to it. There are other themes that evoke Jedi heroism, the power of the Force and the corruption of a once proud knight. But no other theme captures the upsetting domestic circumstances of Luke and Leia's birth and upbringing like this one - their separation, the absence of a father and the distance of a fey mother - "very beautiful ... gentle and kind - but sad."CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 It's a heartbreaking theme that speaks of thwarted incestuousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I honestly cannot even here it in my head. I guess it must not be too memorable.Guess I will have to give it a listenJoe, chuckling thanks to Alans comment, wondering if Leia ever asked Luke, is that your light saber, or are you just happy to see me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 ha ha. . .great one alan...joe - hear. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Back in 83, that was the one cue on the LP that got the most play. I found it to be a very tender theme for a brother and sister. The lack of recognition may be due to the fact it's from the weakest film of the original trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 It's a heartbreaking theme that speaks of thwarted incestuousness.HEH HEH HEH! LOL Yeah tragically Luke loses his lady. OH well ........ maybe he can get some other kind of scandalous sexual escapades going on.Like maybe hooking up with some "jail bait" perhaps? 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Overlooked by who?Because the L&L theme is completely underused in ROTJ, yet it has been recorded by Williams several times and released on BPO albums. So it doesn't seem that Williams has overlooked L&L despite its minimal role in the ROTJ score. But then there is the "Han and Leia" theme which is used to great effect in ESB and loved by many Williams/Star Wars fans yet Williams has never recorded it outside of the films. For some reason, Williams has all but forgotten H&L. He even said in an interview when Ep2 came out how "Across The Stars" is the saga's first big love theme, or something to that effect. How could he forget "Han Solo and The Princess"?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I think he meant it is overlooked by many film score fans since it isn't mentioned nearly as prominantly as many other themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 i concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 And I said nothing from Star Wars can really be said to be overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I love the theme. A real classic feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 And I said nothing from Star Wars can really be said to be overlooked. Thats what I mean, nothing from the Star Wars scores is overlooked here by us Williams fans. But lesser known themes like L&L are undeservedly overlooked by Williams and orchestras around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I'll say it again,I like the cue "Brother and Sister" much much better than the concert version of Luke and Leia.It's one of the highlights of the scoreK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Absolutely, King Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I've forgotten. Is the version performed over the end credits significantly different from the concert version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 It's a heartbreaking theme that speaks of thwarted incestuousness. HEH HEH HEH!Great. My fairly serious attempt to set a mournful tone, as befits this fine piece of music, is thoroughly and immediately undermined by some crass and inappropriate attempt at humour. I can dig it LOL.CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I've forgotten. Is the version performed over the end credits significantly different from the concert version?nope.The ROTJ End Credits are more or less identical to the concert version, unlike TESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 The intro into the theme is different.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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