pixie_twinkle 44 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Ok, now that many of us have seen this film (at least once!) I feel it's time for this rather obvious poll. Remember this poll is based on your fave film (not just the soundtrack, although that may well play an important part in your answer).If you haven't seen all three please wait until you have before voting. Er..obviously...Let's see how Cuaron fares against Columbus. I have a suspicion I already know, but I'd love to see what you all think. All comments and reasons welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 It's too early for me to say. I'd have to see film 3 some more, before I can decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I need to see film 3 before i can answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Because there's no option "Prisoner of Azkaban, BY FAR", I just went with POA. I first watched it last Thursday, immediately after seeing the first two again on DVD, and liked it more than I'd ever enjoyed the others. I watched it again on Sunday, and still enjoyed it as much. So there's no doubt about it. Marian - who also hasn't listened to any other CD since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Chamber of Secrets definitely it was faithful to the book and didn't leave out any of my favorite parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 CoS is pretty weak BECAUSE it's to faithfull to the book.I can't imagine POA being worse, shrunken heads or no shrunken heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I concur with Stefan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Sorcerer's Stone is still my favorite because it maintains that sense of wonder and amazement for the entire film. John Williams' score certainly helped.Now it is starting to seem familiar. POA was still a good film, but the story has become less "Harry Potter in school" and become "Harry Potter, super sleuth." Do the kids do any learning anymore, or do they just go around the campus solving mysteries?In Sorcerer's Stone you get how fantastic it is to be a wizard or witch, as well as try to uncover the mystery ofHarry's past. And the Quidditch match and the chess game are still the greatest HP sequences put on film.Jeff -- who will watch POA again but doubts his opinion will change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Sorcerer's Stone is still my favorite because it maintains that sense of wonder and amazement for the entire film. John Williams' score certainly helped.Neil - who concurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I agree with Trumpeteer, the "sense of wonder" aspect in HP:PS was the best part of that film, more interesting then the scooby doo mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Prizoner of Azcaban.In fact I think it the best "Williams Scored Blockbuster" since Temple of Doom in terms of overall package(Film and Score).It's been a while since a Williams score has not been trapped in a so-so film(PS was nice to look at and amusing at best,and Jurassic Park is when Spielberg's bluckbuster style started to go downhill)K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 And the Quidditch match and the chess game are still the greatest HP sequences put on film.Until Goblet of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I ddin't think the Chess Match was that great. The only reason I like that scene is for the fantastic build up at the end, a very formulatic one, but one of my favorite build ups ever in a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Prisoner of Azkaban.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 44 Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 Sorcerer's Stone is still my favorite because it maintains that sense of wonder and amazement for the entire film. John Williams' score certainly helped.Neil - who concurs I know what you mean. I just find POA so satisfying as a film that it is head and shoulders over the other two however. When I watch the first two I can almost hear the pages of the book turning. I can also clearly sense when chapters end, which is slightly tiresome in a film. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the first two films, it's just that POA is so much more stylish. I love that it doesn't feel so much like an adaptation, but rather an exciting new re-telling. Now that I've seen it (twice!) I am disappointed that Cuaron won't be directing book 4. Now who could direct book 5? Tim Burton? Terry Gilliam? Jean Pierre Jeunet? I have every faith that Gilliam would make a spectacular movie. I'm just not sure it would fit with the canon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 POA - style, imagination. .the other two are just the books on film. tiresome. BUT wonderful all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 They're pretty close IMO but after considering it I gotta go with POA. It IMO moved the overally Potter storyline along nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Terry Gilliam?A Monty Python style animated Harry Potter movie! Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Gilliam was Rowling's favorite to direct film 1, but the studio opted for Columbus, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 292 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 ***spoilers ahead*** [just in case]I've seen Azkaban twice and there are just too many loose ends that the film leaves dangling... Who are Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs?How did Lupin know how to work the Marauders Map?How did Sirius even know about the Marauders Map (he says in the movie, "the map never lies!")?Why did Harry's patronus take the shape of a stag?Was James Potter an Animagus too?How and when did Sirius find out Pettigrew was Scabbers? (They do show the newspaper article of Rons family in Egypt, but don't mention that Sirius saw it. Also, it is too easily overlooked that Scabbers was even in the photo at all to a first-time viewer who is unfamiliar with the books)How did Sirius know about the Whomping Willow/Shrieking Shack?Why did Snape arrive at the Shrieking Shack when he did?And thats not even mentioning the total desertion of the Sirius/Crookshanks/Scabbers connection. These unanswered questions amount to gaping plotholes to those who have not read the books. This isn't complaining about minor sub-plots or some favorite parts of the book being left out. These are major plot points and character traits.The movie would be my favorite of the three if the Shrieking Shack scene and Lupins office scene at the end were longer and answered all of these questions. There is no excuse for these scenes being so short. I voted for Chamber of Secrets.Jeff - who didn't know the Whomping Willow could be that easily overcome with a simple Immobulus charm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 85 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Who are Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs?They don't explain that!? I going to see the movie this evening, I'm getting curious now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Apparently, they're saving explanations about the Marauders and the Marauders' Map for the next film.Or so I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 When I watch the first two I can almost hear the pages of the book turning. I can also clearly sense when chapters end, which is slightly tiresome in a film. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the first two films, it's just that POA is so much more stylish. I love that it doesn't feel so much like an adaptation, but rather an exciting new re-telling.Hmmm. I found that the fade-ins and fade-outs in POA felt more like chapter endings than anything in PS and CoS. Though they certainly were new and different and stylishly done, it made it too obvious in POA that we were moving on to a new part of the story.Jeff -- who doesn't really want to see CoS again but will soon for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I thought POA was the most entertaining of the 3. I like the dark atmosphere of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I found that the fade-ins and fade-outs in POA felt more like chapter endings than anything in PS and CoS.I thought they were layer changes. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 292 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Apparently, they're saving explanations about the Marauders and the Marauders' Map for the next film.Like they don't have enough to do in GoF!Like I said, there is no excuse why those plot points had to be dropped. I think 5-10 extra minutes of screen time during the Shrieking Shack and Lupins office would suffice. I could listen to Thewlis' Lupin for hours, he really nailed professor Lupin. I read that Thewlis played Lupin as though he were in love with Lily, brilliant. His scenes were the best. I also loved the victrola during the boggart scene, that was a really nice touch.Jeff - who finds that gigantic jack-in-the-box during the boggart scene a little scarier than what it was before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I agree Jeff, that there is no reason they couldn't have cleared some important things up in just a few minutes. I even read that they filmed Lupin explaining some of this to Harry in that last scene but cut it out (this is in no way confirmed). Even so, I feel that this film works best as a stand-alone movie, and is by far the most engaging and powerful.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Now it is starting to seem familiar. POA was still a good film, but the story has become less "Harry Potter in school" and become "Harry Potter, super sleuth." Do the kids do any learning anymore, or do they just go around the campus solving mysteries?I agree. At least in the books, they still went to class.And the Quidditch match and the chess game are still the greatest HP sequences put on film.I agree with the chess game, but not the first Quidditch match. I didn't like the CGI kids very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I think the first bit of the film had a lot of class scenes. DADA, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination... However, I sorely missed a good Potions scene. - Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I prefer THE IPCRESS FILES myself which see's Harry progressing to those ultra-cool black spectacles. Trendy!Hitch, who believes that the Harry Potter movies are prequels to the Harry Palmer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 RON, YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO CONJURE THE BLOODY DOORS OFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I think the first bit of the film had a lot of class scenes. DADA, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination... However, I sorely missed a good Potions scene. Â - MarcYes, indeed. I love the Potions classes... and I would have loved to see the DADA final (although it wasn't a plot point, I guess) too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 RON, YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO CONJURE THE BLOODY DOORS OFF!"Allll rigghttt there, 'arry. Such a swee 'eart!"Hitch, getting back to his Cockney routine again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Unfortunetly your cockney is identical to your Scottish accent.Stefancos- who could hear no difference between Mr. Saville's imitations of Alfred Hitchcock and Sean Connery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Unfortunetly your cockney is identical to your Scottish accent.Stefancos- who could hear no difference between Mr. Saville's imitations of Alfred Hitchcock and Sean Connery..."We sshhhail into hhissstory" LOL "Good evveeening" LOL I think they are both different accents. Mother thinks so!Hitch, who has bought a new Nimbus 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 "We sshhhail into hhissstory" Â LOL From Hitchcocks trailer for Topaz, right?"Good evveeening" Â LOL Isn't it, "Good evening, Moneypenny."I think they are both different accents. Â Mother thinks so!Mothers in the fruitcellar, watching the Birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is the best of these 3 films by a nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 IYHO.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 IYHO.Why would he state someone else's opinion?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I read that Thewlis played Lupin as though he were in love with Lily, brilliant.I wonder if that's one of those plot points from Books 6 and 7 that Cuarón "picked up on" according to J.K. Rowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I believe it's something Steve Kloves thickened from the books.Kloves says that when he first met Rowling, he told her he intuited that Lily "was quite special" and that James "was complicated." And in the bridge scene, Lupin "illuminates Harry about his mother - the most wonderful thing about her was that she was understanding toward Lupin at a time few were. She saw something special about him when others, including himself, couldn't." Kloves admits, "I think he was in love with her in many ways."Click- Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 IYHO.K.M.KM didn't the question pose which of the three HP films was your favorite.Why would you even insult me with your idiotic reply?I think Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is the best of the three, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Why would you even insult me with your idiotic reply?What's your problem Joe.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Prizoner of Azcaban.IYHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is the best of the three, deal with it.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I prefered PoA on my first viewing. I'll see it again at some point here.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Hmmmm it would appear the clear majority of board users prefer HP3. Now is HPfan finally going to come out and admit he was wrong to blast Cuaron over and over all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 85 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I saw the movie yesterday. It was the one of the three movies which fitted my preconceptions least. I think it's because of Cuaron's directing. I think the first half of the movie was a bit chaotic and not very fluent. The second half about the time-turning wasn't exactly as I imagined it from the book but it could have been a lot worse; at least it had a certain pace and it captured the essence of the passages in the book well. The inconsistency regarding Hogwarts grounds distracted me more than I thought they would. How can they just walk for fun in the forbidden forest!? And the shrunken heads, the poster of Sirius and the flying umbrella in the Quidditch match I found annoying. And there were some horrible close ups and cuts. Overall I think the movie was less intense than the first two and the atmosphere was too dark even in the light passages. Maybe let Columbus come back. And I'd choose another actor for the Dumbledore role next movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Now is HPfan finally going to come out and admit he was wrong to blast Cuaron over and over all this time? Â he shouldn't have to, he's not the only who has reservations about the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I will admit HPPOA was the first of the three films where I wasn't constantly checking my watch during the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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