Hlao-roo 388 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I just noticed that Shrek 2 ($435,600,000) has passed E.T. ($435,110,554) for #3 on the list of all-time domestic box office grosses (unadjusted for ticket price inflation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 That's unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I just noticed that Shrek 2 ($435,600,000) has passed E.T. ($435,110,554) for #3 on the list of all-time domestic box office grosses (unadjusted for ticket price inflation).Indeed. If E.T. had the same ticket prices as Shrek 2, it would probably still be in the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Someday the top 10 list will be dominated by computer animated films. Apparently that's what everyone wants.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Indeed. If E.T. had the same ticket prices as Shrek 2, it would probably still be in the lead.Agreed. These lists are useless unless they take into account the explosion of ticket prices the last several years.John- who is very picky about seeing movies in theaters due to the current prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 It's all because of the E.T. reference in Shrek 2.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 It's a hillarious reference. I say at least better this than Spiderman 2, I Robot, King Arthur, Bourne Supremecy, The Passion, Farenheit 9/11 or just about any other movie from this year. That movie made me laugh like I haven't in a long time, and while certainly not deserving anywhere near this position, I think it has more good intentions and is more succesful at it's goal than any of the above movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I agree, though I did like I, Robot quite a bit. Spider-Man 2 was only okay, worse than the first IMO and overrated. King Arthur sucked, but not as much as the score. And The Bourne Supremacy was pretty good, but nothing special.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I, Robot by any other name is a good movie. But it totaly betrayed everything Asimov stood for. And people think it actually was Asimov's story they were seeing because they happen to stick in and misuse his three laws. And I was so hoping that Proyes would continue making films like Dark City, which is such a great sci fi film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Anybody seen the DVD cover yet?#1 comedy of all time? Uhh...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I agree with that Uhh...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I saw shrek 2,and I thought it was mediocre at best.Humor can't get safer than this.I can see how this movie can be a hit with the kids,but I fail to see why adults or teenagers would see it over and over and over again and the lasting appeal of it..anybody can explain to me why this movie is such a phenemenon.?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Did anybody notice how the plot of Shrek 2 is essentially the same as that of the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Yes, I noticed. The "moral of the story" and thus the cilmax were carbon copies of those from the first film. Sadly, the score was primarily rehash because of this.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 and Shrek II's dvd will outsell E.T., but it will never be the movie that E.T. is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 And let's see if the 20th anniversary re-issue of Shrek 2 is as successful's as E.T.'s! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Nor will any other.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Dammit Neil, now my comment doesn't make sense. Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I haven't even seen Shrek 2 yet. My friends have been bugging me to see it, but I'm not interested in computer animated films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 It's a very funny film. But it's not that funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Anybody seen the DVD cover yet?#1 comedy of all time? Uhh...no.Shoud say The Most Overrated Movie of All TimesK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 There are many worse movies that are overrated.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I saw shrek 2,and I thought it was mediocre at best.Humor can't get safer than this.I can see how this movie can be a hit with the kids,but I fail to see why adults or teenagers would see it over and over and over again and the lasting appeal of it..anybody can explain to me why this movie is such a phenemenon.? It's hillarious. That's why. And what does the humor being safe have anything to do with it? How many great comdies can you name that do not have safe humor? Sadly, the score was primarily rehash because of this. Actually the score was not a rehash at all. Almost all of the score was new. Shoud say The Most Overrated Movie of All Times It is not that highly rated. It's getting the same kind of reviews Catch Me If You Can was getting- just about everyone likes it to a certain extent, except for a few who don't like it and a few who love it. There is a need today for great comedies, movies that have no higher pupose than to entertain, and succeed with flying colors. Shrek 2 is over-filled with joy and ideas, of people sitting around a room thinking 'what'll make 'em laugh?'. It never pauses on a joke, has a great new character, amazing voice acting and IMO the best looking Computor animated film to date (though it seems that each passing one is the best). I found the movie a joy to watch, and in a day when even the Coen Brothers can't be counted on, I really needed that laugh. I saw it on a Saturday night, and it kept me with a smile for days. What more can I ask from a comedy? I think a lot of it comes down to Pixar vs. Dreamworks. I can't understand why the hell people like Monsters Inc, which is such a waste of all the talents involved (just like my Leno/Letterman theory. Half the population thinks Leno is the dumbest show, the other half think Letterman is the dumbest show). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 The score had new parts, but by rehash I meant that a lot of the same arrangements of themes were used from the first film, maybe with minor differences. Kinda like the rehash bits in CoS. After seeing the film, I understood why no score album was released.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I haven't seen Shrek 2 in its entirety, only the first five minutes. But I don't plan to, even though computer animation is a huge interest of mine. I don't see why a film that parodies and steals can garner this kind of attention. Something unexplainable in the undercurrent completely repulses me. It's like I'm being violated when I look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 More Shrek - Two more sequels in development.According to the site's source, Katz went on to reveal further details about the storyline of future films in the ogre franchise. Â "Shrek 3 and 4 are going to reveal other unanswered questions and, finally, in the last chapter, we will understand how Shrek came to be in that swamp, when we meet him in the first movie. There is a reason he came to be there, but there is another chapter to the story before that," he says.Ooh, I can't wait to find out! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 II don't see why a film that parodies and steals can garner this kind of attention. What on earth does the film steal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 It never pauses on a joke, has a great new character, amazing voice acting and IMO the best looking Computor animated film to date (though it seems that each passing one is the best). I really felt that the characters' facial expressions weren't very true to the actors' performances. I have to give it to Pixar on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I thought they caught it perfectly, down to the smallest nuance. IMO just as good as Pixar's (Ellen Degenres in Nemo was really perfect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 388 Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 I prefer movies that rely less on pillaging pop culture for one spoof after another. Shrek 2, even more than its predecessor, leaves a kind of cynical aftertaste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Still cannot believe this movie has made so much money. It certainly does NOT deserve to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 IS there any other movie this year you particulaly think does deserve to? Neither The Passion nor Spiderman 2 deserve it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 And let's see if the 20th anniversary re-issue of Shrek 2 is as successful's as E.T.'s! Â Neil I don't plan on buying the anniversary set any time.Will you even remember this Shrek 20 years from now for some other reason than its anniversary re-release? One has to admit it is "top-class" animation-wise today, but it's likely this trend will become standards maybe even within a year, so there's what exactly in it left to remember for decades to come...? And its humor is not that much funny to last me for 20 years.Give me "Fatal Instinct" on DVD rather than this. That's timeless and funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 IS there any other movie this year you particulaly think does deserve to? Neither The Passion nor Spiderman 2 deserve it either.Perhaps The Passion and Michael Moore's documentary are deserving. If it makes people think about their spiritual, moral, social or cultural values, then I'm all for it.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 The reason Shrek 2 and Spiderman 2 made so much money is due to the fact they are actually good compared to the typical mindless MTV crap movies that are normally made.Boy I would sure hate to go to the movies with some of you on this message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 And let's see if the 20th anniversary re-issue of Shrek 2 is as successful's as E.T.'s! Â NeilNow ET 20th version is worth something? :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Perhaps The Passion and Michael Moore's documentary are deserving. If it makes people think about their spiritual, moral, social or cultural values, then I'm all for it. I would personaly prefer great laughter, an all too rare thing, than have films like those raise questions. I would lose nothing if those two films disappeared. I would lose hours of laughter if Shrek 2 dissappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 And let's see if the 20th anniversary re-issue of Shrek 2 is as successful's as E.T.'s! Â NeilNow ET 20th version is worth something? :roll:Luke, it was a joke. The E.T. 20th anniversary re-issue was a flop.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 7 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I didn't even like the movie, it was pretty stinky. Anyway, Finding Nemo I thought was a great movie, and Pixar are the best CGI animators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Perhaps The Passion and Michael Moore's documentary are deserving. If it makes people think about their spiritual, moral, social or cultural values, then I'm all for it. I would personaly prefer great laughter, an all too rare thing, than have films like those raise questions. I would lose nothing if those two films disappeared. I would lose hours of laughter if Shrek 2 dissappeared.I remember having good discussions after Schindler's List with my friends. I have fine memories of that night and I value them more than those of the night I saw Shrek 1, a moment which I simply can't recall. If thought-provoking films would altogether dissappear my interest in films wouldn't last very long. It's a personal thing, of course. I have nothing against comedy but I don't think there's one funny movie in my DVD collection. Oh yes, I do have one! The Spinal Tap! Smell the glove!----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I didn't even like the movie, it was pretty stinky. Anyway, Finding Nemo I thought was a great movie, and Pixar are the best CGI animators. To each his own. I thought Finding Nemo was very, very good, and was the best looking CGI film at the time, but that it seems to improve with each movie, Pixar or Dreamworks. I remember having good discussions after Schindler's List with my friends. I have fine memories of that night and I value them more than those of the night I saw Shrek 1, a moment which I simply can't recall. If thought-provoking films would altogether dissappear my interest in films wouldn't last very long. It's a personal thing, of course. I have nothing against comedy but I don't think there's one funny movie in my DVD collection. Oh yes, I do have one! The Spinal Tap! Smell the glove! The difference is Schindler's List is a great movie, unlike the two I mentioned. I would rather good comedies than bad thought provoking movies. And at least your one comedy is one of the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 And let's see if the 20th anniversary re-issue of Shrek 2 is as successful's as E.T.'s! Â NeilNow ET 20th version is worth something? :roll:Luke, it was a joke. The E.T. 20th anniversary re-issue was a flop.NeilReally?I think that as much as you disliked it, you bought it.And every ET fan who disliked it too.That was Spielberg great move, releasing it along the original version 8ONOTE: and i am talking about DVDs and you werent. It was joe's fault But anyway, a re-release of Sherk 2 will not be understood since it would have jokes of twenty years before, that shouldnt be a problem, but it just made jokes about actual stuff, that would be old news in 2024... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 It was disliked and it was a flop. And pointless. I bought it too, but I would never have bought it if it weren't for the original being included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Yes, and of course the original was only included in the 3-disc edition... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 It was four discs. And it was worth the $43.00. aND I'd eventually get the new CD just for completion's sake, so it was definately. I feel a director has the right to do what he wishes with the movie, as a creator. But as an artist who wants to get through to people, he should leave the option up to the audience. I have no problem with Spielberg 'fixing' his movie if he feels it necassery. He has every right to feel comfortable about his movie. I say the exact same thing about Lucas. The difference is that Spielberg's $50 set includes what the audience wants as well as what the director wants, whereas Lucas is being selfish and an egomaniac. The way I see it, for 43 bucks I got what I wanted for the extras for E.T., a CD release i would've gotten for completion anyway, what I wanted from the movie and as an added bonus, what Spielberg wanted from his movie. Not a bad deal the way I look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I think you are confused with the gift set.We got:1-disc including only the 20th Anniversary Edition2-disc including the 20th Anniversary Edition and an extras disc3-disc including the original version, the 20th Anniversary Edition, and an extras discThen there was the gift set, which included the original version, the 20th Anniversary Edition, an extras disc, and the 20th AE soundtrack.I didn't mind the rerelease. It gave me E.T. on CD and I was very happy. It's still one of my favorite Williams scores.- Marc, who needs to watch E.T. again this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Oh, I wasn't aware of the 3 disc set. I thought there was the 1 & 2 sets and the gift set.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I have the 3-disc set of ET. I have it because my interest lies in the original version only. I don't think I will ever watch the "Lucassed" version. ET's facial expressions kinda freaks me out on that one.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 For the time being I only have the special edition version - I got it relatively cheap, and that original version was too expensive around here. I'm hoping of getting it eventually though. Nevertheless, that's the downside of releasing both versions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I have the 2-disc set and it has both the 20th Anniv. and original versions. The original is on the extras disc.John- who has been meaning to watch the movie with the live score track for a while.John 2- loving Lotman's new sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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