pixie_twinkle 44 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I recently heard a rumour that Spielberg plans to re-release the Indiana Jones trilogy with deleted/extended scenes plus updated effects in a couple of years' time to coincide with the new movie. Can anyone shed any light on this, or is it a pile of Bantha Poodoo? If it's true I'll be very excited to see these new editions. At least Spielberg did the decent thing and gave us a tasty re-mastered DVD set of the original films before tampering with them. (I apologise if this has been covered elsewhere in the forum.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I've seen rumors about Raiders getting this treatment, but not the whole series. Whether it's true or not,...*shrug*.Personally I think that money could be better spent elsewhere. Complete score releases, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 "Don't believe them! Don't trust them!"Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Speilberg will fuck with anything not nailed to the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 That's a very uneducated statement. I believe these are the same rumours that were circling before the DVDs came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 7 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I hope not, the Indy films don't need to be touched they are excellent as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I really doubt it, they would have done it last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Star Wars, I can understand them wanting to make changes and tweaks here and there. But Indiana Jones? Why? They haven't dated. They're perfect as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Star Wars, I can understand them wanting to make changes and tweaks here and there. Â But Indiana Jones? Â Why? Â They haven't dated. Â They're perfect as they are.The special effects not dated? Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Even if they have, would changing them make those films any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I, a SFX freak, do not consider the Indy movies to need 'enhacements'.And Indy shot firstEven if that scene had to be that way 'cause Ford had diarrhea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 No, but don't tell me the effects haven't dated. I remember when they (Jones, Shorty, Kate) came out of the mountain hole that the effects were pretty evident, as were the soldiers falling into the abyss. I mean, even in the 80s, it was already clear as crystall that these FXs were visable. But hey, maybe they have been tuned up a little for the DVD release, I don't know.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I dont care about optical cleaning.Adding new CGI things well...I'll have to see Indy IV. Then they may need consistency, but i htink it would never be as 'hard' as with SW, so i wouldnt care if they are not touched... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 7 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Typical blue screen and matt painting problems only Alexcremers, not too bad, not worth trying to fix. They aren't really FX movies I think, I mean they aren't Star Wars, it's set in the 1930's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEfighter 0 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I don´t think that an optical cleaning and some renewed effects would decrease the quality of the films, but a lot of people would be complaining about the changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 They already complained about the DVD cleanins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I'm not complaining, those changes were ever so minor, and they were corrections of actual mistakes, not things the director thought should have been done differently 20 years ago, just cause he's in a different stage of his life now.The Indy set has the 3 films, 99.8 % unaltered, in brilliant picture and sound quality, so i'm happy with them.The only thing i'm not content about is the small amount of extra's, and the way both Spielberg and Lucas seem to feel the need to apologize for the wonderfull Temple Of Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I'm not complaining, those changes were ever so minor, and they were corrections of actual mistakes, not things the director thought should have been done differently 20 years ago, just cause he's in a different stage of his life now.The Indy set has the 3 films, 99.8 % unaltered, in brilliant picture and sound quality, so i'm happy with them.The only thing i'm not content about is the small amount of extra's, and the way both Spielberg and Lucas seem to feel the need to apologize for the wonderfull Temple Of Doom.Wonderful Temple of Doom? Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 44 Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 "Don't believe them! Â Don't trust them!"Neil"I've never been able to forgive them for the death of Star Wars..."But seriously, I think the first two Indy films still look excellent and really don't need any tweaking. Reinserted scenes might be interesting if they're done well and don't necessitate the butchering of Johnny's score. As for Last Crusade, I think this contains the weakest looking effects of the trilogy. I appreciate that many of these effects are more complex than the earlier movies, but I would love them to CG all the plane shots. The CSO/model shots really look bad, especially for a 1989 film! I don't get how all the plane shots in 1987's Empire of the Sun look so much better (or maybe they were real planes...). Here's my overall philosophy on "special editions". I have no problem with dodgy-looking old effects being overlaid with more realistic CGI versions OF THE SAME THING. It's just when completely new effects are added for no reason at all other than the fact that it is now easier to do them that I get annoyed. A good example is the dewback standing in the background as Luke/Ben enter the bar in Mos Eisley. There was nothing wrong with the original! It moved much more slowly, nodding it's head up and down. It looked real compared to the overanimated new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 TOD is a wonderfull film.It takes all the best elements from Raiders, and takes it from there.It's an uncompromising piece of film making that grabs you by the throattrows you around the cinema 9or living room) for 2 hours, before finally putting you back in your seat, exhausted but satisfied.Raiders may the the classic Indiana Jones film, but TOD is the most like a rollercoaster ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 388 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 TOD is the most like a rollercoaster ride.Well, it definitely has its ups and downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Hmmm... See, I'd heard that many changes to Raiders actually were completed (nothing as big as the Star Wars changes, more like the THX 1138 background changes etc), but dropped from this DVD version at the last minute. I think this came from the same "insider" on TF.N who accurately reported many of the Star Wars DVD changes way before anyone else knew anything about them, though I may be mistaken.Either way, I really don't mind what they do to the Indy films now... I've got the version I wanted. Maybe a new enhanced release of the films in the future would give us more hope of expanded scores?TOD is a wonderfull film. I'd choose to watch Temple of Doom over Last Crusade any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Â (nothing as big as the Star Wars changes, more like the THX 1138 background changes etc). The look of the film is completely changed in THX 1138! Nothing big?!?! I'm shocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Has Robert Duvall's head been swapped? Anybody been digitally replaced with other actors? Are there giant CGI-created animals lumbering all over the place now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 35 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 There are changes to Robert in the movie. (The eye balling per example)There are CGI-created "animals"/humans somewhere in the movie, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Are there giant CGI-created animals lumbering all over the place now?Yes,there's some CGI monkeys popping up in scenes near the end.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Are they screaming. "WESA FREEE!!!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 7 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Temple of Doom, well it was my favourite one when I was a kid, now it's my least favourite one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 CGI Monkeys??? But... Why??? Oh, never mind, I'm not sure I want to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I'm not complaining, I know, you should know who i point out when i spoke of that things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Either way, I really don't mind what they do to the Indy films now... I've got the version I wanted. Maybe a new enhanced release of the films in the future would give us more hope of expanded scores?I agree 100% with this! We have the original films on DVD, and if in the future we will have another DVD-set of the trilogy with edited films, I will buy them. That's for sure!!! TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Tommy's here, it must be saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Tommy's here, it must be saturday.Yes.I hope you're happy.I hope you like Saturdays.I hope I'm not ruining your week-end.TJ - hoping. Steef, next time be sure to write "Saturday" with the capital letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Well, surely it's better than Saurday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 HAHAHAHAHA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 oh shit shit shitForget about it banghead damn fuck shit %*!£%$&°#@of course I did that intentionally, Steef...you just fall in it again eheheheh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Hey, this is a family oriented site.Only wholesome discussion please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 I thought according to you it's a Cosman-oriented site.Marian - :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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