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Rocky IX in 10 years time!!!!! In keeping with the spirit of Rocky John Williams will incorporate music from the previous films. His lush orchestral instrumental of Eye of the Tiger will be the film's highlight.

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This is probably another one of Alan's sarcastic threads.

A pity he did not use a ;) emoticon in his post.

Now we will never know for sure.

I agree it becomes very hard to distinguish his sarcastic posts from his informative, serious, and profesional posts.

Justin

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 Morlock- who thinks Rudy sounds infinately more Williams than Goldsmith

Then you need to listen to more Goldsmith. :roll:

In the past few months I've listened to almost no one else. There are things in it that are classic Williams touches.

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With regard to Rudy, my suspicion is that the film was temp-tracked with a lot of Far and Away. The music has the Goldsmith stamp on it, but his two dominant themes bear some resemblance to two of Williams' themes. That might also account for why Goldsmith's score is so Irish, above and beyond what would should probably be called for, even accounting for the fact that the team has an Irish connection.

- Adam

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The only similarity I discovered in Rudy was with a theme from Goldsmith's The Swarm (many years before F&A ;))...not counting Rachel Portman's Cider House Rules, which came after Rudy.

Marian - who considers Rudy classic Goldsmith.

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I concider classic Goldsmith. But It could've been classic Williams as well, one of the 2-3 scores I could say would apply to both.

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I said it had the "Golsmith stamp". I'm simply saying that Far and Away was probably used a lot as a temp track. Sort of like, Jurassic Park is pure Williams even though the film was temp tracked with other composers and its possible to see connections. Not even JW or JG can ignore the temp-track completely.

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Hook -- The Baseball Scene

WOE -- Tennis Match (that is, if you consider tennis a sport...)

F&A -- Blowing off Steam, Fighting for Dough, The Big Match

Jaws 2 -- Catamaran Race

Johnny Goldfarb -- Orientalized Notre Dame Fight Song

Black Sunday -- Football stuff

All of these are stretches in one way or another. JW just isn't an "athletic" composer, I guess.

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I cannot believe after so many movies JW scored he didn't get stuck with a sappy movie about a sucky highschool football team winning the championship or like a MLB baseball team with a blind pitcher who pitches a no hitter. There aren't many better chances to wip out the forever modulating old soaring strings and standard Hollywood I - vi - IV - V tune.

PS Go Yankees

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Has anyone ever seen or heard Flashing Spikes (1962)? It was a TV movie directed by none other than the great John Ford, starred Jimmy Stewart and Jack Warden and was about baseball. I think it was one of those Alcoa Theater thingummies. Oh yes, and it was scored by John Williams!

Does that count, even though I've never seen it?

beerchug

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Too bad he didn't score Friday Night Lights.  It looks really . . . good.

My mom went to that high school, Permian High in Odessa. It's probably the most famous high school football team in the state. The book Friday Night Lights is supposed to be really good. Whether that translates into a good movie, :? .

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Hook -- The Baseball Scene

JW didn't score this scene.

Come again? I was talking about the big pirate baseball game which... is trademark Williams.

You must be thinking of the jazzy song during the little-league game at the beginning of the movie. I've always been under the impression that it too was Williams, but if you have evidence that it's not, I'd be very curious.

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The first part of the Neverland baseball game has source music, Take Me Out To the Ballgame. Williams probably arranged it. The actual cue written by Williams starts in the buildup to Jack hitting the home run.

And the jazzy cue at the start is also Williams, Banning Back Home.

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