John Crichton 4 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Spielberg must fight 'War' fastWotW has started filming, and this is a great article on the challenge Spielberg has set for himself. Started shooting Nov. 7, in theaters June 29. Hopefully it'll work out, I'm very optimistic for a good score here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 9 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Hey, that's my birthday (June 29)!~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I'm surprised by the lack of attention this movie has been getting.Yeah,this should be a good score,but this movie seems in the same general tone of Doom as Epiosode 3.Lets hope Williams can make the two different.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 War of the Worlds will be recorded in LA - most likely at Sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Sounds like a bad idea to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 .Yeah,this should be a good scoreK.M.Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I hope the packaging will contain a fold-out poster - I have a few spots left on my CD poster wall. And if there's a screensaver and cool exclusive internet stuff included on the CD, Sony'll make my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't have a clue what Steven is thinking, making this film in present day in the U.S.Justin - who thinks it could be great, but it could also bomb.P.S. Score should be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 P.S. Score should be exciting. Why? No, really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Why will this score be awesome?Lets see...Minority Report was awesomeHarry Potter 1-3 were awesomeStar Wars prequels music was awesomeAnd Spielberg will capture the real scariness of an alien invasion, unlike Independence Day et all.Therefore, Williams will get to write a scary/action hybrid.So what if it sounds like Episode 3 in some parts. Its not like its going to have the Imperial March, the Force theme the Love theme and the Emperor's theme.It will have its own identity.Look what he did with HP3/Terminal so close together!He'll score it like he sees it, and I bet he'll be on a roll (and perhaps relieved to be done with SW so he can loosen up his style). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Why? No, really!The film is an alien invasion with the biggest action star leading it. Think there might be some action in it?Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The film is an alien invasion with the biggest action star leading it. Think there might be some action in it?scary/action hybridAre these important elements that indicate the possibility of a good score?How about The Patriot? It also had a biggg star and loooads of action. AOTC left many fans in the cold. Numerous die-hard fans leave their copy of Minority Report, an true action- thriller, gathering dust on the shelf. And yet, word is spreading, this score WILL rock and Memoirs will be poop. Is action music the only worthwhile music Johnny writes? I'm a new Williams fan and I would like to know. BTW, this is a cool MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 You just like to squeeze in your stuff where ever you can, huh? Any Williams has huge potential. The Patriot was Emmerich, so that doesn't count. I can't imagine looking forward to that one to any significant extent. But I'm eagerly anticipating WoTW and Geisha. Of the two, I'd probably choose WoTW, but just the idea that Geisha is a non-Spielberg, Lucas, Potter, Colombus, Star Wars film is a hugely exciting idea for me. I think both could be absolutely magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Minority Report is one of Williams' best scores. It is certainly not collecting any dust on my shelf. I don't know if most people are worried about him writing like that again.I haven't seen anyone think Geisha will be a bad score.Although Patriot was ... patriotic, it is very good music. I listen to it happily. And it has some truly great moments.I think it is possible for a composer to become so good that he never fails. I think John Williams is that composer. And I enjoy all of his albums, including Sleepers, Rosewood, 7 Years in Tibet, Nixon, etc.His last 2 scores were of very, very high quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Minority Report is one of Williams' best scores. It is certainly not collecting any dust on my shelf.somehow I suspect you are in the minority here,Joe, who only occasionally listens to MR, like when monkeys fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Minority Report is one of Williams' best scores. It is certainly not collecting any dust on my shelf. I don't know if most people are worried about him writing like that again. I agree. I really don't see what it is that people have against it (apart from the horrible sound). For me, it's one of his best of the last ten years, if not thé best (though the last two scores are to be taken into account as well).I also don't see why people are more looking forward to WotW than Geisha. That's like, fanboyish. () Both have great potential, let's wait and see which one comes out best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Spielberg is making this movie in a big hurry,and he needs a movie to re-establish himself as box office king from the Jurassic Park days.I doubt WotW will be as bleak as Minority Report or pseudo serious and moralistic like A.I. So I think this will be a rather straight forward heroic adventure score for Williams...the kind I like best and that Williams is also best at IMO.It may sound a bit like CE3k,a trend evidenced in PoA.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I haven't seen anyone think Geisha will be a bad score.Excuse me? When it was confirmed, most people here held a day of mourning.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Excuse me? When it was confirmed, most people here held a day of mourning. LOL Must have missed that! No, come on, that will be a great score! I read a few very happy responses to the news.Williams + Geisha = interesting music (featuring a soloist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I also don't see why people are more looking forward to WotW than Geisha. That's like, fanboyish. () Both have great potential, let's wait and see which one comes out best.I bet they'll both be equally god in their own ways. Ever watch Williams rehearse his new concert music? That's what its like when I hear a new Williams score. Surprises around every corner. I'll be one happy customer when Ep3 and WotW hit shelves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Excuse me? When it was confirmed, most people here held a day of mourning.Only because we lost GoF. I don't think anyone would have complained if Williams had taken on Geisha as an additional project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I'm interested in Geisha and War of the Worlds. Could care less about Revenge of the Sith (although as a John Williams fan, I'll buy it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Could care less about Revenge of the SithHow much less could you care?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Only because we lost GoF. I don't think anyone would have complained if Williams had taken on Geisha as an additional project.Bingo.Ray Barnsbury-who still occasionally laughs over KM's track titles for Geisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 23, 2004 Author Share Posted November 23, 2004 Yeah, KM's track titles were pretty good. I wonder how close to the real thing they'll be? As for Geisha, the concept of the project really holds no interest for me as I've said before, but I really don't get mad at it just for GoF anymore either. What gets me is that every time WotW is brought up there has to be this big fight bewteen that and Giesha for what's "more worthy" or something. Pretty silly, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Could care less about Revenge of the SithHow much less could you care?Neil LOL I'm sick of hearing it said wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 As for Geisha, the concept of the project really holds no interest for me as I've said before, but I really don't get mad at it just for GoF anymore eitherWhat's wrong with you guys.K.M.STILL mad Williams isn't scoring GoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Yeah. Just to clarify, it's:a) I couldn't care less ... etc;ORB) Like I could care less ... etc.And as for Memoirs of a Geisha - I reckon it holds the greatest chance of being the most inspired and original 2005 score, and as a result, will probably score an Oscar nomination (or probably win if Williams loses this coming February), thanks to the late year-end release date planned.I'm excited about all Williams scores. I just don't know how many more of them are left in him. Each new one is to be treasured, not ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 And as for Memoirs of a Geisha - I reckon it holds the greatest chance of being the most inspired and original 2005 score...Thank the lord there are still a few sensible amongst us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Is action music the only worthwhile music Johnny writes?It would seem to be so from the response to Memoirs of A Geisha. BTW I never said the score would be good, I said it would be exciting. Although I'm sure I will enjoy it. I enjoyed Minority Report and The Patriot.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 What a varied fan base resides here! There are those whose interest in Williams' music wanes if scored to a particular film? I find this enlightening indeed.He could score a gum wrapper's travels down a sewer gutter and I'd be interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 What a varied fan base resides here! There are those whose interest in Williams' music wanes if scored to a particular film? I find this enlightening indeed.He could score a gum wrapper's travels down a sewer gutter and I'd be interested!That's true. Thank the gods Williams doesn't stick to one movie genre. Although some would say he has a tendency to choose for the "blockbuster" genre.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 85 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well, what Williams will write for WotW will depend greatly on the style of the movie. I guess it will have a comedic/ironic undertone, in between ID4 and Mars Attacks. I hope the score will be in between the ID4 score and the Mars Attacks score as well.MSM - hoping for a couple of over-the-top quasi-heroic themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well, what Williams will write for WotW will depend greatly on the style of the movie. I guess it will have a comedic/ironic undertone, in between ID4 and Mars Attacks. I hope the score will be in between the ID4 score and the Mars Attacks score as well.MSM - hoping for a couple of over-the-top quasi-heroic  themes I don't see Spielberg doing anything close to ID4 or Mars Attacks! Look at the tone of his last few films. Even the ones that are supposedly "comedies" such as CMIYC and The Terminal both had a serious tenor to them. In fact, both end kind of bittersweet, something that's a welcome sight. So I think that WoTW will be entertaining of course, but I don't honestly think that Spielberg, at this point of his film career, would take 10 steps back to produce something as one-dimensional as ID4 or Mars Attacks. Leave that to George Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 War of the Worlds will be a more intimate look, from the everyday man, at earths destruction by the martians, rather than the impersonal, Mr. President, story, more like the original film, and book, than ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Sounds good to me Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I still would rather Vengance than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 23, 2004 Author Share Posted November 23, 2004 All indications are Vengance will be done eventually. This is just being done first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 That's true. Thank the gods Williams doesn't stick to one movie genre. Although some would say he has a tendency to choose for the "blockbuster" genre. But who would have thought Home Alone would be such a big money maker? I think sometimes, he raises a movie to the level that gets more people through the door. Not because they know his name, but because word spreads that the movie is very emotionally satisfying on some level. Think of Jaws. Could have been an average success without the Williams score. I don't think Spielberg is being facetious when he acknowledges this. That music building up to the blow up enhanced the payoff so well. Same with the Star Wars blow up scene.I think WotW will have a pretty modern, scary, brassy score with electronics and atonality. There will be motifs rather than themes methinks, much like Minority Report. Perhaps Spielberg will call on Williams for a Big Theme. That would be pretty excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I think it'd be sweet if he scored the whole film with a string quartet. It sounds goofy at first but it'd be such a new, original approach. It could breathtaking.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I agree. But I'm sure Williams will approach this with at least some original aspects. His scores since The Patriot have been quite 'refreshing' - even Attack of the Clones used something unusual, in the chase cue - though I'm thinking specifically about his Spielberg scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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