Dean1700 4 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Does any one have a track list for Yared's Troy.I have seen a scan of the rear cover and compared the CD (that I have at least) the times are all out of sequence. Either the times are out of sequence with the tracks on the scan or the tracks on the CD I have on the CD are out of sequence.:? I'm so confused :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Here's the track list I have:1) Approaching the Greeks 2'322) Achilles's Destiny 5'443) Opening 3'594) Achilles and Boagrius 3'485) Sparta 2'016) Helen and Paris 1'467) D-Day Battle 4'528) 7000 Ships 3'329) Mourning Women 1'2710) Achilles and Brisies 5'3311) Battle of the Arrows 7'1012) Greek Funeral Pyre 2'2113) Hector! Hector! 3'3714) Achilles and Hector Fight 4'3915) Hector's Funeral 2'2616) The Sacking of Troy 7'4817) Achilles's Death 8'5018) End Title Song 4'38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Same as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Same as mine too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Same as mine three... but I've come to understand that exist at least a couple more bootlegs going around with Yared's score, and have totally diferent track listings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Share Posted December 6, 2004 You have all set me straight now. My thanks to you all. It is the same as what I have as well, save for a few seconds on the times of each track. I just had to be sure. That's all.BTW it's fantastic music too, far too good to have been rejected for what ever petty reason why it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 never trust tracktimes... if it stats and end well with aproximate time, it is right.Even official covers srew them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Well, step 1: Did you go to my site?3 versions: 2 each with reordered tracklists and the other is just the mp3 low quality sound cues that were on his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 That's what I have, but I saw one that first that had all really short track times, it almost fooled me.Must have been the cues from his site, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Check out these two...totally different!http://filmmuziek.xs4all.nl/composer/oc/troy_front.jpghttp://filmmuziek.xs4all.nl/composer/oc/troy_back.jpghttp://filmmuziek.xs4all.nl/composer/oc/TR...ETE%20FRONT.jpghttp://filmmuziek.xs4all.nl/composer/oc/TR...LETE%20BACK.jpgHope it helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Cool, Dutch sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 wow, what a reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The one that runs for half an hour is probably just the samples that Yared had up on his website for a while. The track times even match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I know of two versions (excluding the one with the clips), and both have great sound. So either one is a safe bet, either way you get what is IMO one of the finest scores ever written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 really it's so good, Morlock?Why then was rejected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 really it's so good, Morlock?Why then was rejected?Test audiences thought it sounded old fashioned.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Studio executives had their heads stuck up their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Studio executives had their heads stuck up their asses. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I know of two versions (excluding the one with the clips), and both have great sound. So either one is a safe bet, either way you get what is IMO one of the finest scores ever written.Absolutely. Check out the latest issue of Film Score Monthly if you want a detailed analysis of the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yared's Troy is a very good score, but i'm perplexed that so many people consider it ONE OF THE BEST SCORES EVER WRITTEN!It it because it was tossed so everyone became were defensive about it?It's good, but it's no TESB or TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Don't write in capital letters...You broke the MB rules.I hope Neil bans you for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Don't write in capital letters...You broke the MB rules.I hope Neil bans you for this!"HI, I WANNA DOWNLOAD THE MP3 OF THIS SCORE FOR DOING MY OWN BOOTLEG, WHERE I CAN GET THEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 That was old, old and older! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yared's Troy is a very good score, but i'm perplexed that so many people consider it ONE OF THE BEST SCORES EVER WRITTEN!It it because it was tossed so everyone became were defensive about it?It's good, but it's no TESB or TMP. One of the best ever written is a wider classification than one of the two best scores ever written. It's a score that strikes me as one of the best. Recently, there have been maybe one or two of those a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I know of two versions (excluding the one with the clips), and both have great sound. So either one is a safe bet, either way you get what is IMO one of the finest scores ever written.Absolutely. Check out the latest issue of Film Score Monthly if you want a detailed analysis of the music.Could someone scan this? Pleeeease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Is the bootleg in good audio quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I know of two versions (excluding the one with the clips), and both have great sound. So either one is a safe bet, either way you get what is IMO one of the finest scores ever written.Absolutely. Check out the latest issue of Film Score Monthly if you want a detailed analysis of the music.Could someone scan this? Pleeeease? I could do it tomorrow. And the audio quality is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Okay, I scanned it, but the attachment quota is full (plus I'm not sure on what the policy is regarding copyrighted magazine scans). Any suggestions, anyone? It's 4 page scans, about 300-400 KB each. (To say I'm all thumbs in this type of stuff would be a huge understatement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Okay, I scanned it, but the attachment quota is full (plus I'm not sure on what the policy is regarding copyrighted magazine scans). Any suggestions, anyone? It's 4 page scans, about 300-400 KB each.Photobucket.comNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Thanks a lot, that was perfect!LINKS DELETED BY MODERATOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 If you love FSM so much, you should encourage sales and not freely redistribute their articles. If people really want to read it, they should preferably buy the magazine or as a last resort PM Morlock for the links.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I think the score is very good, much better that Horner's version or Vangelis' take on Alexander, but it does suffer from some lack of originality. But it's a great score, I listen to it very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dang it, I think this was the first link I got rejected. Ah, well. I guess I learned my lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Steffy Weffy said:It's good, but it's no TESB or TMP.You're right. Cue for cue it's SUPERIOR to TESB and TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Cue for cue it's SUPERIOR to TESB and TMP. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Was that meant to be funny...because if it wasn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Steffy Weffy said:It's good, but it's no TESB or TMP.You're right. Cue for cue it's SUPERIOR to TESB and TMP.That's a bad way to try and get people to like the score.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Ole' Tharpy ain't been himself recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Steffy Weffy said:It's good, but it's no TESB or TMP.You're right. Cue for cue it's SUPERIOR to TESB and TMP.That's a bad way to try and get people to like the score.Justin Worked on me! And so well, that it worked retroactively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I think the elements in Yared's score are the same in TESB and TMP; fluid melodies, bold harmonic progressions and a uniform developement of thematic material. Yared's Troy isn't like 90% of the scores we hear today which are the equivelant to aural wall paper. His score is musical and dynamic, much like early Williams and Goldsmith efforts that attracted generations of music lovers toward film scoring. While I don't think Troy is "better" than TESB or TMP, it certainly is on par with them and is leagues ahead of anything I've heard out of Hollywood in years. And this has nothing to do with the fact that it was rejected. It has everything to do with the quality and care that went into composing the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 No, I'm serious.And any dickhead who won't like a score based on what somebody says at a message board that's against their likes, is UNDESERVING of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I love the score. BUt it's not even in the same league as ESB. A score that reaches that level isn't just great, it belongs to the stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 And Neil, a rolling laughing smile is not conversation. Take a page from Fiery Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I love the score. BUt it's not even in the same league as ESB. A score that reaches that level isn't just great, it belongs to the stars.Well everyone has their own opinion about music but from an objective standpoint based solely on the construction of the music (harmony, melody, rhythm, orchestration, variation) there hasn't been a lot out there since ESB or TMP that can boast the same compositional prowess. When is the last time you heard a 4 part fugue with the level of chromatic passing tones that worked that well in a film score? Hmmm, Jaws' Shark Cage Fugue maybe? Point is, there aren't a lot of examples where a composer went to the lengths Yared did to paint a perfect picture of an ancient civilization. I'm with Thardavenport on this. Troy is brilliant. And I don't use "brilliant" that often.And having heard Vaneglis' ALEXANDER, it is a complete insult to Yared to mention his score with Vangelis' piece of trash in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Neil could argue the pants off just about anyone here.Justin - Pantless and not about to forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Yeah, we waited forever for a new score from Vangelis and we got another Chariots Of Fire take off. MAybe cousins with Horner?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Well, I mentioned Vagelis just to express my opinion that Troy is much better. BTW, and anyone tried playing the music with film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I have, it works gloriously. I am working with a friend on an acceptable mix of the movie with Yared's score. Hopefully, we'll be able to spread a few files around with cue times in order to prove conclusively how amazing the score is as music and as a film score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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