QMM 4 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I found this on www.spielbergfilms.com: -Confirmed: Williams to score ?War?John Williams fans should breathe easy as despite his lack of credit on the film?s teaser one-sheet and trailer, Steven Spielberg?s long-time composer is indeed on the film. We received direct confirmation of Mr. Williams? involvement from the ?War of the Worlds? unit publicist, so make room on your CD shelf for Williams? score (his 24th collaboration with Spielberg to date) and sleep easy tonight.Besides his work on ?War of the Worlds,? Williams will also be scoring the Spielberg-produced ?Memoirs of a Geisha? and George Lucas? final ?Star Wars? installment ?Revenge of the Sith? during 2005.Hmmm....that's one way to kill of the excitement in this thread isn't it? I may sound like a little focker now, but.......I'm still not convinced.Yeah, yeah, call me a pessimist or a wacko, but what do agents and "unit publicists" REALLY know? Aren't they just basing their statements on ASSUMPTION instead of actual CONTRACTUAL PROOF? I just to see Williams' name on an official poster or credited on the next trailer. THEN I am convinced.RoaldI bet when it finally is revealed in the trailer that Williams in scoring it, you'll still not believe."Did Williams put together that trailer? Spielberg has no idea who's scoring the film, what does he know?"Max-Enjoying a surprising closing of school due to snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 I bet when it finally is revealed in the trailer that Williams in scoring it, you'll still not believe."Did Williams put together that trailer? Spielberg has no idea who's scoring the film, what does he know?"I'll believe it when I have the CD in my hands!Nah, I'm just joking. I'll believe when John Williams is credited on the trailer reel.Although, how do we know then if it's OUR John Williams? It could in theory also be that guitar dude! OH NO the agony!Nah, that's me joking again. Anyway why are we still discussing this? We all now know that ........Tha Zimmer is coming! Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Anyway why are we still discussing this?That's the question that's been bugging me since page one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 PO-TA-TOES.Justin - Who's been doing that for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 That's the question that's been bugging me since page one.And still you keep reading it untill the fifth page! Wow, that takes stamina! Roald, who doesn't invest time in things that irritate or "bug" him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 That's the question that's been bugging me since page one.And still you keep reading it untill the fifth page! Wow, that takes stamina! I'm in training for the priesthood.And I really couldn't believe the topic hadn't changed yet, so I kept checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 "this thread serves no purpose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 *six months from now*Well, it was a great score, but how do we know John Williams wrote it? There are plenty of people who can imitate him well, Clint Bajakian for example, perhaps one of his imitators is actually named John Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 LOL Reminds me of when the Ep. II OST leaked a few weeks early and people were wondering if it was real and was really Williams.John- counting posts till the first "that's because it sucked" comments. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 John- counting posts till the first "that's because it sucked" comments. Rolling EyesI may be one of the few who actually liked the Episode II score. I still think the Love Theme is among the best Williams ever wrote.Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 According to spielbergfilms.com there's official word that JW will indeed score War of the Worlds!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 There's a shocker. Morlock- who was actually expecting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 I'm sorry to intrude on your little party dance, but uh, this is kinda old news boy. I already posted this (and my - according to Ender "extremely paranoid to a pathological level"-behaviour) reaction too! Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Well, I saw it now and I gotta say I'm really relieved. Although, of course, I WAS kinda expecting it . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 Uuuhhh... Did you also read my 'putting up the white flag', YET skill skeptical reaction?Something's still nagging me a bit on this one. I don't know...Well, maybe it's just me being "extremely paranoid to a pathological level" Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Uuuhhh... Did you also read my 'putting up the white flag', YET skill skeptical reaction?Something's still nagging me a bit on this one. I don't know...Well, maybe it's just me being "extremely paranoid to a pathological level" RoaldYour paranoism is frightening. P.S. Hey, wait, here's a thought. What if John Williams won't score RotS, now that he's decided to do WotW. Probably James Horner will take over at the last minute and score RotS instead. How about that. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 If that's the case, I know what the bad guy theme will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 Ta-Na-Na-Naaahhh Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Are you not bothered by the very simple (even simplistic) orchestrations, not to mention that "militaristic" passage in the middle of Across The Stars that seems to have no relation to the actual love theme, or the OATC score what so ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Are you not bothered by the very simple (even simplistic) orchestrations, not to mention that "militaristic" passage in the middle of Across The Stars that seems to have no relation to the actual love theme, or the OATC score what so ever?I'm so glad Williams didn't again used the same structure and thematic approach he used on Leia's Theme, Superman Love Theme, Marion's Theme, Han Solo And The Princess, E.T. and Me and Luke and Leia. I hope you understand what structure I'm refering to. These pieces are, ofcourse, very different in a melodic sense.Across The Stars is more straightforward, more "Hornerish", but not in bad way. I love it's simplicity (and the orchestration works fine with me!).The militaristic passage is brilliant! It makes the piece more profound and when the theme repeats itself after this passage it comes out so effectively and strong.Williams clearly wrote a theme in the same vain as Francis Lai's Love Strory or a Maurice Jarre piece. It's different; it's what Hollywood regards a Love Theme to be. The middle passage makes it actually deviate from becoming too simple, too cliche if you will. Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I still think The Love theme is basically Luke's theme rearranged in epic "Braveheart" mode.Just whistle both themes, the similarity is inmistakable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Luke's Theme?????I can give you the notes of the two pieces, but they are really very unalike. The Superman Theme or E.T. Flying's Theme have MUCH more in common with Luke's Theme.Not to mention Korngold's King's Row! Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Are you not bothered by the very simple (even simplistic) orchestrations, not to mention that "militaristic" passage in the middle of Across The Stars that seems to have no relation to the actual love theme, or the OATC score what so ever?AOTC you mean...the love theme is great, but not JW's best love theme, which we all know is the one from Raiders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 *sigh*Don't just listen to the notes, listen to the length of the notes and the intervalls.There is an interesting similarity there that most people that have a musical education just seem to miss.That's why I pity you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Length of the notes and intervals? Also not very similar. Are we talking about the same music here?Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I've always heard the rythym of Luke's Theme in Across the Stars. And I'm sure it's very intentional. It's where Luke comes from, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thank you Mr. Crichton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 ..But, but Luke Theme is a MARCH and Across The Stars is almost a WALTZ??Mesa donno understando...Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 You should learn not to think in terms like that.You should try to FEEL music instead of applying your musical education upon it.You must unlearn all that you have learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 I will try...Roald (awaiting another classic Yoda line to follow this post...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 *sigh*OK, i'll humor you.No, do...or do not, there is no try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 :oops: Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Why the sad face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 :cry: Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 ....I can't....It's impossible...(yeah, yeah, come on Steef, now another one...!)Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Failure?A musical education hinders the enjoyment of music IMO.Does it highten the enjoyment of a magic show if you know how the trick of sawing a women in half is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 "Ah music...A magic beyond all we do here..."RoaldPS I really have to listen later to the two pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 another thread is going wild...you're going off-topic, althought this is funny.But John Williams will still score War of the Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 At least we got Roald to shut up about Williams not doing WOTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 At least we got Roald to shut up about Williams not doing WOTW.Believe, no one is more happy about that than me! Roald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 At least we got Roald to shut up about Williams not doing WOTW. I hope so, this thread was funny when someone posted the fake score CD cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Williams will be doing it as TJ said, but only because Patrick Doyle isn't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I hope so, this thread was funny when someone posted the fake score CD cover. Yeah, that was brilliant!Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Another thread, this one now down the S-bend. At least this one has no real purpose anymore anyway. I pity all you people who still doubt Williams' involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 what's these s-bend and u-bend?just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 It's the pipe you see at the rear of the base of a toilet. Sometimes it's in an S-shape but sometimes it's in a U-shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 oh, I understand now...but this has nothing to do with JW.BTW, what time is it in your part of Australia? Here it's 3.15 AM so I should already be sleeping. EDIT: it's about 3.55 AM, but I still should be sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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