Josh500 1,615 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Just wondering . . .Although they're all good, I think I would like for Steven Spielberg to not collaborate with one specific composer, but to choose a different one every time depending on the movie. I think none of the above is as versatile as JW, nor will they ever be. I think James Horner comes closest, but then again, for every hit, he produces three stinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Allow me to be the first to say...Michael Giacchino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Never heard of him. Who the heck is that? An Italian composer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Oh yeah. The guy who wrote the music for Alias and The Incredibles. Is he that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Allow me to be the first to say...Michael GiacchinoMan, I saw that coming the second I saw he was left off the poll. I'll bet Rogue will be disappointed he wasn't around to say it first. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 James Newton Howard.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 James Newton Howard.Ray BarnsburyI KNEW you'd beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 LOL Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 David Arnold, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Ooh...Spielberg and Arnold. That could be interesting!I still think Giacchino is the most likely candidate. Spielberg himself said he was like a young John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Both of ya'll beat me to it too! LOLJames Newton Howard, for sure.I can imagine they'd jive quite well. Howard has shown he can do it all, grand and majestic, contemporary, scary, sensitive. His music is a joy to listen to, and I can imagine we'll see more great things from him in the future. His writing is classy, detail-oriented, he writes beaufiful melodies, and is flexible. He's a solid, consistent composer, much as Williams is. Waterworld is a great example. Such a big expensive project, in the vein of Spielberg, and he had to come in and write that in a short time period as a replacement score for Mark Isham's. What a fine score. Alan Silvestri is quite good too though. And David Arnold like we heard him in ID4, could be a powerhouse with Spielberg.I don't know that Spielberg will limit himself to one when Williams retires...there are many fine ones out there. But he seems to like to have a very close, strong working relationship with his composer, that's seems to be how he's most comfortable, so we'll see.Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 David Arnold came to mind, but I'm not quite sure about him with Spielberg.Working with Thomas Newman could be very intersting for him, though.Or James Newton-Howard or Harry Gregson-Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 But John Williams is immortal, so this conversation is purely fanciful hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Michael Giacchino hands down! I like JNH, but he uses synths more than Williams does, not sounding THAT Full orchestra...Media Ventures, stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I would say James Newton Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I don't care.After Williams retires.I don't think i'll be a film music fan anymore.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Time to start "getting into" your fathers piano recitals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Ah,the complete Shubert and Bach piano recitals.A whole world awaits me.K.M. Shubert,piano concerto # 2461 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 K.M. Shubert,piano concerto # 2461 Morricone, The Strength Of the Righteous (The Untouchables) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Ah,the complete Shubert and Bach piano recitals.A whole world awaits me.K.M. Shubert,piano concerto # 2461After Williams retires, I'll revisit my complete Chopin played by Rubenstein. A gem! "Star of Bethlehem" from Home Alone, John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 There will never be another WilliamsHaving said that I'm torn between Newton Howard and Giacchino, with Giacchino winning in the end Sketches on a Tudor Psalm - Fisher Tull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 before I'd let Giapoopoo score any of Steven's films, I'd have to feed him to the sharks.He's not fit to even be in Spielberg's presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I'd like to see him do a lot with David Arnold & Giacchino both. I think we'd get a new and improved Arnold (not that there's anything wrong with him now!) if Spielberg worked with him - he'd kick into an entirely new and awesome gear. I wouldn't put Nick Glennie-Smith with Spielberg, but I'm keeping him on the edge of my radar screen because I've some stuff by him I've really liked. "We shall watch your career with great interest!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 John Williams won't "retire" while Spielberg is still making movies.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I didn't know Giacchino was Italian...even if Giacchino IS an italian name (well Michael not...he's half Italian-half American?)I would have voted for Giacchino, so option 6, but I clicked on the wrong name...I voted for Thomas Newman. (althought Finding Nemo is so great!)I agree with Josh, no one is versatile like our JW.How many composers in the world would have been able to score Jaws and Home Alone?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 After Williams retires, it's time to start putting some complete releases together, so we can rediscover John's old works in their full glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 How many composers in the world would have been able to score Jaws and Home Alone?!?Hans Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Well, Zimmer isn't bad, but you MUST agree nobody is versatile as Johnny!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I was making a funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 James Newton Howard.Ray BarnsburyI KNEW you'd beat me to it! Crap! You and 78 others beat me to it! Well, I totally agree. After John, he is my favorite. His scores for Signs, Peter Pan, The Village, Treasure Planet, and Hidalgo are all brilliant.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I don't know if Spielberg would even want anyone else scoring his movies. He probably wouldn't go for the "big names" (e.g. Horner, Silvestri, Howard) - he might go for some new talent. Soneone with their own voice, because there will never be another John Williams. I don't even think anyone has the diversity of Williams to do all of the projects Spielberg does. For epic blockbusters (eg WotW) I would go for the Arnold sound (think ID4, SG and TND)For fantasy films I'd go for James Newton HowardFor quirky, feel-good comedies (CMIYC, Terminal) I'd go for Thomas NewmanFor artsy-fartsy/tender flicks I haven't decided yet...As you can see these compoasers have their strengths, but I think that Williams can do all of these, and do them extremely well.That or Michael Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Eliot GoldenthalNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 [Giacchino]'s not fit to even be in Spielberg's presence.Too late for that, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Brad Fiedel or Eric Serra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 James Horner (Casper, An American Tail, Fievel Goes to the West, A Dinosaur's Story, Deep Impact, Mask of the Zorro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Eric Serra. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 How many composers in the world would have been able to score Jaws and Home Alone?!?Hans ZimmerWell you have ironically some truth.Shark Tale and Home Alone III were scored by Media Ventures if my memory does not fail me...Which is unsetting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Basil Poledouris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Vangelis LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Alan Silvestri, Thomas Newman, James Newton Howard. Spielberg would need all these composers and then some to even come close to the talent he will not have when Williams is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Alan Silvestri, Thomas Newman, James Newton Howard. Spielberg would need all these composers and then some to even come close to the talent he will not have when Williams is gone.Indeed!~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I love James Newton Howard's work, but he doesn't seem to be of the "big theme" kind; he can deliver some really good ones, but nothing "big" yet.Poledouris is a good idea.My choice would definitely be Bruce Broughton, whose first major assignment was precisely for a Spielberg production-- the splendid Young Sherlock Holmes.He would thus finally get all the recognition (and work) he more than deserves.He can write wonderful themes, do action and suspense as well as romance and comedy, and he has a style of hiw own.Giacchino is good, but his John Williams sound-alike scores are precisely that: John Williams sound-alike scores, pastiches.You can't mistake a Broughton for anything else; his scores are as symphonic as Williams', but the style is his own.You can't mistake a Williamsy Giacchino score for a Williams score, yet it remains much too close to the model-- no ripping off, but too close for comfort.What is needed is not a copycat, but someone who can write as well, in the same idiom, yet in his own specific style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Eliot GoldenthalNeilNicely done Neil! I wish Goldenthal would get back into doing "big" projects. I'd love to have heard his take on Last Samurai or even something like The Aviator. I still play COBB and GOLDEN GATE after 10 years and enjoy them as much as I did back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRuleOfThirds 0 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Silvestri. The guy is the closest to sounding like Williams while not BEING Williams or sounding like he's ripping JW off. (Which is my problem with Michael "The Chameleon" Giacchino, who can't write anything original other than heavily-variated forms of Williams and Barry.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 I clicked on Thomas Newman since he orchestrated on one of the Star Wars movies.But Conrad Pope would have been a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Silvestri. The guy is the closest to sounding like Williams while not BEING Williams or sounding like he's ripping JW off. (Which is my problem with Michael "The Chameleon" Giacchino, who can't write anything original other than heavily-variated forms of Williams and Barry.)His music is really shallow, in my opinion. He has not written a theme that I think is beautiful. The closest thing that resembles good music is the Cast Away theme, and that was stolen from Dvorak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Have you heard Forrest Gump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 I'm surprised no-one said Howard Shore.Oh wait, no I'm not. This isn't a Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings fan site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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