Josh500 1,615 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 For me, the answer is DEFINITELY no. John Williams owes so much to Spielberg (vice versa, as well, by the way). Ever since the breakthrough score to JAWS, JW did E.T. and SCHINDLER'S LIST with him (all of those got JW an Oscar). Also, SS introduced JW to George Lucas, the creator of STAR WARS, which, of course, proved to be another landmark score and established JW as the foremost film composer of the modern age.So, without Spielberg, who knows where JW would be today??? Certainly not where he is now, but I think that, considering his massive talent, he still would have made it all the way to the top. What do you think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 I think Spielberg owes more to Williams than Williams does to Spielberg. If Spielberg hadn't continued using Williams he (Spielberg) probably might not be where he is today. JW would kick ass anyway, he'd just have written different scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 15, 2005 Author Share Posted January 15, 2005 I think none of them would have been as successful without the other. They're the perfect match. Talk about a dreamteam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 JW would kick ass anyway, he'd just have written different scores.He just would have written for different movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hypothetical polls serve no purpose...They are illogical... Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 your choices are not very good.this is a symbiotic relationship, they both have fed off each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 your choices are not very good.this is a symbiotic relationship, they both have fed off each other.That sounds like: 'There is meat in the menu again!' - uruk-hai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Williams would have been a successful film composer even if he had never met Spielberg, but without Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders... I doubt this website would exist in to honour him. Spielberg made Williams the household name he is today. Of that I have no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Spielberg made Williams the household name he is today.really it should read, Williams made Spielberg the household name he is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I think Williams made Williams the household name he is today.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Yes. And no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hypothetical polls serve no purpose...They are illogical... JustinIndeed.Spielberg and Williams helped make each other. Personally I agree that Spielberg "owes more" to Williams than vice versa. If they hadn't hooked up then Williams might have been left to score many lower profile films as Goldsmith did, or he might have hooked up with another director, or he might have thrown in the towel and dedicated his life to selling flowers. Who knows?John- who voted "how should I know"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 How much does JW owe Steven Spielberg?About three fifty.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 16, 2005 Author Share Posted January 16, 2005 How much does JW owe Steven Spielberg?About three fifty.Neil LOL Three fifty grand? Or mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 How much does JW owe Steven Spielberg?About 65-70%.So I must vote for Option #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 16, 2005 Author Share Posted January 16, 2005 I think John Williams owes Steven Spielberg more simply because it's Spielberg who keeps hiring JW. Without the movies, there would be no music. But it's nice of Spielberg to point out that without JW's music Jaws and George Lucas's Star Wars would have been only half as successful. That's inarguably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Without any doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 How much does JW owe Steven Spielberg?About three fifty.Neilsounds like what Chef's mom payed the lockness monsterthree fifty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Damn you Lochness Monster!!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I forget what episode that was. Succubus maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I thought Williams became really amazing when he started working with Spielberg. I think Spielberg brings out the best in Williams. Remember 1994-1996. The longest period without a Williams-Spielberg collaboration and, again for me, a weak period in Williams' scoring career. It seems Williams needs Spielberg to infuse him with rich musical ideas and inspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCallister 0 Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Anyone else think that this question should be reversed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share Posted January 17, 2005 I thought Williams became really amazing when he started working with Spielberg. I think Spielberg brings out the best in Williams. I agree with that 100%. Also, I like the fact that Spielberg seems to truly appreciate John Williams's talent. There's always a short featurette or interview to be found on his DVDs.Kudos to Spielberg!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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