SturgisPodmore 0 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 This is true, this is true.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Well,it's getting confusing...I can only be sure of one thing:Lemony Snickets wont win.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam 1 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 This is a hard year to predict a winner. As others have said, its a pretty wide-open field. Snicket seem like the least likely but, even that, wouldn't completely surprise me. I sitll think Azkaban probably won't win though I'd love to be wrong. Certainly its the most deserving of the movies I've seen (only 3 of them). - Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam 1 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Wow, I didn't know you made the Snickets comment until after I entered my post in. Wasn't trying to steal that from you.- Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I find it funny that nobody mentioned this bit of trivia that's been repeated in the board for the last two years. If Williams wins for PoA, then his 11-year Oscar pace will once again be fulfilled: 1971 for Fiddler, 1982 for E.T., 1993 for Schindler and 2004 for PoA.Just shocked that nobody mentioned that before. KM, why weren't you at your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I find it funny that nobody mentioned this bit of trivia that's been repeated in the board for the last two years. If Williams wins for PoA, then his 11-year Oscar pace will once again be fulfilled: 1971 for Fiddler, 1982 for E.T., 1993 for Schindler and 2004 for PoA.Just shocked that nobody mentioned that before.Too bad Jaws doesn't figure into that that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Yes, that and Star Wars are real party-poopers for that theory. But then again, I didn't come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 and Hollywood being very semetic, means Passion isn't likely to win.I agree, and think that will hurt Passion's chances of winning. I'm surprised it was even nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 People praising James Newton Howard's score and being ingnorant about Williams.I gotta say, though, if JW didn't win, I would love to see JNH get an Oscar. I think he did a superb job on The Village. Also, JNH got beaten out by JW once already, in 1993, when Schindler's List won instead of The Fugitive (although that was sort of a given). The only thing I couldn't stand would be if John Debney won for The Passion. THEN I would REALLY lose the little faith I still got in the Academy.Also, to be honest, I can't even imagine Lemony Snicket winning. Ditto for Finding Neverland. 8O P.S. I thought it was really funny going through the JNH thread. Does anyone know a Thomas Newman thread? Kinda wanna know what they have to say about John Williams!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Yes, that and Star Wars are real party-poopers for that theory. But then again, I didn't come up with it.There must be SOME algorithm for solving this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Of course I hope for Williams to win, although:1) I think Philosopher's Stone was better;2) if the Village wins, I'd be very happy for Hilary Hahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 and Hollywood being very semetic, means Passion isn't likely to win.I agree, and think that will hurt Passion's chances of winning. I'm surprised it was even nominated. :roll: The Passion will lose because it is not a particulaly notable film score, and obviously inferior to it's competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 and Hollywood being very semetic, means Passion isn't likely to win.I agree, and think that will hurt Passion's chances of winning. I'm surprised it was even nominated. :roll: The Passion will lose because it is not a particulaly notable film score, and obviously inferior to it's competition.IMO, Lemony Snicket and Finding Neverland are out, The Passion is unlikely, The Village could possibly win, PoA is very like to win. But, of course, with the Academy, you can never tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 People praising James Newton Howard's score and being ingnorant about Williams.I gotta say, though, if JW didn't win, I would love to see JNH get an Oscar. I think he did a superb job on The Village. Also, JNH got beaten out by JW once already, in 1993, when Schindler's List won instead of The Fugitive (although that was sort of a given). The only thing I couldn't stand would be if John Debney won for The Passion. THEN I would REALLY lose the little faith I still got in the Academy.Also, to be honest, I can't even imagine Lemony Snicket winning. Ditto for Finding Neverland. P.S. I thought it was really funny going through the JNH thread. Does anyone know a Thomas Newman thread? Kinda wanna know what they have to say about John Williams!!! Well the first post has a rather weak argument.The guy says Williams has already one oscar for HP1. If only it were true...Well at least someone pointed it out to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 At least I pointed that out to all of us here... and Hollywood being very semetic, means Passion isn't likely to win.I agree, and think that will hurt Passion's chances of winning. I'm surprised it was even nominated.The Passion will lose because it is not a particulaly notable film score, and obviously inferior to it's competition.Since when has that mattered to the Academy?~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I'm upgrading this to Williams most important Oscar night since 1993.He HAS to win.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 KM, won't winning for POA ruin his changes for winning for Ep III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 We should all huddle by our computers on Oscar night and post only "YIPEE!" if he wins and only "F THE ACADEMY" if he loses; see how many identical posts we can get. ~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 KM, won't winning for POA ruin his changes for winning for Ep III?He is not going to be nominated for that.1st - Its George 'I dont like hollywood' Lucas2nd - it may not be eligible for the prize. And we dont want a total original score since this one has to mix two trilogies3rd - If they didnt nominated TPM, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Also, like TPM and AOTC the ROTS score might simply not be Oscarworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 KM, won't winning for POA ruin his changes for winning for Ep III?He is not going to be nominated for that.1st - Its George 'I dont like hollywood' Lucas2nd - it may not be eligible for the prize. And we dont want a total original score since this one has to mix two trilogies3rd - If they didnt nominated TPM, well...Luke, a few holes in your theory.1st -- George Lucas didn't like Hollywood when he made the first trilogy, yet all three scores were nominated, and each film one at least one Oscar.2nd -- It can still blend the two triologies and still be eligible. I think only 80 percent of the score has to be original to the new film. Look at "Azkaban." It still had the spirit of the original with "Hedwig's Theme" and the "Flying Theme" thrown in, but still had its own voice. However, I do understand how it could be ineligible if the Emperor's theme, Duel of the Fates, the Force theme, Luke's theme, Leia's theme, Yoda's theme, Anakin's theme and the Rebel fanfare are used with prominence.3rd -- They didn't nominate "The Two Towers," yet "Return of the King" was victorious.But we'll see. It's a tough category to pick this year, if you're not biased towards any one composer or film, like many of us are here.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 It's a tough category to pick this year, if you're not biased towards any one composer or film, like many of us are here.But not if you're a member of the Academy."So, who brought the dice this time?"~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Also, like TPM and AOTC the ROTS score might simply not be Oscarworthy.(KM voive) ' Your lack of faith sounds disturbing...'I can agree with AOC but not with TPM...trumpeteer: GL had to rely on hollywood to make SW, (and he did not have the ranch or great companies - yes they existed but were more 'homemade' than anything -) and that was the great winner, see that all his post-SW movies have not fared well (except in unquestionable SFX and sound) And the prequels even not that!(please dont start with prequel bashing, not needed since ESB was a great movie and it got literally nothing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Well the Vegas odds are out, Finding Neverland leads the packPassion of the Christ is 2ndLemony Snicket is 3rdand HPPOA, and the Village are tied for 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I don't think Lemony Snicket stands a chance here. Love the books, though!~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Vegas odds?Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Las Vegas Justin, you know Sin City where you can bet on anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 How did they come up with these odds?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Pure randomness probably, but they change due to betting trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 And why do we care?Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 An excellent question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Quick Reply please. Spare us your jittery sig.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 It's getting changed as we speak. Now if you could do something about that avatar that spins and spins and spins and...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Never!Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I never use the quick reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 KM, won't winning for POA ruin his changes for winning for Ep III?If anything, I think winning for PoA will hurt his chances of winning next year with "Memoirs of a Geisha". Williams has been wanting to do this for a long time, and he'll probably pour his heart and soul into it (when has he not?....okay, well maybe Space Camp). I'm sure the score for that film will be terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Williams won't win an Oscar for Memoirs.Mark my words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I will mock your words instead!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Well the Vegas odds are out, Finding Neverland leads the packPassion of the Christ is 2ndLemony Snicket is 3rdand HPPOA, and the Village are tied for 4th. Where did you find this, prey tell?Also, like TPM and AOTC the ROTS score might simply not be Oscarworthy. That statement is false. Oh, and Williams WILL win an oscar this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 he'll probably pour his heart and soul into it (when has he not?....okay, well maybe Space Camp). Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Luke, a few holes in your theory.1st -- George Lucas didn't like Hollywood when he made the first trilogy, yet all three scores were nominated, and each film one at least one Oscar.That was nothing more but an attempt to seduce Lucas. Hollywood: "Join us, Lucas! Hollywood could use a successful film maker like you. Together we will rule the film business like father and son!"Lucas: "Papa?"----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 My sincere apologies to all those who were incensed by my Space Camp remark. It was not my intention to slight anyone with this callous and insensitive comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Oh, and Williams WILL win an oscar this year.You sound so much confident that im starting to believe it.I hope it gets true, regarless of my previous posts about your 'criteria' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Well the Vegas odds are out, Finding Neverland leads the packPassion of the Christ is 2ndLemony Snicket is 3rdand HPPOA, and the Village are tied for 4th. Where did you find this, prey tell?Also, like TPM and AOTC the ROTS score might simply not be Oscarworthy. That statement is false. Oh, and Williams WILL win an oscar this year.On the net, I did a odds searchthe odds are set so that money is bet across the board on each of the choices.Finding Neverland is basically better than even money.POA and the Village are 13 to 1 longshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam 1 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Since Morlock knows that JW will win he should put his fortune down in Vegas for POA, borrow money if he needs to, and split the winnings with Andreas. - Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 There's a scene in PoA where Hermione throws two stones, first hitting a vase, then Harry in the back of the head. Did you notice that JW accompanies the shots as the rocks fly through the window musically with piccolos/very high flutes? I think this sounds SO cool. Music is in perfect sync with the visuals. Just noticed it yesterday and wanted to let you know.Josh (who believes JW should get an Oscar for this achievement alone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Josh, Williams is one of the few people who takes the time to do something like that these days. It doesn't take talent. Just a little patience to get the timing right and orchestrated correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG-SI 10 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Ok, I listend to all on the list.(from WORST to BEST)5| Thomas Newman, Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate EventsOh my... What is this? Most annoying score since Horner's Troy.2/104| Jan A.P. Kaczmarek, Finding Neverland Cin-cin-cin-La-la-la-la-laYes, a true Oscar material............ NOT!2,5/10 3|John Debney, The Passion of the ChristWell...This is a fine one. I like it!7/102| James Newton Howard, The VillageAnother great one!But I watched the movie again - and now even music has a bad taste for me! Damn! 7,5/10John Williams, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban is by far the best one here (and best this year). And by far the most original (and it's a sequel!!)Anyway, The Village may win, but it brings up the bad memories of the film, so I can't stand it!GO WILLIAMS, GO WILLIAMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events is a fine score. I don't understand all the bashing of it.Justin - Who loves the last two tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 http://www.moviemusic.com/vote/poll.asp?id=47Interesting Results.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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