billybobab 0 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 I may be wrong, but I have NEVER read of a Mrs. Williams. HOW COME?Here we could have a Williams Jr. to carry the work after Williams Sr. dies, but instead we are freakin out about his health. Now, there can never be a perfect replacement for the real Williams, but a Jr. sure could have been a help if he were interested in his fathers work. Billybobab--who spent nearly $60 this week on AOTC, ET 20th, and MR AOTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Mr Williams has had 2 wifes and has 3 kids. One of them has even scored some low budge films. And he was the voice of Simba in the lion king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kradia 1 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 He got married twice. and I think he's got three kids. His first wife Barbara Ruick? died of a brain hemorage in the 1980's. His second wife is an interior decorator?One of my cousin's friends was working at a music store when John and his son came in. His son came in to buy rap music; and John only could shake his head in disbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Mr Williams has had 2 wifes and has 3 kids. One of them has even scored some low budge films. And he was the voice of Simba in the lion king.Isn't Augie's Great Municipal Band suposedly composed (in part) by one of John Williams sons? That not a low budget movie.... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 His son came in to buy rap music; and John only could shake his head in disbelief. I would do it too. RAP? John Williams has to have headache... I hope he at least likes his father music... if not....Luke, who knows that people don't value what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybobab 0 Posted July 5, 2002 Author Share Posted July 5, 2002 I did not even know he was married. I makes me sad though that his don likes rap. I would shake my head too...Billybobab :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Goldsmith likes rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DU Lou 1 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 I 'think' his first wifed passed away in 1977 and I 'think' he either wrote or dedicated his violin concerto because of her/to her that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Goldsmith likes rap.Jerry rules.Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 One of his sons has a rock band that has been mildly successful, but don't ask me the name of it.And it was Joseph Williams who was the SINGING voice of Simba in The Lion King.I don't know if this is an urban myth or not, but when his first wife died, he wrote a love theme in a film and dedicated it to her.Jeff -- who is surprised that many posters on the board didn't know he has kids and is married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Which film was it used in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 One of his sons has a rock band that has been mildly successful, but don't ask me the name of it.Do you mean Toto?I would say that they were more then mildly successfull.Stefancos- who wonders if their score for Dune is any good :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Williams was married a first time with singer/actress Barbara Ruick. She passed away, of brain hemorrage in 1974. The Violin Concerto was sugested by her, shortly before she died, and Williams begun work on it, right after that. They were married for 18 years, and had 3 childrens: Jennifer (a doctor), Mark (a drummer/percussionist -- he worked in The Accidental Tourist) and Joseph (singer/composer -- worked with Toto on 2 albuns and with his father in The Fury and Return of the Jedi; also the voice of Simba on Lion King and scored some low budget films).Mrs Ruick can be seen on the film version of "Carousel" (were Williams worked as orchestrator), and his available on Sony a recording of Gershwin's "O'Kay", were she sings.In June 9, 1980, Williams married a second time, with Samantha Winslow, in Boston, a photographer and interior decorator, who he had first met in Hollywood a few years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Morn, I really don't know what film it was used in. Someone said the love theme from Raiders is dedicated to her, but I thought I read in an authoritative publication a long time ago that it was a smaller film.Anyone able to help us out on this one?Jeff -- who learns something new every day: Joseph was part of Toto! Yeah, they've been more than "mildly successful!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 I think Williams son co-wrote the music being played by the band in jabba's palace, thta was in the ROTJ before the special edition, where it was replaced by Jedi Rocks.I don't think his son had nothing to do with TPM; but I could be mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 As has partly been said above, Joseph Williams was also involved in the Dune score, together with Toto I believe. He also wrote the English lyrics for the ROTJ song Lapti Nek, and possibly those for the Ewok song, too.What was his involvement with The Fury?Marian - who seems to recall that Joseph Williams also scored a sex film. Krzesany (Wojciech Kilar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Joseph Williams wrote a couple of source songs in the Fury.And according to imdb.com, it look's like he's done a number of "sex" films (softcore cable junk by the looks of it). He also has quite a thing for composing scores for films with rap "gangstas" in them, and oddly enough, Alyssa Milano (three films with her!). Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Joe did a few source songs for SpaceCamp too. It was Clapton and Joey for the source. Something gives me the feeling like "Training Montage" had something to do with Joe, but I think when I first found all this out, it just seemed like it'd be something that Joe would do, as opposed to his old man. Mark Williams is touring drummer for the band Air Supply, last I heard.John's first wife died in '74, according to IMDb, and maybe a few other sources. I wonder if the upcoming wedding to his second wife had anything to do with the sound of Empire Strikes Back or if he was just trying to nab the conductor's baton up in Boston by impressing the BSO conductor selection committee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Mr Williams has had 2 wifes and has 3 kids. One of them has even scored some low budge films. And he was the voice of Simba in the lion king.Um, can you confirm that last part? The credits list a Jonathan Taylor Weiss (of Lehigh Valley, PA ! ) as the voice of the younger Simba, and of course Matthew Broderick voiced the older one.Can you name some of these low budget films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplicon 53 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Joseph was the singing voice of Simba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamecube 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Oh I just can WAIT to be Kinggggg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Well you are right. I finally tracked down the info. Thanks for that insight. I didn't know that. Also, Joseph Williams was the lead singer of the band Toto.IMDB JW Trivia: http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Williams,+JohnIMDB entry for Joseph Williams: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Williams,+Joseph+(I) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Hester 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 here is what i know for fact...joseph was the singing voice for the older simba. he was also lead singer of TOTO after the original singer left...so no...he's not the vocalist on many of their original hit recordings such as AFRICA. he wrote the end celebration for the TPM...lucas did not like what J.W. originaly wrote so J.W. called his son to write something...he also contributed to much source music from other J.W. fims. joseph is actually a very good composer...he scored every other episode of "early edition" on cbs...i worked under him on those episodes. he scores under TV composer W.G. SNUFFY WALDEN for, most likely, other shows too that i don't know about... he has also done an assortment of cable soft-porn films...i wouldn't judge him from those films...most notably FROM DUST TIL' DAWN 2 (i think...you can rent it at Blockbuster in the States)...which sounds VERY williams and is also VERY COOL...CHECK IT OUT.-eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Hester 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 here is what i know for fact...joseph was the singing voice for the older simba. he was also lead singer of TOTO after the original singer left...so no...he's not the vocalist on many of their original hit recordings such as AFRICA. he wrote the end celebration for the TPM...lucas did not like what J.W. originaly wrote so J.W. called his son to write something...he also contributed to much source music from other J.W. fims. joseph is actually a very good composer...he scored every other episode of "early edition" on cbs...i worked under him on those episodes. he scores under TV composer W.G. SNUFFY WALDEN for, most likely, other shows too that i don't know about... he has also done an assortment of cable soft-porn films...i wouldn't judge him from those films...most notably FROM DUST TIL' DAWN 2 (i think...you can rent it at Blockbuster in the States)...which sounds VERY williams and is also VERY COOL...CHECK IT OUT.-eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Thank you for the info. Good to know someone in the know. Suddenly I am very interested in the music of Joseph Williams, and I think I shall study him and James Venable next as film composers.Just wanting to make sure Dusk Til' Dawn is the same Joseph Williams...? If it is, I would very much like to hear it, if it is anything like JW.OT: So was Joseph involved in scoring Dune? And I didn't know Eno had a part in that score either.Lots of learning tonight. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Do you mean Toto?Stefancos- who wonders if their score for Dune is any good :?:Its wonderful. The track "final dream" is fantastic. There are one or two tracks on it which are 80's naff. But the rest of it is great. There is an extended version somewhere in the U.S, but i've never seen it here in the U.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 and oddly enough, Alyssa Milano (three films with her!). Wow.I've seen 2.WOW indeed. Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Miguel Andrade and Eric Hester know their info. Listen to them, you shall, rookies! and oddly enough, Alyssa Milano (three films with her!). Wow.I've seen 2.WOW indeed. Stefancos- I've seen one or two and have one of them on tape somewhere. I taped it for the Joseph Williams music... I SWEAR! :astrosmiley: :oops: She was in love with an artist in one... oh man... I WISH!Oopps! What am I talking about? I got a hottie now! But back then... my imagination played tricks on me... :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 That is one of the freakist posts have I seen Chrusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Alyssa Milano has that effect on men. She clouds the mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Vincent 8 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 One of my cousin's friends was working at a music store when John and his son came in. His son came in to buy rap music; and John only could shake his head in disbelief. ROTFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Why did John never marry?Because he is gay? Joe, who couldn't resist that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 No, John Williams, Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Why did John never marry?Because he is gay.That's no excuse.Stefancos- who lives in a country were 2 men can get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 That's wise, but what about the influence on children? I suppose they are able to adapt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Off course they will adapt.Stefancos- who's dropping out of this topic, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Wise move, Stafancos.Jeff -- who thinks the topic has gone off the deep end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamecube 0 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Nature finds a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 The deep end is where all the fun starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 But you know were it can lead to....again. :cry: Stefancos- wondering if Morn has leaned his lesson :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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