Lurker 5 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I'm not sure if this is real or not. I read about it here.Star Wars and The Revenge Of The Sith MedleyStar Wars Album VersionThe Revenge Of The SithAnakin's BetrayalBattle Of The HeroesAnakin's DreamThe Reunion Of Anakin And PadmeWelcome, Lord VaderPadme's RuminationsGrevious Travels To PalpatineI Am The SenateGeneral GreviousPalpatine's Dark TeachingsAnakin vs. Obi-WanAnakin's Dark DeedsThe Immolation SceneThe Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny MedleyThe Birth Of The Twins Album VersionPadme's Destiny Album VersionA New Hope and End Credits MedleyA New Hope Album VersionEnd CreditsNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Wow! 22 Tracks!It would be great if it's true! Let's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 A New Hope and End Credits MedleyA New Hope Album Version Da heck?Justin - Who suspects possible foul play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Personally I'm putting my money on "fake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 The Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny Medley The Birth Of The Twins Album Version Padme's Destiny Album Version :? if this true it looks like a lot of re-hashed cues in there.Also,where's "Lament"?Hmm,we've had this before:A New Hope and End Credits Medley A New Hope Album Version End CreditsWelcome to Jurassic ParkTheme From Jurassic ParkEnd CreditsOn the upside,there seems to be a lot of concert version themes.I guess Williams needed some fresh material for his pops appearances.k.M.Whoès heart is sinking slightlyK.M.who'd like to think this is fake,but does not see someone making something up that's so boring sounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Somehow I think the track titles we all came up with last fall were more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 "Anakin vs. Obi-Wan"A little on the nose don't you think? That doesn't sound remotely close to a track title that Williams would use. "The Immolation Scene"I guess we're gonna see a mass Jedi pyre?Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I'm very far from being convinced that this is real. It would be very easy to invent a series of track-titles based on what we know about the film, "Grievous" is consistently misspelled, and "Grevious Travels To Palpatine" doesn't sound like any scene from the film I'm aware of. I won't comment on "Padme's Ruminations".The one thing lending at least marginal credence to this list is the inclusion of both "medleys" and "album versions". It's not the kind of thing you'd see on the final OST, and presumably someone trying to fake one would know that ... but it might conceivably appear on a list of cues for the CD assembly or some other such thing. As for some of the unlikely cue titles, under this scenario they wouldn't be the final album titles, but perhaps Williams' original titles, which aren't necessarily designed for public consumption.Assuming this was real, the final track-list would presumably look like this:1. Star Wars and The Revenge Of The Sith2. Anakin's Betrayal 3. Battle Of The Heroes 4. Anakin's Dream 5. The Reunion Of Anakin And Padme 6. Welcome, Lord Vader 7. Padme's Ruminations 8. Grievous Travels To Palpatine 9. I Am The Senate 10. General Grievous 11. Palpatine's Dark Teachings 12. Anakin vs. Obi-Wan 13. Anakin's Dark Deeds 14. The Immolation Scene 15. The Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny16. A New Hope and End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 The concert piece of the Revenge of the Sith theme will most likely be Track 2, the traditional placement for those.John- who still thinks this is a fake, although John's placement of the tracks makes it look more credible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Er, yeah right. "I Am the Senate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony69 0 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 hey, when someone with hyperspace listens/rips the file, could you send me the file btw? i'm not a hyperspace member nor do i think i should be spending money to find out a tad-bit more info about a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_K 6 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I agree with the majority here. These track titles are totally inconsisent with Williams' releases, SW or otherwise. Mr. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Yeah Takis's condensed version makes more sense, though it still does sound suspicious, but what is consistent is that the track order seems mixed up, presumably for a Williamsy listening experience. (Note Welcome, LV before Palp's Dark Teachings, etc.)But while "A New Hope" for the end credits is clever, it's probably too hokey for the real thing, and Dark in two titles is very unlikely, "The Revenge..." is surely a mistake, "Grievous Travels to a person" seems like awkward English, "Anakin vs. Obi-Wan" is a little bit lacklustre, and yeah, the similarities and differences between the working-title cues from the recording sessions seem inconsistent and uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Mr K? The same Mr K as the former moderator at the Jedi Council boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I have mixed feelings about the titles, but they'll probably be changed if they turn out to be real.Max-Noticing Neil changed his avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Mr.K?the same Mr K who deserted us years ago?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 6 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 "Anakin vs. Obi-Wan"A little on the nose don't you think? That doesn't sound remotely close to a track title that Williams would use.Hmm . . . I don't think that sounds too 'on the nose' for a Williams track title. I'm not saying that I think this track listing is real, but thanks to a track titled "Qui-Gon's Funearal" on the Episode I OST, I got a huge spoiler. But the phrasing (featuring the 'vs.') doesn't sound like Williams to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Well, the Sony PR confirms that the title of the major new theme/concert piece is Battle of the Heroes. This tracklist just got a jolt of credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hmm . . . I don't think that sounds too 'on the nose' for a Williams track title. I'm not saying that I think this track listing is real, but thanks to a track titled "Qui-Gon's Funearal" on the Episode I OST, I got a huge spoiler. But the phrasing (featuring the 'vs.') doesn't sound like Williams to me.Besides The Patriot's "Martin vs. Tavington"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 And besides The Towering Inferno's "The Immolation scene"K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_lizard 12 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I like "Heroes Collide" better than "Battle of the Heroes" personally. Although, I guess the image of Obi Wan and Anakin running headlong into each other is a tad ridiculous and would be pounced on by fanboys in an instant. And I like "I am the Senate". Remember that this is the movie where Palpatine declares himself Emperor of the Galaxy, so I could imagine him saying such a thing. Weren't we also told that "Lament" was recorded as a concert arrangement for the soundtrack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 And I like "I am the Senate". Remember that this is the movie where Palpatine declares himself Emperor of the Galaxy, so I could imagine him saying such a thing."Instead of announcing my candidacy for Supreme Chancellor, I'm announcing that you're all...morons."Sorry, it just strikes me as a joke. Then again, Williams has given us "'Destiny' ... 'Canneloni' ... and the Tale of Victor Navorski Reprise," so I guess anything's possible.Weren't we also told that "Lament" was recorded as a concert arrangement for the soundtrack?Recording titles are rarely maintained for album releases. "Death on the Carousel" was recorded as "Arabs Flying" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 Part of the duel from TPM was called "The Great Dual [sic]".Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Weren't we also told that "Lament" was recorded as a concert arrangement for the soundtrack?No, that was the new theme for the Big Duel. Lament is a cue from a little earlier in the fim. 5M something, while the Big Duel is reel 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 523 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Williams' original cue titles are often rather goofy. Gone Fishin' for the Episode I bongo sequence, Space Canister Caper for the Episode II asteroid sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_K 6 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Yep.... Mr. K back in the house.Anyway, I suspect that some of those track titles are merely working titles that may or may not appear on the final product.Mr. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Williams' original cue titles are often rather goofy. Gone Fishin' for the Episode I bongo sequence, Space Canister Caper for the Episode II asteroid sequence.And we will never forget the legendary Ben Creeps Around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Williams' original cue titles are often rather goofy. Gone Fishin' for the Episode I bongo sequence, Space Canister Caper for the Episode II asteroid sequence.Well, don't forget the cue when the Millennium Falcon is triggered into the Death Star by the tractor beam was called Is it a bird? on the cue sheet. Yes, they're goofy titles, but they're fun as well. And they denote Mr. Williams' great sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_lizard 12 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 How did you find out those cue names? I seem to have heard 'is it a bird' and 'ben creeps around' before, but was unaware of the others. Maybe we could put up a complete list of cue sheet names for the saga. I know of 'palpatine's tv set' and 'palpatine's big pitch' from the scoring reports of epiii, anyone care to add some more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 If this is the final tracklist, well i dont know how to picture 'Padme's Ruminations'She has that belly because she is pregnant or it is that she has a rumen?I also dont want her chewing digested material all the time.OR that the babies make ruminal crepitations....I think 'ruminate' is somewhat related to 'thinking about', but really it sounds a little strange or evil as if she was plotting... (which may be the case after all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 :? K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 So what do we all think of the main theme/concert piece title?"Battle of the Heroes"I just can't warm up to it. And that's the only official title we know so far. Way too close name-wise to, and much less cooler than, "Duel of the Fates." But I can't really think of anything more creative since it's another duel theme. What say you?Bowie - whose best creative ruminations can only come up with "The Champion of Evil," sort of a sequel-title to "Duel of the Fates" (saying which fate "won", for now) rather than a retread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I rescind my previous comment about being too "on the nose". "Anakin vs. Obi-Wan" just sounds so....bland. At least "Duel of the Fate" had some panache. But looking back over the other CDs, I realized how wrong I was. I didn't want to believe it, I thought deep down I saw a lot of cool titles, but alas... "The Droids are Captured", "Han Solo Returns", "The Trash Compactor"...etc. Makes you wanna kinda curl up into the fetal position.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I don't think Battle of the Heroes is the Anakin vs Obi Wan duel music.I think it's the track for the opening Space Battle,because it's early in the track listing above.By the time of the duel,Anakin is hardly a hero anymore.The concert version of the duel music should be"The Revenge of the Sith".Note they include score portions like Asteroid Field in the video.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Are we even 100% sure that John Williams even comes up with these titles himself?Tim - who never thought about that possibility until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Well, Mark, but the press release clearly states that "BotH" is the new concert track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 And concert pieces are always 2nd track in the prequels.Why is 3rd in this one?Unless the 2nd one is another concert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 For the record: we were NEVER told by anyone that "Lament" was recorded as CONCERT PIECE. The music will likely be part of the track called The Immolation Scene (in fact; I'm almost sure of it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Well, Mark, but the press release clearly states that "BotH" is the new concert track.The press release says this:Williams' principal THEME from the new score, entitled "Battle of the Heroes," will be featured in a music video created by LucasfilmSo it doesn't say anything really.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Well, what do you suppose ends up in the concert track from RotS? The principal theme, or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I should think that, since this list got the concert title and album placement right ahead of the press release, is pretty strong evidence that this list is correct. As I keep saying, the only weird thing about the list (besides the album version things which are obviously a prep/promo thing of some sort) are "Dark" used twice in titles, and "Revenge of the Sith" either being part of the opening track, or pushing the BotH concert piece down one -- either way it seems like a redundant title usage, and inconsistent with previous prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 From IESB.net, and recently posted on our main page:This is what the DVD contains:Chapter 1: A Long Time Ago"Star Wars Main Title" from all filmsChapter 2: Dark Forces Conspire"Duel Of The Fates" from Episode 1 : The Phantom MenaceChapter 3: A Hero Rises"Anakin's Theme" from Episode 1 : The Phantom MenaceChapter 4: A Fateful Love"Across The Stars" from Episode 2: Attack Of The ClonesChapter 5: A Hero Fallsfrom Episode 3: Revenge of the SithChapter 6: An Empire Is Forged"The Imperial march" from Episode 5: The Empire Strikes BackChapter 7: A Planet That Is Farthest From"The Dune Sea of Tatooine / Jawa Sandcrawler" from Episode 4: A New HopeChapter 8: An Unlikely Alliance"Binary Sunset / Cantina Band" Episode 4: A New HopeChapter 9: A Defender Emerges"Princess Leia's Theme" Episode 4: A New HopeChapter 10: A Daring Rescue"Ben's Death / Tie Fighter Attack" Episode 4: A New HopeChapter 11: A Jedi Is Trained"Yoda's Theme" from Episode 5: The Empire Strikes BackChapter 12: A Narrow Escape"The Asteroid Field" from Episode 5: The Empire Strikes BackChapter 13: A Bond Unbroken"Luke and Leia" from Episode 6: Return of the JediChapter 14: A Sanctuary Moon"The Forest Battle" from Episode 6: Return of the JediChapter 15: A Life Redeemed"Light Of The Force" from Episode 6: Return of the JediChapter 16: A New Day Dawns"Throne Room / Finale" from Episode 4: A New HopeSoundtrack comes with a exclusive fold-out poster featuring a montage of images from the film.The Bonus DVD contians over 70 minutes of footage and score.Hyperspace subscribers will have the first listen to a track from the Soundtrack.A promotional copy of the soundtrack will be included in the Revenge of the Sith video game booklet.iTunes will have a exclusive world premiere first listens.Retail is $18.98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 A promotional copy of the soundtrack will be included in the Revenge of the Sith video game booklet.I must say, I like David Vincent's cover art better. Is this one official, or another hypothetical cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie 1 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I like this cover... It looks old... And you can't see Darth Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I dont like it, I prefer the one here at JWFan.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 That cover doesn't look real at all. David's looks much more like what the real thing should look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Guys; this is NOT the official CD artwork. Notice the blur around our battling "heroes" feet? This is just a simple way to masque the film's logo. They clearly took the poster as the template for this work, whereas the original CD artwork department will work with the image sans title. The one made here is also derived from the poster including logo and all, but is done in a much better and more professional way.Oh; and why is Darth Vader so dark? Otherwise they couldn't insert the top Star Wars logo without giving it away. Amateurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Well, there's no "Han Solo and the Princess"....and they even included more incidental music like "The Dune Sea of Tatooine / Jawa Sandcrawler," and repetition with the Force theme being the primary theme in several of the chapters. I guess "Across the Stars" really is the only love theme of the series - "officially" at least. Ray Barnsbury-who feels bad for KM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Well there's no offical concert version of Han and the Princess. But they could have used the cue, even though it's rather short. Who knows. I'm really 50/50 on whether this thing will be any good at all.It's also disappointing that there's nothing from the Luke/Vader/Palpatine RoJ cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Well, there's no "Han Solo and the Princess"....and they even included more incidental music like "The Dune Sea of Tatooine / Jawa Sandcrawler," and repetition with the Force theme being the primary theme in several of the chapters. I guess "Across the Stars" really is the only love theme of the series - "officially" at least. Ray Barnsbury-who feels bad for KMYes,something is wrong.Williams is NOT putting a single snippet of that theme on any of his compilations/ re-recordings and concerts.It's like he doesn't like it any more or wants us to forget it.I don't think it's a "coincidence" any more like he just randomly didn't pick any cues where it appears.It should be at the end of The Asteroid Field if they use the OST version,but I bet it's going to be the concert version from the Skywalker Symphony.Another theory:He got sued by someone for that theme by someone that claimed that he ripped him off.So now he's not allowed to use it legally anymore.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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