Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I rather stupidly began with the 10th Doctor in my viewing of nuWho, so I went back to the Christopher Eccleston season. This guy is awesome. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2017 Fantastic! Pieter Boelen, Wojo and Marian Schedenig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Fantastic! And that right there is the only correct response, really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The season with Eccleston is essential because it lays the groundwork for several plot threads that pervade the Davies years, most notably Bad Wolf and Jack Harkness' immortality. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Plus his performance as The Doctor was nothing to be ashamed of either. Only one season, but still: Well done, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,342 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Fair enough, if Eccleston had been terrible we wouldn't be eagerly anticipating the start of another new series 12 years on. But he was always too 'ordinary bloke from Manchester' for me, lacking that 'eccentric/slightly mad university lecturer/professor' air that I think is essential to the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I think he may be the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 What really started to bug me with nuWho was all the prophecy bullshit. Tennant's departure episode was good and horrible at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 He will knock 4 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 But that bit was really effective. Don't tell me you didn't get some tingles when Wilf Noble knocked four times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Actually, I get the tingles when The Doctor realizes what the four knocks are, and what they mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Wilf you mean? From that moment on the whole episode is one huge cry fest for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yes, Wilf. Goeff Noble was Donna's dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The four knocks prophecy from the Tenant specials was more entertaining and shorter lived than those that followed in the Moffat years. The Doctor's name, the question, bah, that shit dragged out for years and we still don't know the Doctor's name anyways. I figured Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The crack in time that he introduced in season 5, then ignored for a few years only to get back to mentioning it in Smith's final episode. Blech... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, I Need About Tree Fiddy said: The four knocks prophecy from the Tenant specials was more entertaining and shorter lived than those that followed in the Moffat years. The Doctor's name, the question, bah, that shit dragged out for years and we still don't know the Doctor's name anyways. I figured Steve. FYI, The Doctor's name is a mathematical formula, that is completely unpronounceable to anyone who is not from Gallifrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I'm sure, but that's fucking boring. And not something anyone should ever make a story arc about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Tell that to Steven Moffatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Bring him before me and I will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 He's left, already, and damn good riddance, too. Chibnal is busy prepping the new series, for a July shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 There's an entire season and Xmas special left with Moffat.... Such Moffat haters around here and you're all wrong. How does it feel to live life being so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Who says I hate Moffat? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I'm sorry, Stu; when did you ever read the words "I hate Moffatt", in conjunction with one of my posts? Please tell me, because I'd love to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Your words and deeds! I'm not a groveling Moffat fanboy, but I love a lot of what he did during his tenure. It was certainly never a bad show under his watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Moffat has shown to have some serious shortcomings in his tenure as showrunner, and his overstayed his welcome a bit IMO. But hate is too strong a word. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I hope that in a couple of years people start to be more cleareyed about what a strong writer he was throughout his showrunning seasons. Some really really great stuff. It happened with RTD, I remember many fans had a lot nasty things to say about him by the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Great writer, not so great as a show runner. That's probably his main problem. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Agreed. Except the last Christmas special (which I will buy when it's issued with series 35), I own every one of SM's episodes as show runner. I even watched DEEP BREATH, today. Heck, I double-dipped for the Blu end-of MS set (the 50th ann. concert, at the RAH is stunning!). SM is not bad, but his tenure won't go down on DW history, as one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Even his most recent episode was just fantastic. I loved that Xmas special. The one with Nick Frost as Santa was amazing, my favorite special of the whole series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Wha'???!!!! Better than the absolute perfection, that is THE CHRISTMAS INVASION???!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The Santa one was decent. The River Song one was...well thank God for Alex Kingston. Havent even seen the last one, but I heard it was OK. I'd like for Docxtor Who to be better than OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 RTD's Xmas specials were all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: RTD's Xmas specials were all bad. Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 It's like an inverse. None of my favorite episodes of the RTD era were written by the showrunner, while all of my favorites of the Moffat era were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 So, you admit to having a problem with gays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The Christmas Invasion was weird because it showed the Doc nearly dead after a regeneration until past the halfway mark, but after regenerating into Smith and Capaldi, this did not happen. Fortunately, too, or the TARDIS would have crashed and killed the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: So, you admit to having a problem with gays? I swear I don't! Oh no, and I really don't like Mark Gatiss' writing either! (except Cold War which was brilliant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: It's like an inverse. None of my favorite episodes of the RTD era were written by the showrunner, while all of my favorites of the Moffat era were. To each his own. 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: So, you admit to having a problem with gays? Wait 'till he starts watching JN-T! 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I swear I don't! Oh no, and I really don't like Mark Gatiss' writing either! (except Cold War which was brilliant) THE UNQUIET DEAD is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Richard said: THE UNQUIET DEAD is great. I agree! It's literally the only other good episode he's written, though. His "Sleep No More" from last year is down there with my least favorite Doctor Who episodes of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The Victory Of The Daleks is gre....no wait! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Ron Cook is brilliant in THE IDIOT'S LANTERN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Thats a bad episode! Not as bad as Fear Her though, which is repulsive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yeah Idiot's Lantern is pretty terrible. The second season was pretty rough, mostly. School Reunion Girl in the Fireplace Impossible Planet/Satan Pit Those were the only good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 It's not brilliant, but Ron Cook was good, in it. Yes, FEAR HER is, simply, vile. 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The Victory Of The Daleks is gre....no wait! I like VICTORY... and I love the Arnold touches, in the score. Ian McNeice is fantastic. KBO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 FEAR HER kept me awake all night, because i was angry after watching it. It's Prometheus bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,488 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (sticks fingers in ears) not listening, not listening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 He mentioned it once, but I think he got away with it all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,342 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Yeah Idiot's Lantern is pretty terrible. The second season was pretty rough, mostly. School Reunion Girl in the Fireplace Impossible Planet/Satan Pit Those were the only good ones. Not much wrong with Tooth And Claw and the two-parter that reintroduced the Cybermen either, IMO. New Earth wasn't so bad, and the snark-off between the Daleks and the Cybermen in the season finale is a hoot. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The two parter is worth it just for that scene! Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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