COMPLETE Episode II?

[Goldsmithfan 3]

I really like the score to Episode II a lot, but is there a complete version of it? I've heard people mention it in passing, but does it really exist?

How about Episode I?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

No complete release of AOTC exists, save DVD bootlegs that people have maid, filled with soundeffects.

Same for Ep 1, however the release of the very flawed The Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition has provided us with a large amount of music that we would otherwise not have had for years to come.

However no complete releases (bootleg or legit) are out there.

[fommes 126]

By the way, I would refrain from using topic titles like that

[Goldsmithfan 3]

Well that sucks. Thanks for the information though. I'm most likely going to get the Ultimate Episode I though, because it's a lot more music than what's on the OST.

I'd at least like an Ultimate Edition of Episode II though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

The only reason the TPM UE was released was because Lucasarts had accidentally released large amounts of unreleased TPM music via their videogame releases and bootlegs were a very popular item.

Since hardly any unreleased Ep II music was released on videogames there was never any need for them to release an expanded Ep II soundtrack.

[Goldsmithfan 3]

By the way, I would refrain from using topic titles like that

Sorry if I disappointed you.

I've heard a lot about the unreleased music in video games being used to make bootlegs, but I never knew that that's why they put out the Ultimate Edition. I guess that's a nice way to stop bootleggers, even if it's imperfect.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

But you can actually use those bootleg tracks and the UE to make a very decent pretty complete TPM score.

[Goldsmithfan 3]

But you can actually use those bootleg tracks and the UE to make a very decent pretty complete TPM score. 8O

I've heard of people making more complete versions of TPM, but I didn't know what they were using to make it. I've seen art for boots using unreleased music from the video games, but I saw a lot of alternates tracks. But there are probably a lot of different versions.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Several people have made their own edits, but I think ElvisJones was probably the first back when the video games came out. His cue list seems to be the one that is always referred back to, and if I'm not mistaken he made the first full bootleg. There's probably some people here who've been around these parts longer than me and know the specifics.

The latest salvage operation is currently being discussed here.

[John Crichton 4]

Well, other than the Battle of Naboo you can make quite a good Edit of TPM with just the UE and OST. The video game files are mainly alternates, except for the BON.

[Goldsmithfan 3]

Several people have made their own edits, but I think ElvisJones was probably the first back when the video games came out. His cue list seems to be the one that is always referred back to, and if I'm not mistaken he made the first full bootleg. There's probably some people here who've been around these parts longer than me and know the specifics.

The latest salvage operation is currently being discussed here.

I remember reading that when it was first posted. It seems to have gotten a lot larger since then though. I lack the computer skills and the sources for the music to actually make an edit myself. I'll probably get the UE and make do with that and the OST.

I've heard about people having a lot of trouble with The Battle of Naboo. Is that because much of the music is still unreleased or is it just really complicated?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

In the film The Battle Of Naboo is comprised mainly of Duel Of The Fates playing over and over again, and other music from other parts of the film being edited in between.

Throughout the years a lot of the music that Williams actually composed for these scenes has been released on videogames.

The main trouble has always been figuring out what music what ment for what scene, and what the order was.

This has led to interesting discussions for over 5 years now.

[Goldsmithfan 3]

In the film The Battle Of Naboo is comprised mainly of Duel Of The Fates playing over and over again, and other music from other parts of the film being edited in between.

Throughout the years a lot of the music that Williams actually composed for these scenes has been released on videogames.

The main trouble has always been figuring out what music what ment for what scene, and what the order was.

This has led to interesting discussions for over 5 years now.

That would pose quite a problem when trying to figure out the order. I had no idea that Williams' music was butchered so bad when it was put into the film.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

It's very obvious for anyone who has seen the film.

Or it should be.

[Miz 114]

Star Wars: Racer had some nifty, under-1-minute cues many of which were unreleased at the time and have subsequently been published. However, I recall one or two alternate performances of Anakin vs. Sebulba (the one we know as 'Track 9' from the single CD) that deviate very interestingly...plus some tracks with Duel of the Fates renditions we have not yet heard (some choirless, I recall).

I sold the game ages ago, but should look to reacquiring it for these unique gems.

[Goldsmithfan 3]

It's very obvious for anyone who has seen the film.

Or it should be.

It's been quite a while since I watched the movie.

Oh, and I remember hearing the unreleased tracks on the Podracer game. I remember the track from the destruction of the Trade Federation ship most prominently.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

To me The Battle Of Naboo part of the TPM UE is completely unlistenable.

[Lurker 5]

To me The Battle Of Naboo part of the TPM UE is completely unlistenable.

That whole album is a mess and a disgrace to John Williams and his music.

Neil

[Goldsmithfan 3]

To me The Battle Of Naboo part of the TPM UE is completely unlistenable.

That whole album is a mess and a disgrace to John Williams and his music.

Neil

Hmm . . . Maybe I'd better give the movie another look (and listen!) to see if the UE is too bad to buy. They've got it at overstock.com for only $18, but hearing this kinda makes me feel hesitant about getting it at all.

[John Crichton 4]

The UE, in my opinion, is worth it for the plethora of great unreleased music. You just have to put up with all sorts of crappy editing and the BON mess, and/or be willing to fix said messes.

[nightscape94 965]

The only reason to get TPM:UE would be for two cues on the second disc which are not available on the regular edition. "Anakin is Free" and "The Tide Turns/The Death of Darth Maul". The latter has a cool section that features the eight note/triplet rhythmic part of Duel of Fates with the Force Theme layered overtop (track 28).

Tim

[Goldsmithfan 3]

The only reason to get TPM:UE would be for two cues on the second disc which are not available on the regular edition.  "Anakin is Free" and "The Tide Turns/The Death of Darth Maul".  The latter has a cool section that features the eight note/triplet rhythmic part of Duel of Fates with the Force Theme layered overtop (track 28).

Tim

I remember hearing those two cues in the film. Especially the second. I think that a part of that is on the Racer game, but I don't remember.

I think I'll get the UE whenever I get a chance. It'll probably be decades if they ever decide to do a 2 CD release of TPM like the 2 CD Special Editions of the original trilogy. Hopefully a similar release will be made for Episode II when the time comes. I just wish Williams could have scored all of the arena and droid battle scenes in Episode II. That way, when the expanded (or hopefully complete) release comes, we'd have a bit more music to listen to.

[fommes 126]

Well, the edits are unlistenable, but I guess you have no other option than to get over it if you enjoy the music regardless of the edits.