Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The special effects didn't really look updated in the version I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Fortunetly (this time) Spielberg only changed some things in the editing room, no new shiny computer made special effects were added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, how can I know for sure which version I saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Looks like you either saw the theatrical version or the Collector's Edition.When all the lights went out in Neary's house, did it cut to Neary at the power station, or straight to Neary in his truck?If it had the power station scene, you saw the original 1977 cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Did you see it on TV or on DVD?Do you live in Belgium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 It was the 1977 cut. I don't think that Turner shows re-edited movies that often.I don't live in Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 How was the quality, was it in HD?I don't live in BelgiumBe greatfull just for that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Cool.Unless there is some version that has that scene I don't know of?It didn't have the big ship in the desert, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I really love that scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Me too. Spielberg was always the best at giving us those amazing images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Cool.Unless there is some version that has that scene I don't know of?It didn't have the big ship in the desert, right?No, it didn't have that desert scene.The movie wasn't in HD, just good old fashioned uncut letter box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Then it seems you saw the original 1977 cut, very lucky find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I must watch that next time it comes on TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Needless to say, I liked the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Cool.Unless there is some version that has that scene I don't know of?It didn't have the big ship in the desert, right?No, it didn't have that desert scene.The movie wasn't in HD, just good old fashioned uncut letter box.Yes, original cut it is. Very cool.And it is indeed a great film. One of my favorites.- Marc, who needs to get TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Is there , in original cut , that"When you wish upon a star " music in the end or is it put there in the later cuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 You mean the version that plays over the end credits?I think that was only in the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 It's in the original, if you mean the quotation in the actual film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The version I saw didn't have the actual song, but did have the musical quote in John's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The version TCM has runs 132 minutes, according to their site. Which version is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Acording to IMDB the SE runs 132 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, balls.Maybe it was the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Or someone at TCM simply got confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 You mean the version that plays over the end credits?I think that was only in the SE.I just have a feeling that in the OST that quote(When you wish...) was shorter. I have to check it though.Anyway , I hate that quote , it ruined the otherwise perfect movie and perfect score.(yes, I'm very serious man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Saw Paper Moon at the Cinematque. Lovely film that never feels overly sentimental, despite plenty of space for it. That is due mainly to Ryan and Tatum O'Neil, who are one of the most lovable screen duos ever. ***1/2/****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 of course RR did not see the 77 version that version doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately, its the best version, but he one on DVD is almost as good. Its simply reedited not suffering new material that doesn't match.There is no problem with the ending, I don't know anyone whose see the ending that has a problem with it. It, along with ET, have perhaps the best ending of any JW film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 of course RR did not see the 77 version that version doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately, its the best version, but he one on DVD is almost as good. Its simply reedited not suffering new material that doesn't match.I was under the impression that there were still some prints of the original version floating around?There is no problem with the ending, I don't know anyone whose see the ending that has a problem with it. It, along with ET, have perhaps the best ending of any JW film.I think red_rabbit was referring to the "restored" scene in the Special Edition (that's not in the TC or CE), that lots of people don't like.Going by the version on the DVD, I'd say this has the best ending of any JW-scored film. But E.T.'s a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Or someone at TCM simply got confused.That's more likely.From what I've heard from RR, it sounds like they aired the 1977 cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Someone record this next time it's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 A friend of mine has the 77' version on tape. Unfortunately, in this age of DVD, the 20 year old VHS is of such shoddy quality as to make it unbearable to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I have it too, but it's an overexposed, dirty, and scratched centerscan with crap sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I presume the TCM version was letterboxed?Most of their films are, but I've seen a few pan-and-scanned (All the President's Men, The Brothers Karamazov, The Bridge on the River Kwai). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 The Bridge on the River Kwai in Pan & scan? Sacrilege! The film is flawed enough as it is- they dare to rob it of it's visual splendor!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I presume the TCM version was letterboxed?Yes.The movie wasn't in HD, just good old fashioned uncut letter box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Going by the version on the DVD, I'd say this has the best ending of any JW-scored film. But E.T.'s a close second. The version on the DVD has truly horrible edits in the credits though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 The Criterion Laserdisc is probably the closest to the original version, although it has a 5 second sequence added to it. I believe the DVD has all of the original scenes in it from the 77 release with a few added sequences. The instrumental "When You Wish Upon A Star" is played over the end credits of the Special Edition. I think. I used to know all this stuff but too the years are starting to catch up with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 There was a lengthy post on the differences, somewhere on this board. I'll try and find it...EDIT: I think this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Yes...can we please change the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 of course RR did not see the 77 version that version doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately, its the best version, but he one on DVD is almost as good. Its simply reedited not suffering new material that doesn't match.I was under the impression that there were still some prints of the original version floating around?There is no problem with the ending, I don't know anyone whose see the ending that has a problem with it. It, along with ET, have perhaps the best ending of any JW film.I think red_rabbit was referring to the "restored" scene in the Special Edition (that's not in the TC or CE), that lots of people don't like.Going by the version on the DVD, I'd say this has the best ending of any JW-scored film. But E.T.'s a close second. Regarding the ending, I was referring to the fact that Neary leaves his family to go exploring with the aliens. Spielberg has said that he regrets having it end that way.I am honestly not sure if I saw the '77 version or the SE. I'm now leaning more towards the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 The SE has the scene with the ship in the desert. You already said that wasn't in it.The SE also shows the inside of the mothership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I know of the scene inside the mothership, and I am positive that that scene wasn't in the TCM showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Then you didn't see the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I saw Notes on Scandal. One of those very good films that is axcurciating to watch. Wonderfully acted, and surprisingly well-scripted (I hadn't thought the concept wopuld lead to such a compelling film), it reminded me of The Talented Mr. Ripley and Shattered Glass, in that the main character is such a pitiable, sad, and unsympathetic character. This is the kind of film that critics say 'a tour de-force of acting' about all the time, and it is not inapropriate. Kate Blanchett is excellent, but Judi Dench has such a hard role to play, and she pulls it off remarkably well. Bill Nighy is excellent as always, as Blanchett's husband. I personally loved Philip Glass' score. While, obviously, all Glass scores sound the same, I think his style is one that works especially well in film. The score was very loud and prominant, and while in a way it might seem a bit forced, I felt it was necassery, to make the film bearable to watch. Both his scores of this year were among the best he's done, and both greatly help the films. ***1/2/****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Recap time!Week 6:El niente.Week 7:35. Children of Men (2006)Finally got around to seeing this film. It's worth it for the camerawork and long unbroken shots alone. It's awesome. And not just the shot inside the car, where the camera moves as fluidly through space as it would in an empty warehouse, but also the amazing handheld run along with Clive Owen starting at a small square, down a street, through a bus wrecked, across another street, into a building, and up three or four stories, all while warfare is exploding around him. Loved it just for that. And the story is quite good as well, although it suffers once or twice from the perspective through which it's told (an argument conveniently takes place at high volume in front of a brightly lit window for instance).I also rewatched season 5 of 24 over the past 3-and-a-half weeks. Quite good, but I still think the first 13 hours of season 1 remain untouched, with the last 4 or 5 hours of that day following for the great build-up to the finale and the two major shockers towards the end. Still, season 5 offers plenty of high-stakes drama and cool action. Even though it's all become rather over-the-top by now, there's still a great sense of fun to be had from it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 35. Children of Men (2006)Finally got around to seeing this film. It's worth it for the camerawork and long unbroken shots alone. It's awesome. And not just the shot inside the car, where the camera moves as fluidly through space as it would in an empty warehouse, but also the amazing handheld run along with Clive Owen starting at a small square, down a street, through a bus wrecked, across another street, into a building, and up three or four stories, all while warfare is exploding around him. Loved it just for that. And the story is quite good as well, although it suffers once or twice from the perspective through which it's told (an argument conveniently takes place at high volume in front of a brightly lit window for instance).I just couldn't get past all the missed opportunities, from the book. The film just completely missed the point of the book, IMO. I don't mean they just changed a lot (I have no problem with that), but it was just incredibly dumbed-down and by comparison meaningless, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I can't judge on that. I haven't read the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I believe films should be judged on their own terms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 So do I, but if you're going to make an adaptation, then it better be faithful to the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 But a film can be faithful in different ways. You can be faithful to the wirtten word, or faithful to the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Adapting books to film can't be done to the utmost truth, it's the director's interpretation that makes it to the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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