New Superman Copycats Reeve?

[AC1 3,565]

Judge for yourself:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/thumbn...ls.php?album=30

[JoeinAR 1,759]

The more I see, the more I want to see, its obvious that Singer respects his material.

[MrScratch 292]

New Superman Copycats Reeve?

...and this is a bad thing?

Jeff

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

New Superman Copycats Reeve?

...and this is a bad thing?

Same question.

[bondo 33]

If you're gonna copy, copy from the best!

[AC1 3,565]

If Singer copycats Donner's movie, newer generations like the people of Ender might be disappointed.

[bondo 33]

Too bad for them. It shouldn't pander to newer generations at the expense of a good movie

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Back to the geeky David Huxley-ish Clark Kent, are we?

Too bad for them. It shouldn't pander to newer generations at the expense of a good movie

But of course. How can it be a good movie if it's modern, or if it drifts from the original?

[AC1 3,565]

Sorry Ender, seems like you have to wait for a few generations to go by again. Singer loves Donner.

[bondo 33]

Ender, NO movie should pander to newer generations at the expense of a good movie. Naive? Sure, but why should it be modern for the sake of being modern?

[Elmo Lewis 6]

I'm not complaining yet. I was just reacting to these unexpected concessions I'll have to make. Mere anecdotes, if the result is good.

[JoeinAR 1,759]

Too bad for them. It shouldn't pander to newer generations at the expense of a good movie

and thats why I think batman begins will stink, its pandering to a newer generation, it has zero to do with Batman, the real one, not the reinvented one.

[AC1 3,565]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Anything better than that crap Schumacher came up with.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

There is only one Batman!

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

And this is Batman's special friend.

Who lives with him at the Neverlan...eeehh..Wayne Mansion.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Yes, that was always a bit... weird.

- Marc, who used to dress up as the Adam West Batman.

[JoeinAR 1,759]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

the first one was the first good one, but now he's some martial arts freak, with an attitude.

I prefer the dark detective to this reinvented one.

[MrScratch 292]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

Nolan has also stated his distaste for CGI, that and the Bladerunner thing give me some hope for this.

Jeff

[JoeinAR 1,759]

who is Nolan?

[mahler3 353]

The director, Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia and of course Batman Begins)

[deth 0]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

the first one was the first good one, but now he's some martial arts freak, with an attitude.

I prefer the dark detective to this reinvented one.

this isn't a re-invented Batman.... this IS the REAL Batman... the true Batman is a martial arts expert... and had a hell of an attitude

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

But it isn't really a "future", now is it?

-Ross, who'd go further back in the past to find models to imitate.

[bondo 33]

and thats why I think batman begins will stink, its pandering to a newer generation, it has zero to do with Batman, the real one, not the reinvented one.

I actually have faith in the new one. Based only on what I've seen in the trailer and read about, Nolan seems passionate enough about the film to make it special, and not just 'the next batman'. The casting choices are terrific, and the JNH/Zimmer combo will prove to be an interesting one, I believe. I could obviously be wrong, but the mere fact that they admit that the last 2 were terrible speaks volumes

[MrScratch 292]

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

But it isn't really a "future", now is it?

What makes you say this? Spielberg has emulated his favorite directors for all of his movies. Orson Welles repeatedly watched John Ford's Stagecoach while he was making Kane, and the two movies have a lot in common, in terms of style, yet both are masterpieces. Every artist has influences, otherwise there would be no art.

Jeff

[MrScratch 292]

".....He can take a tear that's just forming in your eye, and he can cause it to drip" Spielberg on Williams

I know this completely off topic, but I have always thought this quote was stupid. The first time I heard it, I pictured Williams jabbing someone in the eye with his baton.

Jeff

[JoeinAR 1,759]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

the first one was the first good one, but now he's some martial arts freak, with an attitude.

I prefer the dark detective to this reinvented one.

this isn't a re-invented Batman.... this IS the REAL Batman... the true Batman is a martial arts expert... and had a hell of an attitude

thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about

The director, Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia and of course Batman Begins)

yeah I know, as if this body of work just screams greatness.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

".....He can take a tear that's just forming in your eye, and he can cause it to drip" Spielberg on Williams

I know this completely off topic, but I have always thought this quote was stupid. The first time I heard it, I pictured Williams jabbing someone in the eye with his baton.

Jeff

LOL

[AC1 3,565]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

the first one was the first good one, but now he's some martial arts freak, with an attitude.

I prefer the dark detective to this reinvented one.

this isn't a re-invented Batman.... this IS the REAL Batman... the true Batman is a martial arts expert... and had a hell of an attitude

thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about

The director, Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia and of course Batman Begins)

yeah I know, as if this body of work just screams greatness.

People call him a talented director. And looking back at the previous installments, I can only see Nolan's approach as very positive. In fact, I think Batman 'needs' Nolan.

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Alex Cremers

[mahler3 353]

".....He can take a tear that's just forming in your eye, and he can cause it to drip" Spielberg on Williams

I know this completely off topic, but I have always thought this quote was stupid. The first time I heard it, I pictured Williams jabbing someone in the eye with his baton.

Jeff

Mmm never really looked at it the same way as you obviously do, what a morbid image!

I think Spielberg was referring to ET at the time and that quote succinctly sums up my feelings too.

Got your PM by the way, check your inbox!

[Elmo Lewis 6]

What makes you say this?  Spielberg has emulated his favorite directors for all of his movies.  Orson Welles repeatedly watched John Ford's Stagecoach while he was making Kane, and the two movies have a lot in common, in terms of style, yet both are masterpieces.  Every artist has influences, otherwise there would be no art.

So I gather you didn't read what came after my name in the post? There is nothing in your reply that I disagree with.

Fact remains that neither Spielberg nor Welles were making remakes of those movies.

[Morlock 9]

Link's not working for me. Can anyone give me the jist of it?

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What have I done?!

[MrScratch 292]

What makes you say this?  Spielberg has emulated his favorite directors for all of his movies.  Orson Welles repeatedly watched John Ford's Stagecoach while he was making Kane, and the two movies have a lot in common, in terms of style, yet both are masterpieces.  Every artist has influences, otherwise there would be no art.

So I gather you didn't read what came after my name in the post? There is nothing in your reply that I disagree with.

Semantics. I said what I said because I thought you were saying that "the future doesn't look bright" in response to Alex (still with me?) because Nolan was trying to emulate/imitate other directors. I did read your full post, but you said "imitate" which I guess took to be a derogatory remark about directors who emulate other filmmakers. But I see your point now in that he is merely imitating the wrong directors (which I disagree with) not that he is wrong to emulate past filmmakers in general.

Now, bonus points for whoever can translate what I just said.

Fact remains that neither Spielberg nor Welles were making remakes of those movies

Whether he's making a remake, sequel or prequel is irrelevant. A movie is a movie is a movie and any story can be told in an infinite number of ways.

Jeff

[MrScratch 292]

People call him a talented director. And looking back at the previous installments, I can only see Nolan's approach as very positive. In fact, I think Batman 'needs' Nolan.

Trust him Joe, he thinks like a reviewer.

Jeff

[MrScratch 292]

Got your PM by the way, check your inbox!  

I have nothing... did you reply to my PM or email me?

Jeff

[AC1 3,565]

"the future doesn't look bright"  

Jeff

I never said that. First you misread Ender and now me.

[MrScratch 292]

First you misread Ender and now me.

Corrected.

Jeff

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Semantics.  I said what I said because I thought you were saying that "the future doesn't look bright" (in response to Alex... still with me?) because Nolan was trying to emulate/imitate other directors.  I did read your full post, but you said "imitate" which I guess took to be a derogatory remark about directors who emulate other filmmakers.  But I see your point now in that he is merely imitating the wrong directors (which I disagree with) not that he is wrong to emulate past filmmakers in general.

Actually...

Whether he's making a remake, sequel or prequel is irrelevant.  A movie is a movie is a movie and any story can be told in an infinite number of ways.

I was saying that if any story can be told in an inifite number of ways (very true words), why follow so closely the steps of the original? Why not exploit the possibilities? Isn't that what remakes are for?

[Morlock 9]

Anyone? Jist? hello?

Morlock- who reckons he can venture a pretty good guess, but would like to be sure exactly how "New Superman Copycats Reeve?"

[MrScratch 292]

Whether he's making a remake, sequel or prequel is irrelevant.  A movie is a movie is a movie and any story can be told in an infinite number of ways.

I was saying that if any story can be told in an inifite number of ways (very true words), why follow so closely the steps of the original? Why not exploit the possibilities? Isn't that what remakes are for?

I don't think it's a matter of following "so closely the steps of the original" as there being consistency in a film franchise. It's a good thing if this new Superman film continues with and expands the storyline from the first two movies. In this regards, Singer should look to the older movies for inspiration. It's a bad thing if this new Superman movie is a virtual paint-by-numbers remake of the original. In this regard, Singer should "exploit the possibilities" and take the movie in new directions while also remaining faithful to the previous films at the same time.

Jeff

[QMM 4]

In reply to the topic there's always going to be the two people at the opposite ends of the spectrum

Shouldn't he look like Reeve?

or

Shouldn't they be trying to do something new?

[bondo 33]

He should look like Superman

[Morlock 9]

ANYONE?!?!??!?!!??!?!?!???

[AC1 3,565]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/sup...randon3-tb.html

[Elmo Lewis 6]

I don't think it's a matter of following "so closely the steps of the original" as there being consistency in a film franchise.  It's a good thing if this new Superman film continues with and expands the storyline from the first two movies.  In this regards, Singer should look to the older movies for inspiration.  It's a bad thing if this new Superman movie is a virtual paint-by-numbers remake of the original.  In this regard, Singer should "exploit the possibilities" and take the movie in new directions while also remaining faithful to the previous films at the same time.

I see. So that's where we disagree. So strongly.

[Lurker 5]

The more I see, the more I want to see, its obvious that Singer respects his material.

Neil

[deth 0]

It might be the first good one, Joe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The director is a big fan of Blade Runner.  8O

Singer loves Donner and Nolan loves Scott. The future looks bright!

the first one was the first good one, but now he's some martial arts freak, with an attitude.

I prefer the dark detective to this reinvented one.

this isn't a re-invented Batman.... this IS the REAL Batman... the true Batman is a martial arts expert... and had a hell of an attitude

thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about

The director, Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia and of course Batman Begins)

yeah I know, as if this body of work just screams greatness.

oh I don't? and why not? Where is it that Batman is NOT trained the martial arts?? If you say Batman doesn't have a sort of attitude... then well.... I just can't comment on that...