publicist 4,484 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hi,i'm Sami, longtime cynical observer and not entirely new here, but with a relaxing second job at the moment, which now allows me to pollute the mighty www. actively and with all the mean-spiritedness which you may expect from someone who co-founded the 'Deconstructing Goldsmith'-website, which enraged quite a few fellow soundtrack fans While i'm far from the most dedicated fan, i hope my love of the subject can provide a healthy debate here and there.And, i may add, although Williams doesn't occupy my top spot of favourites (this honor goes to Morricone and Goldsmith), he comes in at third place or, depending on mood, on fourth place, after Rozsa, Herrmann [insert dead golden age composer or Piero Umiliani here]........but given my discriminating taste, he's quite hight on the list!!And, last but not least, my 10 Willi-favorites:1. Empire of the Sun2. Dracula3. The Empire Strikes Back (and that's it about 'Star Wars' as far as i'm concerned)4. IJ & the Temple of Doom5. Angela's Ashes6. Born on the 4th..and so forth7. Close Encounters...8. Harry Potter 39. Jaws10. Cavatina...just kidding, let's say, 'Home Alone' for the charming part of me OK, that's just for my introduction,more soon!Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Welcome Sami! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Welcome! It is clear that your tastes will be different to those of many here - but that is great. IF everyone agreed all the time it would be pointless to post here. Hope you enjoy your stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Love your personalityHate your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Welcome!Tell us, what do you think of Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Welcome! Cynical new members always welcome! It'd be great if you posted in the sticky Members thread too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thanks to you all! @Composer Fan: What's Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Well, we agree on the number one spot. But what's Harry III doing amidst Jaws, Close Encounters and Empire of the Sun?! That's irrational of you.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thanks to you all! Â @Composer Fan: What's Petty?Read this. I was just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 @ Alex: I'm just in the mood for it @Composer Fan:tere isn't a whole lot i can add to this, because it's obviously not a honest discussion but rather an infantile attempt at 'Daniel 2' - alized trouble-stirring. Apart from that it's hard to argue that pop music (in it's broadest sense) is certainly more 'graspable' for the general public,the simpler the better.A lot of Williams early success is based on his abilty to write popular music in a symphonic idiom...so it's rather idiotic to argue that he lacks the ability to make music for the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hallo!Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hey Sami! I am a big fan of your reviews. You have had me laughing out loud many times at your reviews of Goldsmith, with your clever descriptions of his achievments and failures.I highly disagree on Poltergeist, though. That's my favorite Goldsmith!A big welcome to the boards, and glad that it was you I was arguing with over Revenge of the Sith.The description on your site of the synth Ram's horn in Timeline makes me laugh every now and then. About once a month just thinking about the review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Well, thanks for the roses! These comments, of course, never were meant seriously. It was a half joking attempt (then at the tender age of 18, that's why the english is so atrocious in some of the earliest comments) of both of us to counter the usual Filmtracks etc.-review, which i found boring and unfunny...which in my book is one of the greatest crimes a reviewer of music can make...it's MUSIC, for god's sake, you can't really describe it. That's why our prime directive was to provide soundclips and write some junk, just for the fun of it.Because of that, 'Planet of the Apes' got trashed...it's simply not entertaining music to us, but of course it's status in the film music community is more than deserved.Apart from that, i may add, that i never heap these composers to pedestals, like some here and on other fan pages. These guys are humans like all of us, and sometimes they stumble. The difference between a Williams stumble and a Goldsmith (or Morricone) stumble is, that the Williams, in all of his craftsmanlike glory, is simply boring ('Always' and the like), while the Goldsmith stumble is often so unbelievable junky, that it becomes fun again ('Mr. Baseball', 'Rent-a-Cop').And that characterizes both artists: Williams, the more classical conservative pro, Goldsmith, the more button-pushing eclectic and modern pro. Sometimes they visit their respective home territories (Williams with 'Images' or 'Black Sunday', Goldsmith with, say, 'Great Train Robbery' or 'First Knight', hence it's popularity) but in the final sum, they both found their playgrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Just make sure you keep the old reviews up and don't fix the grammar. The reviews sound more interesting, improvised and heartfelt with the slight lack of perfect english. If you ever plan on taking the site down, let me at least archive it or put up a mirror on composerarts.comIf you ever want to criticize my music, fairly, unfairly, or just with mischievous evil mind, please do! There's a feedback/review board connected to my site.The only things I've done that are "legit big business" are the Kaiju Big Battel DVDs. (Just found out I am listed on IMDB...I can die now...)Jesse-who just checked and noticed that Tom, not you, gave Poltergeist a bad review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hi!Welcome!Like your list! NOT....Seriously - whilst I disagree totally with one or two of your choices - as Batmanand said, if we all agreed it would be a boring world!Greg - who owns a Goldsmith CD somewhere.....think it was holding up the kitchen table last time I saw it......ummm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Greg - who owns a Goldsmith CD somewhere.....think it was holding up the kitchen table last time I saw it......ummm... Neil - who can't believe Greg would talk that way about Jerry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Even I am shocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Kidding guys, kidding.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Shocked, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 @Jeshopk:Well, i was able to listen to the 'Shed' stuff and, naturally, to 'The Swarm' I really couldn't mob the floor with you, it's rather competent stuff! The 'Shed' music starts off, if we deal in movie music equivalents, like the 'Hide and Seek' music from 'A.I.' and a bit of Bernsteins Guitar piece 'Fiesta' (Elmer's, mind you). I liked the feel of it...The 'Swarm' even had a certain Jerry-sound in it's second half (percussion?).Can you live by this stuff you're doing? If so, you're to be congratulated.@Greg:Ignorance is NOT a virtue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrakul 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hey, as long as publicist likes soundtracks, he's OK - despite some pehaps "heretical" tendancies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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