Complete AOTC?

[batmanand 0]

Just wondering: given that, even though we have no DVD or other audio source for ROTS, we already have a first "best attempt" at a complete ROTS score recording, is the same true of AOTC?

Basically, we have the TPM UE which, whilst imperfect, is still a good way to get a feel for most of the score - at least in the film. We also now have JackChapple's ROTS, which is as good as we are going to get until the DVD is released. But (I at least) do not have anything more than the OST for AOTC. I was not a member of the board when AOTC came out, so I probably missed most of the attempts to make a complete AOTC score from the OST, games and DVD channels.

Does such a recording exist, and is whoever has it willing to let me have a copy?

[ins 42]

there is such a release floating around soulseek

[fommes 126]

The DVD-rip is quite bad, not listenable methinks.

I believe there is a so-called unreleased album floating around (probably the Soulseek one), but it consists of tracked The Phantom Menace material (matching those in the film I think), and some cues in place, but it's worthless.

[bondo 33]

There's an expanded version, which is mostly the OST tracks chopped up and edited into chronological order and TPM music where it was tracked in the final Geonosis battle. Not too much unreleased music though

[John Crichton 4]

The DVD-rip is quite bad, not listenable methinks.

It has its moments. The main problem isn't SFX, but dialouge echo. Not to say there aren't any SFX though. The unreleased transitional fanfares and Shmi's Funeral come out rather cleanly.

[batmanand 0]

Where do I get this?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Try the trading board, look for Chris Chrushercomix.

[batmanand 0]

Thanks - have contacted him via PM.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

"Just don't tell him anything personal. Believe me, you don't want Chris Chrushercomic inside your head."

[Mr_K 6]

LOL

AOTC seems like the most mysterious SW score. It's like the flavor of ice cream at Baskin Robins that nobody tries, but always looks at thinking "Hmmm... that looks good, maybe I'll try it next time."

I just have a gut feeling that there's a lot more to this score than what was released, both on the OST and the film. I'm more curious about what Williams had originally written for this score than for TPM. AOTC (film) is just so ridden with tracked-in music from TPM that it's hard to decipher what kind of score this movie would have had were it scored the way Williams wrote it. Who knows how much unreleased material there is? From my understanding, even the final moments of the score were different in the recording sessions, with a huge bombastic piece in place of where the Imperial March is now. There is very little source material in games and the like for AOTC unreleased cues, unlike TPM which was abundant.

If SW scores had an outcast, AOTC would be it. It's like a kid who's been picked on, teased, beaten-up, and neglected. Thanks to big bullies GL and Ben Burtt.

Mr. K

[JoeinAR 1,759]

If SW scores had an outcast, AOTC would be it. It's like a kid who's been picked on, teased, beaten-up, and neglected. Thanks to big bullies GL and Ben Burtt.  

and John Williams, he's more to blame than either of those two.

[mapsljp88 0]

The original trilogy scores weren't so chopped up in the films. I do remember that tracked music was used in ROTJ.

[Jeshopk 8]

There was one bit of tracking in ESB, too. But nothing nearly as distracting and monolithic as the constant editing and tracking in the prequels.

Why did they just not edit the films before scoring? Is that not elementary?

[Mooz0r 23]

As someone said, there is a release going round Soulseek - but it's terrible really - It's a straight-out audio rip from rear channels with shoddy fading in/out and no editing effort gone into it really. I suspect there are better versions around with the video game music edited in , if not - maybe this is a project for me to get myself into sometime

Btw, the dialogue "echo" is simply a result of what you get in the rear channels - a convoluted sound deliberately placed in the rear channel to try and match the acoustics of the room on screen... for example, if they were in a warm large-ish room with curtains and carpet - you would hear muffled dialog in the rear,... if they were in a huge hall, you would hear reverb in the rear, etc..

[Mr_K 6]

If SW scores had an outcast, AOTC would be it. It's like a kid who's been picked on, teased, beaten-up, and neglected. Thanks to big bullies GL and Ben Burtt.  

and John Williams, he's more to blame than either of those two.

If you're referring to the quality of the score, I would have to agree. AOTC was a weak effort compared to the scores for the other films. If JW's age ever showed in a recent project, AOTC would be a prime example. It just didn't have the energy, thematic or otherwise, that this film needed. Don't get me wrong, a weak Williams score is a hell of a lot better than most composers' best work- but for SW, this was disappointing. I'm so hoping an expanded edition with unreleased cues could help save and turn around my perception of this lacking entry.

I mean, come on! This is the Clone Wars. That scene alone should have been the saving grace of the whole score- instead tracked in music from TPM??? (Shakes head)...

Mr. K

[bondo 33]

I actually thought AOTC's score was quite strong, sans the TPM tracks. The duality of the romantic music and the mysterious, brooding Separatist music was interesting. It was also a good bridge between the sap-happy music of TPM and the tragedy of ROTS. A 'complete' score release would do nothing but good

[Mr_K 6]

A 'complete' score release would do nothing but good

Oh, hell yeah. Definitely. This score really needs it, quite frankly.

About that other stuff "duality of the romantic music and the mysterious, brooding Separatist music was interesting. It was also a good bridge between the sap-happy music of TPM and the tragedy of ROTS"- I agree that the concert piece "Across the Stars" does exactly that. The score in the movie proper is lacking however.

Mr. K

[fommes 126]

It just severy lacks a climactic finale cue for the Clone Wars etc. It builds up to nothing. Well to tracked TPM material, and it was precisely the material from TPM I liked the least.

[bondo 33]

I agree on that. Every major setpiece battle in the 5 other Star Wars film has been scored with original music (Naboo, Coruscant, Yavin, Hoth, Endor) except the Geonosis battle, and that's one of the most important ones!

[Lurker 5]

A 'complete' score release would do nothing but good

And cure insomnia.

Neil

[Kendal_Ozzel 32]

HAHA THATS SO FUNNY BECAUSE THE SCORE IS BAD!!!!1!!111!

:roll:

[Mr_K 6]

It's not "bad". It just needs (or needed) better representation both on film and on the soundtrack.

The quality of the music is good, it's the presentation that is in poor shape.

Mr. K