TheRuleOfThirds 0 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 A little blonde girl is the star. The tagline contains the words "they're" and "here." Spielberg directed. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hmmm. Theyr'e HereThey're Already HereStars a little girlStars Tom Cruise and a little girlDirected by Tobe HooperDirected by Steven Spielberg.Me thinks you is reaching. Not really much of a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Directed by Tobe HooperThat's open to debate.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 One has ghosts.One has aliens.Music by Jerry Goldsmith.Music by John Williams.One is Horror.One is Sci-Fi/Horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 One has musicOther has musicCoincidence? Brilliant LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hmmm. Stars Tom Cruise and a little girlSo many Katie Holmes joke possibilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 officially its not open for debate, Tobe Hooper directed Poltergeist, and it shows.There are only a handful of shots that seem like Spielberg, the rest don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Poltergeist is not a horror story. It's a love story. See Jerry Goldsmith DVD for details. He even says it on the DVD. What was he on at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Poltergeist is Jerry's best score.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 officially its not open for debate, Tobe Hooper directed Poltergeist, and it shows.There are only a handful of shots that seem like Spielberg, the rest don't.Obviously you've been watching the film with one eye closed, Joe. The film looks as much a Spielberg film as any other. Considering the fact that Spielberg personally designed every single shot in the film (down to the framing), I don't see how it couldn't help but look like a Spielberg film.You had to know I'd pop up when you drop chum like that, pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRuleOfThirds 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 I think I read in the Poltergeist liners that Spielberg directed at least 80% of Poltergeist. He'd bicycle back and forth between soundstages for Poltergeist and ET, working on each. The only reason Jerry was hired was b/c JW was doing ET. Poltergeist and ET were released within a week or two of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 He'd bicycle back and forth between soundstages for Poltergeist and ET, working on each.E.T. made at Universal. Poltergeist made at MGM. Pretty long bicycle ride. Unless he had E.T. in front basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Poltergeist is Jerry's best score.K.M.one of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 He'd bicycle back and forth between soundstages for Poltergeist and ET, working on each.E.T. made at Universal. Poltergeist made at MGM. Pretty long bicycle ride. Unless he had E.T. in front basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeruid 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 In fact, in the Potergesit's Souldntrack Album, Goldsmith states that he never talked to Tobe Hooper, he discussed everything with Spielberg. In fact, Hooper did not take part in editing the movie. One more clue, Michael Kahn was the editor of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 "E.T." wasn't shot on the Universal lot, it was shot at the Laird studios. As for the bicycling thing, "Poltergeist" was already into post by the time "E.T." was shooting, I believe.The films did come out one week apart exactly.Goldsmith on multiple counts stated that he worked exclusively with Spielberg and not Hooper. Spielberg oversaw the entire post on "Poltergeist" as well, with ILM and his editor Michael Kahn (Carol Littleton cut "E.T." since Spielberg had Kahn on "Poltergeist," certainly not a coincidence...) And while I'd kill to hear a Williams "Poltergeist" score in an alternate reality, Spielberg couldn't have chosen anyone better than Goldsmith for the "Poltergeist" assignment. Goldsmith even above Williams had a mastery of scoring horror films and his blend of aggressive and gentle sounds in "Poltergeist" is outstanding.And Joe's still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Don't forget Spielberg drew ALL the storyboards. And that's what Hitchcock would do, leaving the camera work and actual shooting to a DP. Spielberg also wrote the script and was on the set for camera setups. He also undoubtedly talked to the cast to develop their characters and acting.So Spielberg did all pre and post production, not just post.Keep in mind that Spielberg had other people do storyboards for Jurassic Park, so its almost like he's giving up much of the visual directing to someone else in that case.I can feel Tobe's contribution in the film. Tobe haunted the film. But it's still Spielberg's beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,791 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The 'mummys' in the swimming pool are so Indy-like that is has to be Spielbergs idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Don't forget Spielberg drew ALL the storyboards. And that's what Hitchcock would do, leaving the camera work and actual shooting to a DP. Spielberg also wrote the script and was on the set for camera setups. He also undoubtedly talked to the cast to develop their characters and acting.So Spielberg did all pre and post production, not just post.Keep in mind that Spielberg had other people do storyboards for Jurassic Park, so its almost like he's giving up much of the visual directing to someone else in that case.I mentioned Spielberg's having designed the shots above, so I'm certainly aware of it. But he did not personally storyboard the film in the sense that he didn't draft it by hand. He always sits with conceptual artists (who work from Spielberg's ideas and thumbnails) to get his visuals on to paper. But he did not draw any storyboards on "Poltergeist," "Jurassic Park" or any of his films. But the shot design is the point here, not who put pencil to paper. The conceptual artists are drawing at Spielberg's behest, so the shots are his. And just because a director doesn't operate the camera (Spielberg does some times), this doesn't make a shot any less his either. You can be sure Spielberg collaborates and listens to other's suggestions, but he does not give up the "visual directing" to any one."Poltergeist" was Spielberg's picture before the screenplay (which he wrote and then had rewritten by another team of writers). It's his concept, and an important concept that has more roots in his own person than "Indiana Jones," "Jurassic Park," etc. The film is as personal as "Close Encounters" and "E.T.," since it stems from his own imagination wholly and has a lot of personal references to his childhood. This alone makes this a Spielberg film through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The 'mummys' in the swimming pool are so Indy-like that is has to be Spielbergs idea.And the corpses in the swimming pool and in the house look a lot like the "Raiders" corpses since special effects artist Craig Reardon designed and constructed both sets of dead bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Indeed. I've never seen him so happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 "E.T." wasn't shot on the Universal lot, it was shot at the Laird studios. As for the bicycling thing, "Poltergeist" was already into post by the time "E.T." was shooting, I believe.The films did come out one week apart exactly.Goldsmith on multiple counts stated that he worked exclusively with Spielberg and not Hooper. Spielberg oversaw the entire post on "Poltergeist" as well, with ILM and his editor Michael Kahn (Carol Littleton cut "E.T." since Spielberg had Kahn on "Poltergeist," certainly not a coincidence...) And while I'd kill to hear a Williams "Poltergeist" score in an alternate reality, Spielberg couldn't have chosen anyone better than Goldsmith for the "Poltergeist" assignment. Goldsmith even above Williams had a mastery of scoring horror films and his blend of aggressive and gentle sounds in "Poltergeist" is outstanding.And Joe's still wrong unofficially I find it hard to believe that in the space of a few weeks two near perfect scores were released to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 [i find it hard to believe that in the space of a few weeks two near perfect scores were released to the world.It was a wonderful time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ah yes...the summer of '82. The year Reagan finally remembered where he lived and Monica Lowinsky was still a twinkle in Bill's eyes or was that Bull's eyes. Anyway after standing in line for E.T. and after 4 days of bulk eating, I finally grew 10 chins. Those queues paid off handsomely. Spielberg finally got his revenge on me but not for long Stevie boy.Hitch, tampering with the final edit of WOTW to include a one-second porn shot. HAHAHA. Sweet! No one seen Tyler Durden's projector-splicing in FIGHT CLUB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 But he did not draw any storyboards on "Poltergeist," "Jurassic Park" or any of his films.Actually, he does draw complete storyboards sometimes, with terrible art. Then each panel is drawn nicely by others so it looks pretty. In Jurassic Park, the storyboard Artists did not work from Spielberg artwork. They came up with shots that looked "Spielbergian." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Awalt 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 It's all down to semantics, but Spielberg's sketches are not storyboards by definition. He draws out his idea in thumbnails or guides the sketch artists through his ideas verbally and they (being professional draftspersons) create what are technically the films storyboards. So I maintain that Spielberg isn't a storyboard artist, but the important point here is that he designs all of his shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The 'mummys' in the swimming pool are so Indy-like that is has to be Spielbergs idea.And the three strong female leads in this film are akin to the three strong male leads in Jaws. And the kidnapped little girl is like the kidnapped little boy in CE3K.Poltergeist is viewed by some as the key to all of Spielberg's earlier films.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrakul 0 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Poltergeist is Jerry's best score.K.M.One of my favourite Goldsmith scores is "Explorers"; don't know why I love it so much - I just do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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