Alien: The Original Jerry Goldsmith Soundtrack

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

I have the 'Spanish Bootleg', but since i dont have the movie, and i only have seen it once, i'm not cappable of assembling the complete score as Jerry Goldsmith intended.

Has anyone done this?

Thanks

[Jim Ware 428]

Yes.

I don't have any of my notes to hand, but the complete score with alternates easily fits on a single disc.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

Just get the single disc DVD, it has the complete original isolated score as Jerry meant it for the film. I also have the Silva Screen CD, which has some alternate takes from what is heard in the isolated score - try to track that one down.

[Jim Ware 428]

Everything on the Silva CD is on the isolated track, with the possible exception of The Alien Planet. That may be a combination of two different versions or another alternate.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

Everything on the Silva CD is on the isolated track, with the possible exception of The Alien Planet.  That may be a combination of two different versions or another alternate.

I can't remember "Acid Test" in the isolated track, but I'll listen to it again to find out.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Are the alternates in the SP bootleg rightly named (i mean they are true alternates, and i should use the one in the movie)?

Seeing your responses, it may be that the film versions are the alternates and the unused cues are the original Jerry intended?

Which mix looks more whole?

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

aw i cant decide...

the film version contains the 1st versions of the Goldsmith music or not?

Plus there are unused cues i think, that are on the alternates disc, i dont know where they go chronologically

i put the tracklist of the Spanish bootleg in case anyone can help, so we have the same nomenclature

Track Listing  

DISC ONE

1. 20th Century Fox Logo

2. Main Title - The Nostromo

3. Hypersleep

4. The Landing

5. The Derelict

6. the Jockey

7. The Egg Chamber

8. Face Hugger

9. Main Title (from "Freud")

10. Study's

11. Serenata No. 13 "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik"

12. Ejecting Kane's Body

13. Search

14. Brett's Demise

15. Charcot's Show (From "Freud")

16. Desperate Case (From "Freud")

17. Search (version 2)+

18. The Droid, Part 2

19. The First Step (from "Freud")

20. Parker & Lambert's Demise

21. The Corridor

22. "I Got You"

23. The Shuttle

24. Breakaway

25. Symphony No. 2 "The Romantic"

DISC TWO - The Rejected Themes

1. Main Title - The Nostromo (version 2)

2. Hypersleep (version 2)

3. Derelict (version 2)

4. The Jockey (version 2)

5. The Jockey (version 3)

6. The Egg Chamber (version 2)

7. The Egg

8. The Egg (version 2)

9. Back to the Nostromo

10. Face Hugger (version 2)

11. Acid Test

12. Looking for the Face Hugger

13. The Shaft, Part 1

14. The Shaft, Part 2

15. The Droid, Part 1

16. Detonation Sequence

17. The Shuttle (version 2)

18. Breakaway - "Signing Off" (version 2)

19. "Signing Off"

20. End Titles (version 2)

21. The Alien Suite (bonus track)

[Marian Schedenig 5,520]

The film contains versions Goldsmith never greenlighted, including stuff from Freud. The original CD contains the original score as Goldsmith intended it, and that's what appears on the first track of the old iso score too. The second, "alternate" track contains rewrites Goldsmith did after his original cues, plus the Freud stuff etc.

Marian - who must re-burn his CDs as they have become unplayable.

The Ghost and the Darkness (Jerry Goldsmith)

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

So i must use the version 2 in the Composer's cut, instead of using the Goldsmith music in the Director's butch?

So the tracklist would be like this (using names from the bootleg): (please help me with the correct order, i put some just seeing its place in the second disc, with missed parts from the movie)

1. 20th Century Fox Logo

2. Main Title - The Nostromo (version 2)

3. Hypersleep (version 2)

4. The Landing

5. The Derelict (version 2)

6. the Jockey (version 2) <- here i use version 2 or 3?

7. The Egg Chamber (version 2)

8. The Egg (1 or 2?)

9. Back to the Nostromo

10. Face Hugger (version 2)

11. Acid Test

12. Study's

13. Ejecting Kane's Body

14. Looking for the Face Hugger

15. Search (version 2)

16. Brett's Demise

17. The Shaft, Part 1

18. The Shaft, Part 2

19. The Droid, Part 1

20. The Droid, Part 2

21. Parker & Lambert's Demise

22. The Corridor

23. "I Got You"

24. Detonation Sequence

25. The Shuttle (version 2)

26. Breakaway - "Signing Off" (version 2)

27. End Titles (version 2)

[Marian Schedenig 5,520]

Sorry, I have no idea what the "version 2"s on your disc are.

Marian - whose CDs are made only off official sources in this case.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

yarrgh...

I think DISC ONE contains what one would call the isolated track (scott's cut)

disc two contains the rejected score and some alternates...

Luke, who found another 2CD set, which has the film score with freud but without classical pieces and the main title is the correct, not film version.

Manuel, totally lost ????

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Manuel.

I'm no expert on the subject of the Alien score.

I have a bootleg CD that i'm happy enough with and have not spend much time trying to sort out the whole issue of what Jerry intended and what ended up in the film and were.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

Marian - who must re-burn his CDs as they have become unplayable.

CDs can become unplayable? :?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Marian means CDr's.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Well, don't be to relaxed:

CD Rot

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

No! You're lying! You're lying! Back in the 1980's, they told us CDs were invincible dammit! INVINCIBLE!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Back in the 80's VHS outsold Betamax and V2000.

So what did they know?

[Marian Schedenig 5,520]

CDs can become unplayable?   :?

Yes.

Marian means CDr's.

Yes.

CD Rot

Yes.

Marian - agreeable.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

What i needed, to go off topic :roll:

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

what blow to Jerry... :roll:

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

mr goldsmith must be rolling in his grave...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Why?

I have the OST of Alien which he produced + a bootleg which has the complete score as he intended it in the film.

So till Varese releases a Deluxe Edition i'm more then set up.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

a bootleg which has the complete score as he intended it in the film.

Now i know why you didnt care. Heck, you have it!

Could you post names and track times so i can check with mine?

Pleeeeease

[Lurker 5]

Luke, all of your problems would be solved if you bought this DVD. There are so many bootlegs out there and alternates it's difficult to piece together what you have since we can't actually listen to the music. Having the DVD will help. Trust me.

Neil

P.S. Note that the DVD I linked to is the original ALIEN DVD, the one with the isolated music tracks, and not the 2003 disc with the "Director's" cut.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Is version 2 with the isolated tracks?

I found this:

And the extras are:

Aspect Ratio: 16:9.

Spanish and English menus

Original threatrical trailer

Deleted Scenes

Outtakes

Ridley Scotts' commentary

Art and photo gallery

Original Story Boards

Soundtrack

Additional music

But i have to buy it along with predator... but it is cheaper 17 euros....

[Lurker 5]

Yes, that DVD has the isolated music track.

Neil

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Do beware if you get the region 2 version the music will play 4% to fast.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

banghead

well at least, it has it (very rare...)

Neil you have to tech me that teleport-post trick

[Marian Schedenig 5,520]

Does the R2 really have the iso score? Remember, many R2 version of R1 iso releases omit the iso scores.

Marian - who doesn't remember.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

It does, don't worry.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Do you think i can trust you? The incarnation of evil?

[Elmo Lewis 6]

You can't. Steef just posts to increase the post count.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

I find...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

that remark...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

insulting.

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Always glad to lean a shoulder.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

I found...

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

that remark...

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

enlightening.

Hey, it works!

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Always glad to lean a shoulder.

[Jim Ware 428]

Alien - Complete Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

1.Main Title (original version) - 4:09

2.Hypersleep (original version) - 2:45

3.The Landing - 4:29

4.The Alien Planet - 6:27+

5.Egg Chamber (original version) - 2:34

6.Face Hugger (original version) - 3:04

7.Acid Test - 0:33

8.Studies - 1:03

9.Overhead - 0:53

10.Kane's Funeral - 1:48

11.The Cat - 0:58

12. Brett's Death - 2:05

13.The Shaft - 4:24

14.The Droid - 3:25

15.Parker's Death - 1:48

16.The Corridor - 1:02

17.I Got You - 1:53

18.Sleepy Alien (original version) - 3:02

19.Breakaway (original version) / End Credits - 6:03

Additional and alternate cues:

20.Main Title (revised) - 4:07

21.Hypersleep (revised) - 2:43

22.The Alien Planet, part 2 (revised) - 3:21

23.Egg Chamber (revised) - 0:57

24.Face Hugger (revised) - 3:04

25.The Corridor (alternate) - 2:21*

26.Sleepy Alien (revised) - 3:08

27.Breakaway (revised) - 3:01

Total time: 75:18

This assembly includes all of the original Goldsmith material from both isolated tracks.

The isolated score track repeats 'The Landing' twice. They're both exactly the same take.

+Although this sequence contains around eight and a half minutes of music in the film, some of it is tracked from the revised Main Title. I've removed the tracked material.

*I'm not sure what this is. It isn't in the finished film and does not appear to be sequenced correctly on the isolated track. It may be an alternate version of 'The Shaft, Part 2'.

I'll see if I can dig out my breakdown of the original album.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

In the spanish boot, the corridor alternate is called "detonation sequence" . Unused cue? (but put in the iso track for completism?

[Jim Ware 428]

It doesn't really fit the detonation sequence or the corridor sequence, but it does use motivic material from the 'Shaft' sequence. I can't really say anything about it's true origins without seeing the original sketches and parts.

[fommes 126]

Manuel, I'm interested in your results, could you please post your track list of how you arranged the cues from your Spanish bootleg (with the names as they appear on that one)? Many thanks!

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

No problem

Disc One: Composer's Cut

1. 20th Century Fox Logo

2. Main Title - The Nostromo (version 2)

3. Hypersleep (version 2)

4. The Landing

5. The Derelict (version 2)

6. the Jockey (version 2)

7. The Egg Chamber (version 2)

8. The Egg (version 2)

9. Back to the Nostromo

10. Face Hugger (version 2)

11. Acid Test

12. Study's

13. Looking for the Face Hugger

14. Ejecting Kane's Body

15. Search

16. Search (version 2 - in Jim Ware's cuelist, this is part of Brett's demise)

17. Brett's Demise

18. The Shaft, Part 1

19. The Shaft, Part 2

20. The Droid, Part 1

21. The Droid, Part 2

22. Parker & Lambert's Demise

23. The Corridor

24. "I Got You"

25. The Shuttle (version 2)

26. Breakaway - "Signing Off" (version 2)

27. End Titles (version 2)

Disc Two: Director's Butch

1. 20th Century Fox Logo

2. Main Title - The Nostromo

3. Hypersleep

4. The Landing

5. The Derelict

6. the Jockey

7. The Egg Chamber

8. Face Hugger

9. Main Title (from "Freud")

10. Study's

11. Serenata No. 13 "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik"

12. Ejecting Kane's Body

13. Search

14. Brett's Demise

15. Charcot's Show (From "Freud")

16. Desperate Case (From "Freud")

17. Search (version 2)

18. The Droid, Part 2

19. The First Step (from "Freud")

20. Parker & Lambert's Demise

21. The Corridor

22. "I Got You"

23. The Shuttle

24. Breakaway

25. Symphony No. 2 "The Romantic"

Bonus Tracks:

26. The Jockey (version 3)

27. The Egg

28. Detonation Sequence

29. Signing off

[King Mark 2,924]

I want to know something.I saw that Alien DVd with iso score for 15$ today.I'm not sure to buy it.I want to know if in the unreleased/alternate cues that have never been released before,there is more soft melodic stuff like the cue "Hypersleep",or just more of the frantic scary action music?

About 15 years ago,in a period of stupidity,I sold several of my score c.d.'s to a used record shop.Alien was one of them

K.M.

[GoodMusician 53]

I was curious. Did you ever figure out the track listing of the Spanish bootleg? Mine has 31 tracks and I'm not sure what to do with it as I've never even seen the movie... lol

[artyjeffrey 20]

So i must use the version 2 in the Composer's cut, instead of using the Goldsmith music in the Director's butch?

So the tracklist would be like this (using names from the bootleg): (please help me with the correct order, i put some just seeing its place in the second disc, with missed parts from the movie)

1. 20th Century Fox Logo

2. Main Title - The Nostromo (version 2)

3. Hypersleep (version 2)

4. The Landing

5. The Derelict (version 2)

6. the Jockey (version 2) <- here i use version 2 or 3?

7. The Egg Chamber (version 2)

8. The Egg (1 or 2?)

9. Back to the Nostromo

10. Face Hugger (version 2)

11. Acid Test

12. Study's

13. Ejecting Kane's Body

14. Looking for the Face Hugger

15. Search (version 2)

16. Brett's Demise

17. The Shaft, Part 1

18. The Shaft, Part 2

19. The Droid, Part 1

20. The Droid, Part 2

21. Parker & Lambert's Demise

22. The Corridor

23. "I Got You"

24. Detonation Sequence

25. The Shuttle (version 2)

26. Breakaway - "Signing Off" (version 2)

27. End Titles (version 2)

I actually ended up buying the "Legacy" edition of the Alien DVD, ripping both the composer's proposed score AND the "actual" score (although that is up for debate), and then putting them on separate cds. What's so confusing at times is that the original released soundtrack album has some of the same tracks, only their placement in the film is different than what Goldsmith intended, and the track titles have been swapped here and there! A sad mess, and with Goldsmith's passing, can a real record label pay him some respect and release this thing legitimately for all of us?!

My track list:

Composer's Score-

01. Main Title - The Nostromo (Album Version)

02. Awakening

03. The Landing

04. The Alien Planet

05. The Egg Chamber

06. The Face Hugger

07. Acid Test

08. Ripley Confronts Ash

09. Search for the Face Hugger

10. Departure

11. Kane's Funeral

12. False Alarm

13. "Here Kitty-Kitty"...

14. Brett Finds Jonesy

15. Brett's Demise

16. Mother

17. The Shaft

18. Ash Attacks

19. The Fate of Lambert & Parker

20. Self-Destruct Sequence

21. Saving Jonesy

22. Ripley's Run

23. "I Got You..."

24. Stowaway

25. Showdown

26. End Titles (Album Version)

"Actual" score (again, very debatable!):

01. Main Title-The Nostromo (Screen Version)

02. Rise and Shine

03. The Alien Planet

04. Kane's Discovery

05. The Face Hugger

06. Acid Test

07. Demise of Dallas

08. Ash Revealed

09. Breakaway

10. Final Confrontation

11. End Title (Screen Version-- Symphony #2 ["Romantic"] by Howard Hanson)

[artyjeffrey 20]

If you listen closely during playback of the "composer's score" version, you can hear background studio comotion in between takes, and right before the track intended for the final showdown between Ripley and the Alien, you can hear someone (maybe Lionel Newman?) sort of pepping everyone up before the take.