Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 A New Hope - Empire Strikes Back - Return of the Jedi?Empire Strikes Back - Return of the Jedi - Star Wars?Star Wars - The Empire Strikes Back - The Return of the Jedi?Wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 None of the above. It was asked at a different thread which scores were more enjoyable in original album order than film chronological order, when the two orders differ significantly. And I mentioned how some people rip albums without designating track titles in the file names. Now I don't use iTunes to listen to music, I use Winamp. This means the files would get played in whatever order I set the playlist at, which is usually corrected to be by Path/Filename. Thus the tracks would get played in alphabetical order by track title. And so I thought it would be an interesting study to listen to a film score in such an order, using the two disc 1997 Star Wars set as follow:20th Century Fox FanfareThe Battle Of YavinBen Kenobi's Death/Tie Fighter AttackBinary Sunset (Alternate)Burning HomesteadCantina BandCantina Band #2The Death Star/The Stormtroopers Destruction Of Alderaan The Dune Sea Of Tatooine/Jawa Sandcrawler The Hologram/Binary Sunset Imperial Attack Landspeeder Search/Attack Of The Sand People Main Title/Rebel Blockade Runner The Millenium Falcon/Imperial Cruiser Pursuit The Moisture Farm Mos Eisley Spaceport Princess Leia's Theme Shootout In The Cell Bay/Dianoga Tales Of A Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force The Throne Room/End Title The Tractor Beam/Chasm Crossfire The Trash Compactor Wookiee Prisoner/Detention Block Ambush Meh. I got to about the main title before I got bored, put my songs back in order, and started listening to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Roar. As much as I like Indy 4, nothing in there tops this as my favorite piece of film music so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 The Mummy.Currently, I'm giving Munich a straight listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Roar. As much as I like Indy 4, nothing in there tops this as my favorite piece of film music so far this year.Yeah, "Roar!" is pretty great. I need to buy that from iTunes, but the last time I tried, I couldn't get the program to work -- and was too lazy to put any effort into it.As for my own listening, I did a Sixth Sense/Unbreakable/Signs triple feature. All three are pretty great, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 the Spy Who Loved Me.I finally heard roar from cloverfield, and Im more convinced than ever that Michael Giacchino is not the major talent this board tends to think, if James Horner is a thief then MG borrowed roar from every bad godzilla movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 the Spy Who Loved Me.I finally heard roar from cloverfield, and Im more convinced than ever that Michael Giacchino is not the major talent this board tends to think, if James Horner is a thief then MG borrowed roar from every bad godzilla movie.I think it is supposed to be an homage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 yeah I've heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 American Beauty by Thomas Newman.A Good Year by Marc Streitenfeld.I rather like Streitenfeld. His 19 minute score for A Good Year is rather nice and relaxing. It fit the film well when I saw it in theaters. His American Gangster score is pretty decent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I didn't notice any score in A Good Year. And again, American Gangster has a very nice theme. And Roar! is a very fun piece. It's not the second coming exactly, but it's pretty darn sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Sahara - Clint MansellThe main action theme (or whatever it was) is pretty good. Almost Bond-like to my ears. The rest is unmemorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Sahara - Clint MansellThe main action theme (or whatever it was) is pretty good. Almost Bond-like to my ears. The rest is unmemorable.THe score was orchestrated by Arnold's collaborator - Nicholas Dodd - so it's probably the reason why it sounds like that. The question remains, whether Arnold's sound is in fact Dodd's sound, or whether Dodd just imitated Arnold's sound there at request of the studio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Well, Mansell doesn't read or write music, so one can assume that his orchestrators have an inordinant amount of influence on the music. I liked the Sahara score, particularly the main theme, which is a fantastic Bond melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Mansell doesn't read or write musicHow does he get away with that? I can't conceive how a composer could even function with such ignorance of their own field. But obviously they do.Sahara - Clint MansellThe main action theme (or whatever it was) is pretty good. Almost Bond-like to my ears. The rest is unmemorable.THe score was orchestrated by Arnold's collaborator - Nicholas Dodd - so it's probably the reason why it sounds like that. The question remains, whether Arnold's sound is in fact Dodd's sound, or whether Dodd just imitated Arnold's sound there at request of the studio...Good to know. The plot thickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Well, Mansell doesn't read or write musicHow is it possible to be a composer then, if you can't actually compose music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Well, Mansell doesn't read or write musicHow is it possible to be a composer then, if you can't actually compose music.Morlock said, he can't read nor write... not that he cannot compose since he obviously can. Thesedays you just have to have synthesizer at your home and with some imagination/talent you are able to compose music... For example, although I cannot read notes, I have composed several cues by using the simplest program I found. They sound like sheet, but it gave me lot of fun. Having little bit more talent and an aid from more skilled colaborator can result in preety good score- like The fountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Sahara - Clint MansellThe main action theme (or whatever it was) is pretty good. Almost Bond-like to my ears. The rest is unmemorable.THe score was orchestrated by Arnold's collaborator - Nicholas Dodd - so it's probably the reason why it sounds like that. The question remains, whether Arnold's sound is in fact Dodd's sound, or whether Dodd just imitated Arnold's sound there at request of the studio...It's Dodd's sound. Arnold doesn't know much about orchestration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,680 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 If Dodd does most of the orchestration, what does Arnold do... just bash a melody into the keyboard and let Nick do the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Orchestration isn't arrangement. Arnold does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nicholas Dodd probably should get more credit than Arnold. I was listening to the film score channel I have, and it was playing African Rundown from Casino Royale, it credited Dodd. Recently, when I was importing CD's, I put it The Musketeer and it credited Nicholas Dodd for everything. Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 That's the final word on it, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Arnold doesn't know much about orchestration.Well after getting the chance to speak privately to David Arnold a number of times at Ubeda last year, you're very wrong on that point henry. We talked about orchestration amongst many other things and the guy certainly knows his stuff better than most would like to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Sorry. What I mean is that Arnold does not have the skill to orchestrate fully. I know that he directs many aspects of his orchestration, but Dodd is the one that knows how to put it all to paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Sorry. What I mean is that Arnold does not have the skill to orchestrate fully. I know that he directs many aspects of his orchestration, but Dodd is the one that knows how to put it all to paper.Yeah, that pretty much seems to be the case.The impression I got was that he would be able to put it down on paper if he needed to.( maybe not as good as Dodd, I don't know ? )but he obviously leaves it to someone he feels understands how to balance an organic orchestra better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You were in Úbeda?Did we meet by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nicholas Dodd probably should get more credit than Arnold. I was listening to the film score channel I have, and it was playing African Rundown from Casino Royale, it credited Dodd. Recently, when I was importing CD's, I put it The Musketeer and it credited Nicholas Dodd for everything. Hmm...You must be joking... They credit Dodd only because he conducted the piece, not because he composed it.You were in Úbeda?Did we meet by any chance?Marc, you're still looking for your wallet, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Didn't I meet you two at the same time in that café in Madrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Didn't I meet you two at the same time in that café in Madrid?Do you mean Marc and me? If so, then yep. The world is small... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You were in Úbeda?Did we meet by any chance?We sure did man I guess you first knew me as 'silent reader', Then as fate would have it, we sat next to each other at the concert Do you remember that idiot 2 rows in front who wouldn't stop messing with his camera?All you could hear was beep bloody beep !It's incredible how fast the time has gone since last year, I had a tremendous time there.I was suprised I didn't see any of you guys at the party on the last night though, how come?Anyway, hi to the other jwfan Ubeda gang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Didn't I meet you two at the same time in that café in Madrid?Do you mean Marc and me? If so, then yep. The world is small... Oh, I thought Marc was asking you if you had been in Úbeda. My bad - I just assumed Marc was suffering temporary amnesia somehow. Occam's razor, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You were in Úbeda?Did we meet by any chance?We sure did man I guess you first knew me as 'silent reader', Then as fate would have it, we sat next to each other at the concert Do you remember that idiot 2 rows in front who wouldn't stop messing with his camera?All you could hear was beep bloody beep !It's incredible how fast the time has gone since last year, I had a tremendous time there.I was suprised I didn't see any of you guys at the party on the last night though, how come?Anyway, hi to the other jwfan Ubeda gang Are you coming this year too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Are you coming this year too?I'm not too sure yet Chris, I doubt it.I'm swamped with work at the minute and the cash situation is a little grim.Although, there are plenty of areas around here I could make a little extra pocket money by providing some executive hand relief.I'd really like to hear the Shadows of the Empire suite though, so you never know man.I'll have to decide soon though as it's less than a month away.Are you going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Are you coming this year too?I'm not too sure yet Chris, I doubt it.I'm swamped with work at the minute and the cash situation is a little grim.Although, there are plenty of areas around here I could make a little extra pocket money by providing some executive hand relief.I'd really like to hear the Shadows of the Empire suite though, so you never know man.I'll have to decide soon though as it's less than a month away.Are you going?Yes I am. I am in Spain on July, 6th to visit Malaga and Granda before the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 You were in Úbeda?Did we meet by any chance?We sure did man I guess you first knew me as 'silent reader', Then as fate would have it, we sat next to each other at the concert Do you remember that idiot 2 rows in front who wouldn't stop messing with his camera?All you could hear was beep bloody beep !It's incredible how fast the time has gone since last year, I had a tremendous time there.I was suprised I didn't see any of you guys at the party on the last night though, how come?Anyway, hi to the other jwfan Ubeda gang Ah yes of course!I still have that video of the guy who air conducted the Silverado suite all the way through. There was a party though? I don't remember it. I think we all got a little snoozy over at Robert Townson's listening party (making us completely miss the soccer match that ended up being held at the same time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 ChristineI love John Carpenter, and while the movie isn't necessarily one of my favorite John Carpenter movies, it definitely is one of my favorite Carpenter scores. I love the mood his best scores set; I drag 'em out and listen to 'em around Halloween (which today admittedly is not), because for me, they give me a feeling similar to that sun-disappearing-over-the-horizon, chill-in-the-air feeling that trick-or-treating always gave me. None of them more so than -- duh -- Halloween. But Christine isn't far behind, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Galaxy Quest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Heh, and I just watched the movie yesterday. That's a really fun score, monothematic but still good. Probably my favorite David Newman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Metal Gear Solid 4 : Guns of the PatriotsThe Midi often bogs it down, but I like it as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordBeautiful score. As big a Cave/Harvey fan as I am, I'm not sure why it took me this long to listen to the score. Shame on me.And by the way, self: why haven't you watched the movie yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,999 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Standard Operating Procedure by Danny ElfmanI'm actually still listening to it. It is one the best scores of the year, easily. I know there wasn't much competition so far (not counting KOTCS, of course). Surprisingly listenable music, given the subject matter. Some Glass minimalism moments but so much more satisfying. Nice (yes, nice) electronics seamlessly merged with lovely orchestral writing. Elfman's most mature and elegant film work yet. Apparently, there is still some great music being written for films. This is a kind of score I've been waiting for. Highly recommended. Oh, and some adaptation of Serenada Schizophrana material in a couple of tracks. Which is fine, because I love this work. I'm surprised so few people seem to talk about it. It's terrific!Karol - now waiting for Wall-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 found an unmarked cdr took it with me to Dave's It had pieces from Star Trek the Motion PictureStar Trek The Wrath of KhanStar Trek The Search for SpockandStar Trek First Contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoxden 0 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Medal of Honor: Frontline - Michael GiacchinoIt's been a while since I first listened to it. I'd forgotten about the 'Panzer Attack' theme in 'The Rowhouses' and the final version of the MOH theme at the end.Amazing Grace - David ArnoldGood but not great. The music doesn't really stand on its own apart from the movie. It does have some nice parts, though. 'Triumph' ends the score nicely with the main theme finally played by the whole orchestra.As You Like It - Patrick DoyleThe highlight of this for me is 'Violin Romance'. It's just completely gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 As You Like It - Patrick DoyleThe highlight of this for me is 'Violin Romance'. It's just completely gorgeous.I've been meaning to get that for a while; I loved the music in the movie. Loved the movie, too, for that matter.My most recent listen is The Happening, which I like a lot, too. The Shyamalan/Howard combination is obviously one touched by gold; hopefully, it'll keep going for a while. (And hopefully, M. Night can get his s--t together again and get back to making movies people love.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yeah, the Violin Romance from As You like It is quite attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Delta Force & Wargames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 You got Delta Force already? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I get stuff from Intrada quick. When they announce Monday and ship Tuesday I usually have it by Saturday.Now that Varese has switched to the postal service I get my orders much quicker from them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 As You Like It - Patrick DoyleThe highlight of this for me is 'Violin Romance'. It's just completely gorgeous.I've been meaning to get that for a while; I loved the music in the movie. Loved the movie, too, for that matter.I never really warmed up to the score. And the movie just seemed an arbitrary collection of (brilliantly acted) slow scenes to me. Perhaps I should give it a second try, but so far it's easily my least favourite Branagh movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 The movie was pleasant but forgettable to me. Sleuth is certainly the least likable of his movies. The Magic Flute was probably the strangest project...but that came off rather well, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I haven't seen either of those yet. Checking the IMDb, those two, Swan Song and Listening are the Branaghs I have yet to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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