Willy 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 What soundtracks are - in your opinion - superior to the films they were composed for?The one the springs first to my mind is The Final Conflict. I conjures up beautiful images that are nowhere to be found in the movie (although I don't think the movie is as bad as a lot of people claim).Another one would probably be The Portrait of a Lady. I don't consider Kilar's score to be a masterpiece, but it features some hauntingly beautiful melodies that are a lot more enjoyable than the movie (which - again - I don't completely dismiss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Troy - the original Yared version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Star Trek: TMPMoonrakerSupermanDamien: Omen IISupergirlFirst BloodRambo: First Blood Part IIRambo IIISW: TPMSW: AOTCSW: ROTSJudge DreddJurassic ParkThe Lost World: Jurassic ParkJaws IILost In SpaceThe Mummy ReturnsThe list is endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 The Star Wars-prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Jaws IIGood one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 King Solomon's Mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrakul 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 High Road to China was on TV just yesterday, and totally falls into this category; it's a great score though (IMO) by John Barry. Steef is correct; the list is endless - but even with really good films, you can't underestimate the importance of music. Apparently watching Star Wars with the temp score was very different to watching it with the final JW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 How did you do that - watch Star Wars with the temp tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Titanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 BatmanThe Mummy ReturnsVan HelsingA View to a KillThe World Is Not EnoughDie Another DayStar Trek V: The Final FrontierCaravan of Courage: An Ewok AdventureThe Muppets' Wizard of OzAnd while I haven't seen the film, it's reputation tells me that The Avengers would qualify as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Titanic Citizen Kane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Titanic Citizen Kane! No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 You talkin' to me?You talkin' to me?You must be talkin' to me, cause there's no-one else here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Titanic Citizen Kane! even though I know you're joking........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Troy - the original Yared versionI wholeheartedly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 BatmanThe Mummy ReturnsVan HelsingA View to a KillThe World Is Not EnoughDie Another DayStar Trek V: The Final FrontierCaravan of Courage: An Ewok AdventureThe Muppets' Wizard of OzAnd while I haven't seen the film, it's reputation tells me that The Avengers would qualify as well.Really? That score got bashed pretty bad in the Giacchino thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 No matter. The film is horrible. The score is better as music than the movie is as a film. And I think some people may be confused: Giacchino did NOT write Ashanti's little R&B numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban of course. HookPeter PanI can't think of anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Peter Pan. Those scores are equal to their movies.The Terminal - I really didn't like this movie very much. Catherine Zeta Jones' character turned out horribly, and it was quite boring IMO. Good score, though.Can't think of a great deal of others specifially.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 All of Jerry goldsmith's scoresK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 All of Jerry goldsmith's scoresK.M.That's the problem with Goldmisth in my opinion in terms of popular recognition (opposed to, for instance, John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 All of Jerry goldsmith's scoresK.M.Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrakul 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 How did you do that - watch Star Wars with the temp tracks?I didn't; but, I've read numerous accounts of people who were screenings of Star Wars (steven SPielberg, Brian DePalma etc.) who said that JW's score made a HUGE difference to the film. I understand that Brian DePalma was very negative, and openly mocked the film, but that Steven Spielberg was very supportive of George Lucas. Apparently some minor changes were made tothe film after these screenings. But, no one was laughing at the film once the sound was mixed, and JW's score was added. I've read that it felt like a very different film. Such is the power of music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 All of Jerry goldsmith's scoresK.M.I agree. Most of his movies don't stand the test of time. Basic Instinct was a cool movie to watch in the '90s, but it just seems so ... slimy now. And The Omen is increasingly becoming a boring movie to watch. But I never tire of listening to the score. I only watch the movie to hear the choir whispering when the dog creeps through the house.And I agree on the Star Wars prequels. I am finding myself listening to Revenge of the Sith a lot. And I can't get enough of the last 30 minutes of The Phantom Menace. But watching the movie .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 All of Jerry goldsmith's scoresI agree. Most of his movies don't stand the test of time. Basic Instinct was a cool movie to watch in the '90s, but it just seems so ... slimy now. And The Omen is increasingly becoming a boring movie to watch. First you say you agree with Mark, who was very categorical about it, that "all his movies" are inferior. Then you say "most of his movies". What is it? "Most" or "all"?!----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I didn't mean it categorically.More like "generally".I mean Dennis the Menace,Mr.Baseball,Mom and Dad Save the World...ect..and the list goes on and on....I know,some are good moviesChinatownThe OmenPoultrygeistPattonAlienBasic Instinct...K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 PoultrygeistThey are Heeeeeere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I mean "all." Even Planet of the Apes doesn't hold up on subsequent viewings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 SW: AOTCSORRY Stefan, this is one case where the film as wretched as it is, is superior to the score.I agree with Jeff and Mark, in almost everycase JG's scores are better than the films. JNH's the VillageBrian Tylers' Darkness FallsPino Donaggio's Tourist Trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 SW: AOTCSORRY Stefan, this is one case where the film as wretched as it is, is superior to the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Troy - the original Yared version That's for damn sure. I agree with all the above, save the following cases- Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Peter Pan Azkaban the movie is not as perfect as Azkaban the score, but they fit each other like a glove. Peter Pan is a very good movie with a very good score. The Terminal - I really didn't like this movie very much. Catherine Zeta Jones' character turned out horribly, and it was quite boring IMO. Good score, though. I liked the movie, and liked the score.All of Jerry goldsmith's scores Mostly, yes. There are a few exceptions (Chinatown, L.A. Confidential , The Great Train Robbery, and Patton come to mind), but by and large. Angela's Ashes reaches emotional peaks lacking in the movie. Stepmom manages to escape the total falseness of the movie. I think The Fury is a major example. JW took an urban and rather trashy looking film and gave it such a textured, elegant and classy score which is far better than the movie. Zimmer gave The Ring, a sucky and ugly looking horror film a rather elegant score, which, despite the fact that it was cliche piled on cliche, turned out a whole lot better than the movie did. He also gave Muppet Treasue Island a great piratey theme that the film didn't deserve. (Although that's a lot of pirate movies, I guess) Patrick Doyle wrote what is in my opinion one of the greatest love themes ever for Great Expectations, when the movie totaly failed at creating any real emotion there (other than obsession, maybe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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