David Coscina 3 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I love the music of John Williams. He's tops in my books. But there is a couple of Goldsmith scores that get pretty close to my top 5 all-time fave scores, one of which is First Blood. Although the subject matter between First Blood and Raiders couldn't be more dissimilar, I always found them to be pinnacles of each composer's scoring careers in the action genre. And to my mind, First Blood has stayed with me longer. For me, it's more muscular, has greater range of emotion, and one of my all time favorite themes. Beautifully orchestrated, wonderfully scored and some excellent rhythmic moments in the percussion and brass. Awesome sound to by the National Symphony Orchestra.Raiders was a score that I adored as a kid. But other than the appeal of the main theme, I don't find myself listening to it that much any more. And that's not because it's inferior writing. There's some exceptional moments. The Truck Chase is great although compared to "Over the Edge" cue from First Blood, it isn't quite as exciting. Maybe the differences in approach to film scoring by each composer has something to do with that. Williams' style of scoring is often reactionary, like that of a filmgoer- Goldsmith accented underlying things about a scene- he got underneath it to emphasis the entirety of the situation rather than the literal gestures. obviously this is but a theory of mine and not a declaration. I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about these two scores compared to one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm sorry as you stated yourself the scores are so dissimilar that I might have well been asked to vote wether I prefered Russian Caviar to Peking Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I know how you feel. Sometimes I'm not sure what my favorite score is. It comes down between Superman - The Movie and Star Trek - The Motion Picture.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Both are scores that are exactly what their movies need.If they succeed at that it's irrelevant which one is "better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 BTW Neil, TMP blows Superman out of the water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm sorry as you stated yourself the scores are so dissimilar that I might have well been asked to vote wether I prefered Russian Caviar to Peking Duck.That's from YOLT! BTW Neil, TMP blows Superman out of the water!Just to make a joke, Jaws does that to any other score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 BTW Neil, TMP blowsSo Superman is the better score? Thanks Steef!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 That is very funy Neil.Or it was when I did it a few weeks back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 That is very funy Neil.Thank you, Steef! I thought of it myself.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Thank you, Steef! So, you like the abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 you like tOnly with sugar and lemon.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Don't change the subject on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Don't changeWhy should I? Most here seem to like me just the way I am.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Apart from your obvious dyslexia, you leave little to be desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 obvious dyslexia, you leave littleThank you, Yoda.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Yo Thank you, da Neil.Going hip hop, Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Fo' shizzle, Stizzle.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Ok you lost me Bulk-head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Spam, spam, wonderful spam!- Marc, who has not heard First Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I never heard the First Blood outside the film but I'm sure Superman has been more significant to the movie world. I mean Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 You should look out for First Blood, Alex.Like you said it's not as famous as Raiders, but it's a solid score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Is it as good as part II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 You know that one?It's a more subdued score, since first Blood isn't an all-out action film like First Blood Part II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Part II is on top of my wishlist. In fact, I already have a copy in my basket over at Intrada, but I'm waiting to earn some more money and see if there's some more interesting CDs there so I can get a few in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Well definatly get Rambo: First Blood Part II (if it's the Silva Screen release).It's what I consider the first modern (Goldsmith) action score. Be sure you don't play it in the presence of anyone with a pace maker or a high blood pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I don't really like the Rambo scores that much.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Opinions are like assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 What a comparison...Be careful of your statements my very young apprentice, one could say you have experience i 'what-you-mentioned'. Oh the Neil-Stef duel was funny. But moderators should do a better example for us simple members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Neil and Steef, My gosh you had me in fits!~Sturgis, who, um, likes Raiders . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 My poll was "which do you prefer" not "which is better". I never said First Blood was better than Raiders, only that, as time has passed, I find myself still listening to First Blood much more than Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Neil and Steef ! ! Oh the Neil-Stef duel was funny. Mr. Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The score to First Blood goes against the genre. It's much more emotional and filled with effective suspense cues that the blindfolded would never guess comes from a so-called "idiot-action" flick. Rambo: First Blood Part II is the weaker score because it lacks the original's heart, but on its own, it's highly enjoyable on album. From the first track, you know you're in for something unusual but exciting and thrilling from those weird macho synthy pulses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 tell you the truth i havent heard any score from Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 tell you the truth i havent heard any score from Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I prefer Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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