NeejaHalycon 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Can I get a big whiskey-tango-foxtrot here? What kind of a film has an entire album of music "inspired by" it (ugh) released almost three months before the actual movie? I know Disney wants to squeeze every last cent out of it, but this is ridiculous. Do they sense Harry Potter and Zathura breathing down their necks? I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Well, did you hear it at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Narnia is going to receive three different soundtrack releases. Check out this link:http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/fs/2005052...1705282300.htmlI think it is absurd but money is what counts for the record company and Walt Disney right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Absolutely. They're not satisfied with overcharging for one CD - they just have to find an excuse to do it 4 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 What does Pop-rock and christian music to do with this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I hope nothing - but then again my hopes aren't high for this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Mine actually were...until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 What does Pop-rock and christian music to do with this?!Lewis was a strong advocate for Christianity when he wrote these books, which has led many in the community (and outside) to see these stories as an allegory reference of that faith. Therefore, the films are being embraced by Christians as a movement in the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Just forget what I wrote here, I don't want to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Sorry, Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Disney also sought (and received) church approval on the script.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Disney also sought (and received) church approval on the script.NeilAnd that is extremely ironic given the fact that the Christian community has spent years encouraging Disney movie boycotts. Smart move on Disney's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Are the books so religious?It just seemed to be a fantasy thing.Why does the chuch go against Harry Potter and not this one?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Because the basis of the Potter series is witchcraft (not debating to what degree right or wrong), which of course is against basic Christian theology. Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean they are on equal playing fields. The same comparisons have been made with Lord of the Rings, however Lewis took the allegory a bit further than Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Why does the chuch go against Harry Potter and not this one?...That sounds like a discussion for someplace else.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 oops.DONT BAN ME, for chrisshake! (j/k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-Don-Jinn 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 And that is extremely ironic given the fact that the Christian community has spent years encouraging Disney movie boycotts. Smart move on Disney's part.It's not so much the "Christian community" as a whole as it was the Southern Baptist convention. The SBC recently voted to discontinue their boycott of Disney. Within the SBC and Baptist churches, however, there was, as can be expected with any large group of people, there were those who didn't agree. My brother-in-law is an SB pastor and loves Disney and never went in for the boycott. But, yes, smart for Disney to get some church input.Are the books so religious? Not religious, per se, but extremely metaphorical. If you know Judeo-Christan dogma, you can make the connections. Otherwise, it's a pretty good children's fantasy. I'm looking forward to the film and score, although I'm not expecting a LOTR-type score.First post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 ............. At any rate, I am very much looking forward to hearing what Williams comes up with. Harry Gregson, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 heh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 And that is extremely ironic given the fact that the Christian community has spent years encouraging Disney movie boycotts. Smart move on Disney's part.It's not so much the "Christian community" as a whole as it was the Southern Baptist convention. The SBC recently voted to discontinue their boycott of Disney. Within the SBC and Baptist churches, however, there was, as can be expected with any large group of people, there were those who didn't agree. My brother-in-law is an SB pastor and loves Disney and never went in for the boycott. But, yes, smart for Disney to get some church input.Are the books so religious? Not religious, per se, but extremely metaphorical. If you know Judeo-Christan dogma, you can make the connections. Otherwise, it's a pretty good children's fantasy. I'm looking forward to the film and score, although I'm not expecting a LOTR-type score.First post!Welcome to the boards.You made your post before, mine so the "...." was not aimed at you. It was just intended to get things back to the origins of this thread which is the music. When I used the term Christian community, that was basing the SBC as the biggest part of the equation. Just didn't want to discriminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-Don-Jinn 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Welcome to the boards.You made your post before, mine so the "...." was not aimed at you. It was just intended to get things back to the origins of this thread which is the music. When I used the term Christian community, that was basing the SBC as the biggest part of the equation. Just didn't want to discriminate. Thanks for the welcome and thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Because the basis of the Potter series is witchcraft (not debating to what degree right or wrong), which of course is against basic Christian theology. Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean they are on equal playing fields. The same comparisons have been made with Lord of the Rings, however Lewis took the allegory a bit further than Tolkien.Actually, Tolkien didn't use allegory in LOTR. Or any other of his books for that matter. In his preface to LOTR, he voices his disgust for allegory, and he also does so in many other places apart from LOTR.Lewis created his entire series allegorically. Not that that diminishes them in any way.I am eagerly awaiting this movie, and especially the score.EDIT: I really need to get a new avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Narnia's Christian origins are well-known. As a Christian, but also a man of letters and a great proponent of the value to be found in pre-Christian mythology, Lewis designed his Narnia series to work as both a stand-alone Children's fantasy, enjoyable to all, and a way of introducing explicitly Christian themes such as human captivity to sin and death, divine self-sacrifice-as-redemption, crucifixion and resurrection, the Fall, the Last Judgment, etc ... even subtle parallels to Christianity's relationship to Judaism and other religions. Compare to Pullman's "Golden Compass" series, which was designed by its atheist author with the opposite end in mind, as a kind of anti-Narnia: a stand-alone fantasy meant to introduce children to explicitly ANTI-religious themes such as the tyranny of religion and the obsolescence of God (specifically that the Judeo-Christian God is good and truly dead). That series of books has ALSO been greenlit. It will be interesting to see the contrast in their reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I'm am unconfortable with the though of this...Christian discussion. Are you sure it's necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Because the basis of the Potter series is witchcraft (not debating to what degree right or wrong), which of course is against basic Christian theology. Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean they are on equal playing fields. The same comparisons have been made with Lord of the Rings, however Lewis took the allegory a bit further than Tolkien.Actually, Tolkien didn't use allegory in LOTR. Or any other of his books for that matter. In his preface to LOTR, he voices his disgust for allegory, and he also does so in many other places apart from LOTR.Lewis created his entire series allegorically. Not that that diminishes them in any way.I am eagerly awaiting this movie, and especially the score.Let me clarify. When I said the same comparisons have been made, I am speaking about others making the connection on their own. I have had several conversations with friends who are Lord of the Rings fans that believe Tolkien intended the ring to represent temptation in general. Seems to me there is a fine line between allegory and inspiration connected with symbolism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Tolkien speaks clearly against any form of allegory in his foreword to The Lord Of The Rings.As far as i'm concerned the discussion stops there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Here's the exact quote:Tolkien, LOTR Foreword: ...I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence... I think that many confuse "applicability" with "allegory"; but one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Yep, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 And equalling the Ring to "temptation" might well be considered "applicability."Marian - who believes some of Tolkien's applicability is intentional. I.e. he didn't use allegories, but he certainly did include "themes" that were important to him. Heart of Darkness (Bruce Broughton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, Tolkein was a strong Catholic, and his books are based not on allegory but on themes important to his religion. ~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The theme of self-sacrifice for the sake of others is a very strong catholic theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yes, and I think it would now be wise to go back to musical discussion. ~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Move along, move along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrchDork 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 So back to the music... what does everyone think Harry Gregson-Williams will come up with for the score? I'm looking forward to it very much... especially after watching Shrek 2 last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I'm am unconfortable with the though of this...Christian discussion. Are you sure it's necessary?Oh, Steef. What are you trying to do, scare us? You sound like my mother. We've known each other for a long time. I don't believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus pocus. We're discussing a film of potentially incredible historical significance, you're talking about the boogie man. Besides, you know what a cautious bunch we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Raiders?~Sturgis, seeing the gun tossed into Indy's suitcase and the cut to the tarmac in his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 For a second I thought it was Kirk's "I need my pain" speach from Star trek V.But yeah, it's Raiders...Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Raiders?~Sturgis, seeing the gun tossed into Indy's suitcase and the cut to the tarmac in his mindWhat tarmac? - Marc, who should edit instead of delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Yes because I deleted my response and it was hard to write it again: I just know there was a plane, normal or sea.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Brilliant matte painting.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Huh? I thought it was real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Whoa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 That can do that in CGI nowadays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Please, sit down before you fall down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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