robthehand 3 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 When I watched the Indiana Jones DVDs (the movies - I didn't check the special features) I noticed several "glitches".- In Raiders of the Lost Ark, just before Indy is lowered down into the Map Room, after he drops the staff, the DVD pauses (no sound, just a frozen image) for about 10 seconds.- In Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, just before they arrive at the sacrifice (right after the "Death Trap" part), it does the same - pauses for about 10 seconds.- In Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, during the "blasphemy" conversation, it pauses for a few seconds in the same way. Also on that DVD, there is a part where Indy and Sallah are talking where the image goes incredibly "fuzzy", very blurred.Anyone else have any of these problems? If so - is there anything that can be done about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I'm sure these are the layer changes, nothing to be alarmed about.You might wanna invest in a better quality DVD player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 The first two are most definitely the layer changes. I don't recall where the layer change was in LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 9, 2005 Author Share Posted October 9, 2005 Oh right a "slight pause" eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 It should be a slight pauze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 9, 2005 Author Share Posted October 9, 2005 Well - time for a confession - my DVD player is six years old, second hand, in its third home, and cost £60 new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 That's probably it. My DVD player pauses as well, for like half a second or something, on the Indy DVDs. Most other DVDs are smooth, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 9, 2005 Author Share Posted October 9, 2005 No-one else have the "fuzzy" problem I mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Don't know which part you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Yeah I noticed that one. It's where Sallah and Indy are in the truck and the picture goes a bit soft and blurry for maybe 5 seconds right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Perhaps you got teary-eyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 What scene is this "fuzzy" moment. There is a focus issue in the movie when Sallah is driving the car and Henry Sr. says "Now they have the map! And in this sort of race there's no silver medal for finishing second".Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I think that's it, the whole image seems to lose its focus for a few moments. I vaguely recall the cue 'Brother of the Cruciform Sword' playing at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 The focus issue I mention has been part of the movie. It's how it was shot.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Was this a creative decision or did the cameraman just have a slip of his finger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Douglas Slocombe does not have greasy fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Was this a creative decision or did the cameraman just have a slip of his finger?It looks like a timing issue. Maybe someone missed their mark but Spielberg liked the performance.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Well, they're in a shoddy car bouncing along a sand street, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 They can fix that with CGI nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I don't have the Indy DVD's though I should get em' sometime, I guess. But as far as the layer change...definitely get yourself a new DVD player. Doesn't have to cost $400....just a fairly new one that's pretty decent. People reported having seeing the layer changes in ANH for the OT DVD set, but I never noticed anything since my player is pretty new (only a year old) and it played things through fine. I agree definitely your player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I don't have the Indy DVD's though I should get em' sometime, I guess. Â But as far as the layer change...definitely get yourself a new DVD player. Â Doesn't have to cost $400....just a fairly new one that's pretty decent. Â People reported having seeing the layer changes in ANH for the OT DVD set, but I never noticed anything since my player is pretty new (only a year old) and it played things through fine. Â I agree definitely your player.Fox actually issued replacement discs because the layer change problem on that disc was so prevalent.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I don't have the Indy DVD's though I should get em' sometime, I guess. Â But as far as the layer change...definitely get yourself a new DVD player. Â Doesn't have to cost $400....just a fairly new one that's pretty decent. Â People reported having seeing the layer changes in ANH for the OT DVD set, but I never noticed anything since my player is pretty new (only a year old) and it played things through fine. Â I agree definitely your player.Fox actually issued replacement discs because the layer change problem on that disc was so prevalent.NeilOh gotcha. Just like how there were framing issues for BTTF's 2 and 3 DVD's and all people had to do was just send the discs back to Universal and they'd send corrected discs. Gotcha now. 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Is a layer change something that happens on every DVD, or is it just a few? On my player, all DVDs seem to pause for a moment, like a second or less. But it happens with just about every DVD I watch; I don't think it's the player because we have more than one, the newest of which is just one year old, and I think it's happened in that one too.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Most films on DVD have layer changes.Sometimes they manage to put the layer change in a spot were you don't notice it (a fade out or something), but often it is very noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 There is a focus issue in the movie when Sallah is driving the car and Henry Sr. says "Now they have the map! Â And in this sort of race there's no silver medal for finishing second".I always figured that was because they had the camera strapped to the car.I've never really had any problems with layer changes. I barely notice them on my player (a fairly cheap Toshiba). I usually only notice because my reciever flashes the name of the sound format again like it does when you first start a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Sometimes they manage to put the layer change in a spot were you don't notice it (a fade out or something), but often it is very noticable.Typically, some tone-deaf person attempts to do that, and ends up placing the layer change at a transition from one scene to another, where the screen is black but the score is very active.Marian - who doesn't notice layer changes when watching DVDs on his multimedia PC. 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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