Sandor 796 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Now that Memoirs is already tipped for an Academy Award by many (without hearing a single note) I'm afraid that even if Memoirs is the best score of Williams' career, the award will eventually go to a man named Krathnouíck or something like that. The weird name among the bunch. Looking back; what Williams-score really should have won an Oscar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 That you left Raiders of the Lost ark is amazing...I suppose it is ESB, who lost to a song movie score (which should have been on another category) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Out of that list, Superman: The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Not that i dont agree with you, but it wasnt even nomiated, and having Shindler's list there, i prefer the later to win.Same with SW and close encounters, CEO3K deserved an oscar, but SW too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 All mentioned above and many more Williams scores should have won an Oscar. Amistad for one and Jurassic Park ante omnia. A.I. which had a rotten fortune of being nominated on the same year as FOTR(Academy gave Oscar to some one new instead of Williams). Raiders would have deserved an Oscar no questions asked (I am still pissed off by the Academy's choice to pick Chariots of Fire over Williams' masterpiece).If I would have to choose ESB is the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 That you left Raiders of the Lost ark is amazing...That I left that one out is amazingly STUPID!! I should have included Raiders of course! Problem is: I don't know how to edit a poll. Is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 The first two on the list, plus Raiders, lost to infinately inferior scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 JP should not have won an Oscar. Schindler's List was a better score. JP should have won in almost any other year, though.ESB, though, should have won in ANY year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Out of the ones you have listed, I gotta go wih Superman: The Movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Superman - The MovieNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'm surprised at you, Neil.No, HPSS should not have won, because he wrote A.I., the other nominee, the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Agreed. AI was JW's most inventive score for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 "The Empire Strikes Back" lost to "Fame," which had about three minutes of underscore. Like the 1986 winner, "'Round Midnight," voters confused original music with song score and previously recorded music.Before you mention "The Full Monty," that had a very fine underscore, but was probably overshadowed by all the songs in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 A.I should've won. Amistad as well.From that list, the Empire Strikes Back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Empire and Superman. And Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Star Trek The Motion Picture.i know...i know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Superman or Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 HPSS.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 From the list, Harry Potter...But what about Jurassic Park?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 No way Jurassic Park could beat Schindler's List for the Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Nor should it. Both have fantastic material, but IMO SL is more affecting, and JP does have it's less than sublime patches, something I don't think SL has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Oh, I'm the only one who voted for "Other". I can think of 5 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 On top of my head:SupermanRaidersEmpire Strikes BackReturn of the JediTemple of DoomEmpire of the SunBorn on the Fourth of JulyAmistadAngela's AshesA.ICatch me if you canHarry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Raiders should have won, Hook should have won, Superman should have won, Born on the Fourth of July should have won, The Patriot should have won, ESB should have won, POA should have won, Far and Away should have won, AI was Oscar material though I dont disagree with the academy's choice of FOTR, which was equally deserving. I do disagree however, with ROTK's win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Raiders should have won. Superman should have won, Born on the Fourth of July should have won, The Patriot should have won, ESB should have won, POA should have won, Far and Away should have won, AI was Oscar material though I dont disagree with the academy's choice of FOTR, which was equally deserving. I do disagree however, with ROTK's win.I'm a die hard Williams fan, but no way should The Patriot have beaten out Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in 2000. And even if Far and Away would have been nominated in '92, Basic Instinct should have been the winner despite the fact that it wasn't.I voted for Superman-The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 hmm...i feel the patriot is fair game for crouching tiger. and yeah, i'm of chinese descent. i havent watched Basic instinct either, so i cant comment about it. however, i do feel far and away is really one of JW's best works (its my most played JW album outside of SW) and it would not have been travesty if it won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Superman the Movie, should have won,The Empire Strikes Back, should have wonRaiders should have won,Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone should have won, its a much better and much more memorable score than the adequate score for the stinker movie called A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 ah yes, but TSS went up against FOTR, which was the best of the LOTR trilogy and can be regarded to be about as good as any other score out there IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hey, it's really refreshing to hear someone talk about F&A like that. I feel the same way about it. A monumental work!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 yes, i love F&A a lot, sadly its usually overlooked and hard to find in my part of the world. mediocre movie though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Sorcerer's Stone should have won, its a much better and much more memorable score than the adequate score for the stinker movie called A.I. WELCOME BACK! (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I love both TESB and Superman but I had to go with Superman, mainly because it is a more original score than TESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Nor should it. Both have fantastic material, but IMO SL is more affecting, and JP does have it's less than sublime patches, something I don't think SL has.Jurassic Park is flawless piece of Film music history. It has no less sublime patches good sir! Shush now! I do not want to hear your protests or arguments. I'm not listening, I'm not listening!It would have deserved an Oscar even if it was composed the same year as Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Jurassic Park is an awesome score, but does not carry the impact that Schindler's List does. Out of these two, Schindler's List is the rightful winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sithless 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I agree with all who voted for Raiders. It was infuriating to see Vangelis win for his banal score to Chariots of Fire. URRGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaid72000 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I think "The Empire Strikes Back" should have won an Oscar. The Imperial March is one of the reasons why it should have won an Oscar another reason is the The Battle of Hoth. These plus the other muisc make this a real winner and not muisc used from other movies he has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benefactor 3 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 From all that lengthy list of Williams Oscar’s losses my votes would be for The Empire Strikes Back and Born on the Fourth of July!(* marks the winner of course)1967 (Scoring of Music--adaptation or treatment)* Camelot -- Alfred Newman, Ken Darby Valley of the Dolls -- John Williams 1969 * Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid -- Burt Bacharach The Reivers -- John Williams (Score of a Musical Picture--original or adaptation) Goodbye, Mr. Chips -- Music and lyrics by Leslie Bricusse; adaptation score by John Williams * Hello, Dolly! -- Adaptation score by Lennie Hayton and Lionel Newman 1972 images -- John Williams * Limelight -- Charles Chaplin, Raymond Rasch, Larry Russell The Poseidon Adventure -- John Williams 1973 Cinderella Liberty -- John Williams * The Way We Were -- Marvin Hamlisch (Scoring: Original Song Score and Adaptation -or- Scoring: Adaptation)* The Sting -- Adaptation Score by Marvin Hamlisch Tom Sawyer -- Song Score by Richard M. Sherman and Robert B. Sherman; Adaptation Score by John Williams 1974 * The Godfather Part II -- Nino Rota, Carmine Coppola The Towering Inferno -- John Williams 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind -- John Williams * Star Wars -- John Williams 1978 * Midnight Express -- Giorgio Moroder Superman -- John Williams 1980 The Empire Strikes Back -- John Williams * Fame -- Michael Gore 1981 * Chariots of Fire -- Vangelis Raiders of the Lost Ark -- John Williams 1983 Return of the Jedi -- John Williams * The Right Stuff -- Bill Conti 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom -- John Williams * A Passage to India -- Maurice Jarre The River -- John Williams 1987 Empire of the Sun -- John Williams * The Last Emperor -- Ryuichi Sakamoto, David Byrne, Cong Su The Witches of Eastwick -- John Williams 1988 The Accidental Tourist -- John Williams * The Milagro Beanfield War -- Dave Grusin 1989 Born on the Fourth of July -- John Williams Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade -- John Williams * The Little Mermaid -- Alan Menken 1990 * Dances With Wolves -- John Barry Home Alone -- John Williams 1991 * Beauty and the Beast -- Alan Menken JFK -- John Williams 1995 Nixon -- John Williams * The Postman (Il Postino) -- Luis Enrique Bacalov (Original Musical or Comedy Score)* Pocahontas -- Music by Alan Menken; Lyrics by Stephen Schwartz; Orchestral Score by Alan Menken Sabrina -- John Williams 1996 * The English Patient -- Gabriel Yared Sleepers -- John Williams 1997 Amistad -- John Williams * Titanic -- James Horner 1998 * Life Is Beautiful -- Nicola Piovani Saving Private Ryan -- John Williams 1999 Angela's Ashes -- John Williams * The Red Violin -- John Corigliano 2000 * Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon -- Tan Dun The Patriot -- John Williams 2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence -- John Williams Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone -- John Williams * The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring -- Howard Shore 2002 Catch Me If You Can -- John Williams* Frida -- Elliot Goldenthal 2004* Finding Neverland -- Jan A.P. Kaczmarek Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban -- John Williams 2005 ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Raiders of the Lost Ark and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, definitely. That Little Mermaid beat Last Crusade just boggles my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Little Mermaid was pretty good IMHO. Beauty and the Beast however, now that deserved to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Johnny has lost so many times the guy just NEEDS to be handed another oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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