Sandor 459 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Heard he was Cameron's first pick. What's the story here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Where did you hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I heard this too, but I don't believe there is any real truth in it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think Williams was bussy with Spielberg on both Amistad and the Lost World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Luke's right. But I have nowhere to point to for evidence. I think I read it somewhere that Cameron pleaded with Williams. I think JW wanted to do it, but he was busy working for Spielberg that year.And of course everyone knows that JW was the first choice for "Batman." But he was busy with "Last Crusade," and I read that he didn't want to do another superhero movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 And of course everyone knows that JW was the first choice for "Batman." But he was busy with "Last Crusade," and I read that he didn't want to do another superhero movie.He was? Elfman had already done several scores with Burton and they had a good relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I also heard Williams was the first choice for Batman. Besides, he had previously worked with the producers Jon Peters and Peter Gruber on Witches of Eastwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 This is what we call a "Fanwank rumor."No further discussion seems nescasary.Justin - Who'd also like to say that he's not surprised to see Roald's name attached to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Williams might have been first choice for the producers, but probably not for Tim Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 And the producers probably had more executive power than Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Yes John Williams was considered for Titanic.There is a book called Titanic and The Making of James Cameron: The Inside Story of the Three-Year Adventure That Rewrote Motion Picture History. I've read the chapter myself where it discusses Williams possible involvment. I believe it states that Cameron wanted a big name composer for the film and John Williams was considered. Williams but he was busy scoring The Lost World. Horner was represented by the same agency that Williams was and one of his (Horner's)agents got his hands on copy of the script and showed it to Horner. Horner immediately fell in love with the story and met with Cameron and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 JW Titanic would have beet so marvelous... and another oscar for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord89 0 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 JW Titanic would have beet so marvelous... and another oscar for him...I agree. It would have been a great melodic masterpiece. We have to keep Horner's score, which has a nice love theme (but yes, sadly the great number of times I've listened to "My Heart Will Go On" have made it half nice of what it could have been...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 459 Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 This is what we call a "Fanwank rumor."No further discussion seems nescasary.Justin - Who'd also like to say that he's not surprised to see Roald's name attached to this thread. Man, you really don't know what you are talking about do you? Mark Olivarez reference to the book surely indicates this is FAR MORE than just a "fanwank rumor". Get your act together boy. Oh and Mark; are you sure the book is called?: Titanic and The Making of James Cameron: The Inside Story of the Three-Year Adventure That Rewrote Motion Picture History.I mean: THE MAKING OF JAMES CAMERON? Does the book have sex in it or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Yes that is the correct title of the book. Here is a link to Barnes & Noble that shows it. It does sound rather silly when you look at the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 As has been said before the producers of "Batman" recommended Williams. Usually, they get the pick, but Burton I'm sure lobbied heavily for Elfman. I do seriously believe that I read a quote from either Peters or Gruber that states this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 And the fact that Williams was busy in the first place may also have something to do wiuth Elfman getting the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I suspect that the truth is somewhere in the middle of everything. It makes sense that WB wanted JW, it makes sense that TB wanted DE, it makes sense that JW was busy with SS, it makes sense that JW agreed and had to drop out (LC went into production a bit tentaviley). Either way, I don't think anyone cared about TB's opinion when courting JW. And nobody gave jack shit about DE, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I can't even fathom what a Burton/Williams working relationship would churn out...Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 159 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 More "eastwick" style music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Or nothing but 18 tracks of the "Knight Bus". :? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Both of those suggestions sound good to me..... Morlock- who thinks that the theme from Witches of Eastwick is one of the greatest ever written for film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 159 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Devil's Dance is genious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 A fanwank rumor is that Willliams is "retiring very soon". Currently very popular at IMDb message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 A fanwank rumor is that Willliams is "retiring very soon". Currently very popular at IMDb message boards.Yes...poor friend. I hear he's nutty as a fruitcake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 "All of the music was composed by Jerry Goldsmith. I had never heard that name before but he must be pretty talented." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 That's kinda sad, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,285 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 A fanwank rumor is that Willliams is "retiring very soon". Currently very popular at IMDb message boards.Williams retired in 1993, that what many places say.I suppose they mean he retired from the Boston pops, but they dont know it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,638 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Anyone who refers to Titanic as "The movie that rewrote motion picture history" should be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 159 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Well, "rewrote" is perhaps the wrong word, but you can't deny that it had quite an impact. And it will be many years until it will be topped at the BO (hell, the 2nd most successful film made barely more than half of Titanic's gross). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,638 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Who in the world would judge a movie by its box office record? Balloons are only filled with hot air and yet they can fly. That's what Titanic is: a big bloated balloon.Honestly, I can't see how Titanic had an impact on anything, except on girls in their puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmilne 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 one thing i don't understand is why he hasn't had a go at scoring it himself, apart from the obvious workload it would entail. if he was wanting to do it, he could just as easily produce a new score for it.It's been done a lot by other composers on other films, for example the original scoreless dracula.horner did a wonderful job on it anyway. The music works fine with the film, if it didn't the director/producer would have rejected the score and re-hired.If he really wanted to do it he could just get permission to re-score it and then we'd have two amazing scores for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraquesh 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Well, "rewrote" is perhaps the wrong word, but you can't deny that it had quite an impact. And it will be many years until it will be topped at the BO (hell, the 2nd most successful film made barely more than half of Titanic's gross).Actually, this is not true.In the US, Titanic made $ 600 million.Star Wars (#2) made $ 460 million.Worldwide, Titanic made 1.8 billion.Return of the King (#2) made 1.1 billion.In the US, adjusting for inflation, Titanic ranks as the 6th most succesful film, under Gone with the Wind, Star Wars, Sound of Music, E.T. and the Ten Commandments.Considering inflation, it will be a matter of time before the $ 600 million Titanic made in the US is no more than a mere 'box office hit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 459 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Considering inflation, it will be a matter of time before the $ 600 million Titanic made in the US is no more than a mere 'box office hit'.Before $600 million will be regarded as a mere gross all of here will be long dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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