Star Wars: Episode I-III[Special Edition Soundtrack]

[mcdaid72000 0]

With like any soundtrack there are muisc that is used in the film, but originally not released in the soundtrack. Like its predecessor Star Wars: Episode IV-Vi he released the soundtracks, but 25 years later released the Special Edition Soundtrack to IV-VI. When do you think the release of the Speical Edition Soundtrack of Episode I-III will come out? Do you think it will take another 25 years just to release these unreleased music?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

John Williams will not be the one who will release them.

And I doubt it will be anytime soon.

[Romão 1,931]

In a few years time, I supose.

[Kendal_Ozzel 32]

I bet it will take a few years. Maybe they'll tie them in with the next video release (with deleted scenes, DTS tracks, and other good stuff that they're keeping from us untill then).

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

John Williams won't be doing it himself. So never.

[King Mark 2,924]

I'll send my bootleg to Sony Classical in a brown unmarked enveloppe with SCREW YOU written on the c.d.

Were only missing 25 minutes of music now(maybe even a bit less).

K.M.

[Kendal_Ozzel 32]

...with SCREW YOU written on the c.d.

Basically what they did to us with the TPM: UE.

[Lurker 5]

When Lucasfilm is convinced this will generate enough money to warrant the expense in releasing it. I'm told the TPM UE only sold about 10% of what the original album did so I'd say for the time being, it's not happening.

Neil

[Trent B 317]

They MIGHT release some sort of 2-disc expanded set for AOTC and ROTS probably as another Ultimate Edition. I know you guys will say, "I hope they don't". But it probably might happen.

Now as far as Special Editions of the Prequel scores like how the OT's were. Well I doubt we'll have to wait 25 years like before. I voted at least maybe 5 years from now they might.

[gkgyver 1,638]

I'm pretty sure they'll do it next year, considering that everyone tries so hard to forget the prequels. I'm not quite sure what the difference is between a "Special Edition" and an expanded release, though, if you put aside the printing "Special Edition" on the cover.

[Orson 1]

When Lucasfilm is convinced this will generate enough money to warrant the expense in releasing it.  I'm told the TPM UE only sold about 10% of what the original album did so I'd say for the time being, it's not happening.

Neil

I had no idea it did that poorly. Maybe part of the reason was due to that awful cover art.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Or the fact that it didn't give what it promised, and has an all-out bad reputation.

[Delorean90 32]

Geez, you'd think they'd get the message when the SE sets are best-selling film score albums and the UE gets so little. I mean, he's a businessman--doesn't he look into this stuff?

[Indiana_Fett 0]

Why is TPM:UE regarded with such hate?

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

It was advertised as "every note John Williams wrote for Star Wars: Episode I," but it isn't. It's the music as presented in the film, complete with all of the crazy edits, loops and pastejobs. The Battle of Naboo is a nearly unlistenable mess.

[stewdog1 50]

Plus add in the fact that TPM: UE was released so close to the original OST release, it was bound for dismal sales. The original trilogy was what, at least 15 year gap since ROTJ before we got any of that?

Supply and demand my friends. Even if TPM:UE came out as a "complete" score as it should have been, I doubt that it would have sold much more than it did.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

btw, what cues which are unreleased in Ep2 and 3 would you like to see in the future? for me, i think there are some bits and pieces here and there but nothing as siginificant as the omission of the two big Force theme statements in TPM

[ymenard 35]

Why is TPM:UE regarded with such hate?

Yikes, welcome to the NG! Just search previous threads about it. While John Williams' input on Episode I is incredible, its all about the sound production on the CD. The score is mesmerizing, but what we have is an edited/botched/cutted out/scraped soundtrack that tries to pass as "every note you hear". It's an isolated sountrack without the sound effects and dialogue, that's all, and only for the worse. Notes are stretched, time signature is completely messed up, notes are cut out, pitched down, complete passages are copy/pasted one after the other (to stretch out the timing) sometimes even taken from parts that are not related to what John wrote for the scene. It's all fake, and not made the way John Williams wrote the score. What you hear is NOT what John wrote on paper in a linear way, the way he recorded it in the studio.

Just look at what they have done with the original SW trilogy, and the upcoming LOTR scores, so have an idea on HOW to release an expanded score. It's the _ONLY WAY TO DO IT_.

[ymenard 35]

btw, what cues which are unreleased in Ep2 and 3 would you like to see in the future? for me, i think there are some bits and pieces here and there but nothing as siginificant as the omission of the two big Force theme statements in TPM

It's pretty easy, like I wrote there is _ONLY ONE WAY TO DO IT_ : Give us the score as John recorded it for all 3 movies in the studio with the LSO. The music is taken from those scoring sessions, not further away from the movie mix. Its the ony way to please everybody, the only way for them to make a sale and us to buy it.

Why do companies that create soundtracks don't understand that concept is shameful to the industry, as others do it incredibly well.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

i think its also to do with the way george makes his movies nowadays. we no longer get long stretched out tracks like Battle of Yavin or Hoth. Instead, he prefers to cut and paste and track in music from his previous movies. that arena battle in AoTC with tracked in TPM music is plain embarrasing

[King Mark 2,924]

RotS has a few tracked parts,but all the original cues are pretty much intact in the film(but at a very low volume mix),much more intact than on the OST.

K.M.

[batmanand 0]

Yes indeed, although sometimes the dreaded tracking does cut off some of the best bits...

[robthehand 3]

Like what?

[ymenard 35]

i think its also to do with the way george makes his movies nowadays. we no longer get long stretched out tracks like Battle of Yavin or Hoth. Instead, he prefers to cut and paste and track in music from his previous movies. that arena battle in AoTC with tracked in TPM music is plain embarrasing

Yes but in this case input from George Lucas is irrelevant. The only thing that counts is what John wrote and recorded during those scoring sessions.

[Incanus 5,518]

I believe Rick McCallum will wake George up and inform there is money to be made with the scores. Lucas will probably release the scores in the next 5 years. We should have a person producing and compiling the complete scores who really cares abouth the music. Michael Matessino did a good job with the OT complete releases. He would be my choice to restore Prequel scores to the glory they deserve. All the music Williams wrote and recorded released with alternates and unused sections. All the music. We should get an insider to control the process but who is the tough question.

[Orson 1]

I believe Rick McCallum will wake George up and inform there is money to be made with the scores. Lucas will probably release the scores in the next 5 years. We should have a person producing  and compiling  the complete scores who really cares abouth the music. Michael Matessino did a good job with the OT complete releases. He would be my choice to restore Prequel scores to the glory they deserve. All the music Williams wrote and recorded released with alternates and unused sections. All the music. We should get an insider to control the process but who is the tough question.

Hopefully one night after many drinks, old Ricky will call George and say something like this:

"George, there's a lot of f***ing money to be f***ing made. What the f*** are you thinking not releasing proper expanded f***ing scores? What's that? No George, The Phantom F***ing Menace UE does not count."

[Incanus 5,518]

Hopefully one night after many drinks, old Ricky will call George and say something like this:

"George, there's a lot of f***ing money to be f***ing made. What the f*** are you thinking not releasing proper expanded f***ing scores? What's that? No George, The Phantom F***ing Menace UE does not count."

LOL

[Ollie 859]

I know there a few on this board who aren't too fond of LOTR but at least you have to give Warner / Reprise records credit for what appears to be a great release of the complete scores coming our way.

I wish Sony and Lucasfilm would do the same.

[Incanus 5,518]

I know there a few on this board who aren't too fond of LOTR but at least you have to give Warner / Reprise records credit for what appears to be a great release of the complete scores coming our way.

I wish Sony and Lucasfilm would do the same.

Amen to that! But Shore and Jackson were very keen on producing the complete scores a s soon as possible. Jackson had such commitment to do that from the start. Lucas and Williams have not even given any hint to that direction. Williams seems to be embarrased and ackward about his scores for some reason and does not want them fully released. What kind of attitude is that? I know it's not up to Williams and Lucas alone but those two could set the wheels in motion.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

lets hope it doesn fail ile TPM UE, for a release too soon...

Well at least it has unedited music

[robthehand 3]

Or so we're told.

[King Mark 2,924]

I know there a few on this board who aren't too fond of LOTR but at least you have to give Warner / Reprise records credit for what appears to be a great release of the complete scores coming our way.

I wish Sony and Lucasfilm would do the same.

Exactly.Surely they don't expect a huge amnount of people to buy this.It's a speciality item that only a minority of people that own the OST will buy.Lucasfilm must reason that even if they make a profit by releasing expanded scores,but the profit isn't huge,then it's not worth their time.

K.M.

[Trent B 317]

I think they know the complete Prequel scores will be a good profit. After all the sales for the OT scores did. I think they're just waiting until the right time to release them. Maybe they might release them next year as Rick McCallum said to thousands of fans at C3 (well he said box set but still..could be the complete scores), or might wait a year or two after they release the 12 disc saga movie box set in 07'.

[King Mark 2,924]

Hey,your wasting precious time trying to get that Trials of ObiWan game running.

K.M.

[Trent B 317]

I think it's a lost cause with this pc. I will wait for Cerrabore to come on to talk to him.

[King Mark 2,924]

I hope Cerrabore didn't decide to drop dead today.

K.M.

[Trent B 317]

I hope Cerrabore didn't decide to drop dead today.

K.M.

I hope not either. LOL