What do you think of RotS (the film, not the score) now?

[robthehand 3]

These were are opinions on its initial release:

1/10 - 1 vote

2/10 - 1 vote

5/10 - 3 votes

6/10 - 8 votes

7/10 - 5 votes

8/10 - 14 votes

9/10 - 16 (!) votes

10/10 - 13 votes

I guess people's opinions have changed now, so what do you give it now? I give it a "6" this time.

[ChrisAfonso 159]

It's overall good to great, with some sour places sticking out.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

I think i said this the other time also: 9

perfect movies do not exist.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

I can't remember what I gave it last time. After seeing it again yesterday evening, I'll go with 6 now.

[Lurker 5]

A solid "1".

Neil

[nightscape94 965]

perfect movies do not exist.

I can name a few.

Tim

[robthehand 3]

I can't remember what I gave it last time. After seeing it again yesterday evening, I'll go with 6 now.

You gave it 8 on first viewing. 8O

And Neil, are you suggesting that RotS was no better than AotC?

[Lurker 5]

And Neil, are you suggesting that RotS was no better than AotC?

Yes, it's just as bad. Whereas AOTC was 2+ hours of a muddled mystery (that was no mystery at all) and bad teenage romance, ROTS is simply 2+ hours of uninteresting exposition. This movie is connect the dots at it's most basic level. Characters do nothing in this movie for any logical reason just so that they can end up standing around for 20 years waiting for Star Wars to begin.

Neil

[nightscape94 965]

Yeah, but there were more R2 screams in the first opening battle sequence of RotS then the whole OT combined.

And there was....lava. :?

Alright, nevermind.

Tim

[Justin 2]

Neil has some good points however I'd give it a 4/10 or a 2/5. So much of the film is just sleep inducing but there are moments near the end which are entertaining so it's not a total loss. Besides Williams score works so well in the last 40 minutes of the movie it almost makes me like that part of the film.

AOTC....yes solid 1.

TPM....probably either a 4 or 5.

Justin

[Incanus 5,519]

My opinion has not changed from the initial watching. Average movie deserves 7.

[Romão 1,931]

Great movie, wonderfully engrossing. A 9. I rarely give 10's to any movie.

[Justin 2]

My vote went down from a 6 to a 4 which I think is adequate since I'd only seen it once when I first voted.

Justin - Who has now seen it twice. Maybe if I watch it two more times I'll give it a 1.

[Incanus 5,519]

Justin - Who has now seen it twice. Maybe if I watch it two more times I'll give it a 1.

LOL LOL

It seems that movie gets worse on every watching in your opinion. That is a rare occurrence (atleast for me) but these are not just any films these are SW Prequels

[Lurker 5]

Justin - Who has now seen it twice. Maybe if I watch it two more times I'll give it a 1.

LOL LOL

It seems that movie gets worse on every watching in your opinion. That is a rare occurrence (atleast for me) but these are not just any films these are SW Prequels

The last two aren't even films.

Neil

[Incanus 5,519]

Well that is true. CGI monsters I would call them. I wonder what kept Lucas from replacing the actors with CGI counterparts in the first place. They should be considerably easier to direct. In time he probably will do it. I'll wait for the Extreme Special Edition where everything in all the 6 films is replaced by CGI

[Ollie 859]

I give it an 8. I would rank it #3 behind SW and TESB as far as my favorites in the series.

After watching ROTS and Return of The Jedi this past weekend ROTJ has slipped even further down the list.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

I'll wait for the Extreme Special Edition where everything in all the 6 films is replaced by CGI  

I cant wait for that day.

And with some remarks here, im thinking about not caring anymore if Lucas doesn notrelease the OT original versions...

[robthehand 3]

The last two aren't even films.

Neil

Do you mind if I use that (100% true) argument when arguing with idiotic eleven year olds who think TPM is better than TESB?

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Neil thinks SW is better than TESB...

And TPM is film, btw.

[robthehand 3]

I meant the prequels. banghead

[Lurker 5]

But it's not better than TESB!

TPM, AOTC, ROTS and ROTJ are not better than TESB.

Star Wars is better than all of them.

AOTC and ROTS are not films. They are movies.

Neil

[AC1 3,565]

I haven't seen ROTS again but I disagree with all those who call it just as bad as AOTC. In his "last" episode, Lucas definitely has been working on two important Star Wars factors (he clearly listened to the critique from the press).

1) Finally, there was a more "positive emotion" between Anakin and Kenobi, the two main characters. In previous episodes, there was only a stiff, "negative emotion" between them, to an extent that is was unrealistic or unbelievable. Dramatically, you need to give the audience "something", so that they believe in the relationship/friendship. This "something" was completely absent in the first two prequels.

2) Star Wars is a story about good vs. evil and therefore it needs a clear villain. Someone who represents pure, menacing evil and is interesting at the same time. The original trilogy had Darth Vader and his presence could be felt from the very first opening scene to the final closing credits. We had to wait untill ROTS before there was such a villain again.

[Incanus 5,519]

AOTC and ROTS are not films.  They are movies.

Neil

Right. How nice. Films, movies. What is the difference when you know what people mean?

[Lurker 5]

Right. How nice. Films, movies. What is the difference...

AOTC and ROTS were never filmed.

Neil

[Incanus 5,519]

Right. How nice. Films, movies. What is the difference...

AOTC and ROTS were never filmed.

Neil

you are right Neil! How silly of me not to remeber that 8O

[nightscape94 965]

They were eventually transfered to film, but yes, they were recorded on digital tape. If that's what you mean.

Tim

[Lurker 5]

I would also like to point out that while both were captured on tape and not film, that's not what makes them crappy, turgid piles of rubbish. That comes from the acting, directing, writing and eventual editing.

Neil

[Justin 2]

I would also like to point out that while both were captured on tape and not film, that's not what makes them crappy, turgid piles of rubbish.  That comes from the acting, directing, writing and eventual editing.

Really? This whole time I thought you didn't like them because they were recorded using a digital medium. Huh, the more you know.

Jusitn

[gkgyver 1,638]

I'm constantly amazed that the folks at ILM try that hard to replace a fake- looking Yoda with another fake- looking Yoda.

They dump the puppet because it looks fake, but they try their damnedest to make the CGI Yoda like that puppet.

[Jeshopk 8]

The last two aren't even films.  

Neil

Funny, when I saw the last 2, they were projected on film. Beautiful grain danced across the screen. Digital resoltion was hidden and blended by the old fashioned photographic process.

Don't tell me that as a non-fan you sought out one of the few digital theatres? Or are you hiding something...

[nightscape94 965]

I was able to catch RotS on digital projector when it played at a theater in King of Prussia, Pa - which is only about 16 miles from me. It was worth the 30 minute drive. I don't think that theater had the digital technology when it showed the other two, but there is a significant difference for a movie like that. Though I'm not one of the forerunners for the complete annihilation of film like Lucas, Soderbergh and Rodriguez.

Tim

[Orson 1]

I was able to catch RotS on digital projector when it played at a theater in King of Prussia, Pa - which is only about 16 miles from me.  

Tim

Everytime I'm down there I keep wanting to check that theater out.

Orson, who is just down the turnpike from it.

[nightscape94 965]

Orson, who is just down the turnpike from it.

There's a Xanadu, Pennsylvania?

I had no idea.

Tim

[Trumpeteer 243]

AOTC and ROTS are not films.  They are movies.

Neil

Actually, they are video games I had to pay way too much to try to play. Actually, I didn't pay to see "ROTS" both times I saw it.

I still give it a 3. The first three minutes and the final two minutes were reaching for something that resembled a great movie.

[Orson 1]

Orson, who is just down the turnpike from it.

There's a Xanadu, Pennsylvania?

I had no idea.

Tim

Xanadu is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.

[MrAsterisk 0]

7.49 (for the sake of rounding down). It was great, but there were likely a few more laughs than intended thanks to the sub-par Lucas dialogue.

And the bad "NOOOOOOO!!!" (which i don't really care about) must be genetic, because Luke's was quite an atrocity too (and no one complains about Empire!).

[diskobolus 3]

An 8. The line "No, it's because I'm so in love with you" alone takes it down from a 9.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,765]

I still like it. Not as good as the Original Trilogy, but it's a fun ride.

[Composer_Fan 2]

Funny that this poll should pop up; I just watched one of the documentaries on the DVD about the Mustafar scene, and I was amazed at all that went into it. From the caterers to Abbey Road, it was an incredible process. So, even with the cheesy acting and the "Noooo!!!", I've grown to like this film alot more....

9

[JoeinAR 1,759]

rob the hand, you are not telling the truth.

there were 2 votes for #1, as Neil and I both gave it a one.

I gave it a one for the utterly and totally horrible beginning, for 1 solid hour I witnessed one of the worst cinematic experiences I've ever seen, thank goodness the 2nd half was better.

[King Mark 2,924]

So why did you give it a 1/10 then.

k.M.

[JoeinAR 1,759]

because it deserved 0, but for the 2nd half.

[King Mark 2,924]

yeah,right.

K.M.

[Sandor 459]

Well; I gave it a 10. If the voting here would be a little more serious I would probably give it a 9.

[Docteur Qui 1,248]

5. Not the best movie I've seen but not the worst. Atrocious first three-quarters, mildly entertaining if not cheap and often contrived last quarter.

[Lurker 5]

because it deserved 0, but for the 2nd half.

Neil - who saw it just once, for free, digitally

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

The 35mm print I saw looked better than the digital transfer from the DVD. I consciously chose to watch a "real" print rather than catch a digital projection, because I like the natural imperfections of celluloid. The grain, the occasional specks and scratches (although I don't want scratches on a DVD transfer). The video however, is a direct copy from the digital source, and free of grain and such things. It brings out the clarity of the CGI, and its imperfections in the process. It was hard to believe I actually bought the shots of R2 hiding aboard the Invisible Hand in the theatre, because they look so fake. As with AotC, I am occasionally reminded of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the difference being that in Roger Rabbit, I actualy believed Bob Hoskins was walking around in an animated world.

- Marc, still wondering why the hell Dooku does that crazy salto when he jumps off the ramp. Jumping down is bad enough when there's a stairway five feet away. banghead

[King Mark 2,924]

The worse special effect is ObiWan beeing crushed by that beam during the Dooku duel

k.m.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Yes. You'd think Anakin would find a mangled bloody corpse under there, but nooo. Obi-Wan is awake and running around again in five minutes.