JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Can you believe it. Star Wars Ep. 2 is already at the dollar theatre.It took Harry Potter 5 months to get there, LOTR 5 months, L-U-C-A-S spells pitiful.Come on George you have almost 3 years to get Ep. 3 right. We know you can do the eye candy. Did I mention we know you can do eye candy?My point is simple. ONE WORD.........................................STORYTell one worth telling, and you will be surprised how easily people will forgive you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Well said, Joe.Stefancos- who saw the film twice in the cinema, and twice the "illigal" way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 I have a one word answer too:Spielberg~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 3, 2002 Author Share Posted August 3, 2002 Two words Harry,wont happen.ever.besides he can't direct Ep 3 and Indy 4 at the same time, since they come out only 6 weeks apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Who says he can't? If he co-directs, he doesn't have to be present for every last bit of the film, right? Besides, if shooting for Ep3 occurs early enough, he'll have plenty of time to put his time into both projects.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 besides he can't direct Ep 3 and Indy 4 at the same time, since they come out only 6 weeks apart.In that case, two words:Tobe HooperStefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 3, 2002 Author Share Posted August 3, 2002 Harry don't you understand LUCAS does not want Steven to do it.Not ever.Doesn't matter what you want, or Steven wants.Its what George doesn't want.Steven to direct EP3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Hey! Don't yell at me! I'm just throwing out what I think should happen, that's all. Just a boy with dreams.~Harry, who thinks Lucas is a scruffy-looking nerfherder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Maybe if we use death threats and car bombs against him he'll change his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 George should listen to the fans and give us a movie we really want and love.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Speilberg shouldn't direct.Lucas should do a good job. Justin -Who thinks Lucas had BETTER do a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Spielberg should CO-direct. Lucas won't do a good job. He's had two tries, and he's failed at both.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Spielberg should CO-direct. Lucas won't do a good job. He's had two tries, and he's failed at bothHmmmm true. Justin -Who hopes Lucas could do a could job on the 3rd one because there's no way anyone else will do it. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Star Wars Ep. 2 is already at the dollar theatre.I'd be happier with the dollar.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 I'd be happier with the dollar. I'd be happier with just having the wasted two and a half hours of my life back. :dontgetit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Lucas HAS done a good Job in TPM and AOC.Luke who saw AOC 3 times and the cinema and one the 'illigal' way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Attack Of Clones???Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Well, AOTC has "only made" 600 million dollars, so it is pretty pitful.You even use box-office arguments to bash Lucas.No other serie in film history had its 5th movie gross 600 million dollars, in a pretty competitive summer, where it will be very difficult ofr a film, besides Spiderman and AOTC, to gross over 200 in the US (although it will probably happen).Romão, looking forward for George Lucas's Episode 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 It's pitiful for star wars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 I liked Attack of the Clones, but I found no emotional connection to the film.Star Wars had an effect on me,Empire Strikes Back had the same kind of effect, Jedi to a lesser degree.TPM was a terrible film, but it had a fun quality to it.AOTC was not very good, but it had a fun, dumb kind of quality, that was ok.The TPM and AOTC lack the qualities that the original trilogy had. People can like then all they want, but they barely deserve to be mentioned in the same breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 I liked Attack of the Clones, but I found no emotional connection to the film.That's the same way i felt.While i had a good time watching it, it was not any different then watching any old summer blockbuster movie.And those asre usually slightly better made.Stefancos- LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 It's pitiful for star wars...So are midichlorians but you sure as hell don't see that stopping Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Attack Of Clones???Stefancos- Well, every SW movie has a 3 letter acronim (TMP, ANH, ESB, ROJ) i have seen these officially, so i write Attack of the Clones in the same way , AOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 Star Wars doesn't, its just Star Wars.The original, the first,the best. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Star Wars doesn't, its just Star Wars.The original, the first,the best. IMODitto.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLW 0 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I just saw AOTC for the second time. I enjoyed it immensely. This film plays more like a thriller/who-dunnit, then any other SW film, and I liked that element. Even the conveyor belt sequence, which I didn't like the first time around was great. For the most part, the FX are off-the-hook. The designing is fabulous. The music was great, even with the edits/reuses - which I found perfectly fine, and I am a BIG JW fan. I even think that the choice NOT to use music thru most of the asteroid sequence and the arena sequence were good choices. I actually found myself involved in the story, which does play better on second viewing. By the end I was really kinda pumped for the next film. And, I will see this one again, and get the DVD. But, I am in COMPLETE agreement that George forgot to write characters! I shouldn't say forgot. There are charcters, they are just poorly exposed. They don't interact very fluidly, like Luke/Lea/Han did. In the first trilogy, I felt much more connected to the people. And yes, it is ALL about George's poor direction. The biggest misstep was lack of good character interactions. Even a few critical looks and glances would have added depth to some character moments. Such as, letting us see why Amidala fell in love with Anakin. What was missing here were those moments where we get to watch her watch him, and we see in her eyes that she is "falling" for him. One difference between this group of SW films and the earlier trilogy, is that those stories centered around "The New Hope," essentially, one person and his friends. These newer films spend too much time on the grander picture of the Republic, etc, and don't offer much depth for individuals.I still commend George for the attempt, and hope that he is up to speed for the 3rd film. If he is smart, he will let someone else direct the actors. I believe he should control everything else, just not actors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I have a one word answer too:Spielberg~Harry NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!Look, it's not that I dislike Spielberg or anything, hell no. I think the man's a genius. I just don't trust him with the Star Wars films. I also shudder to think what kind of publicity it would get if Spielberg would direct it.Hayden Christensen...Natalie Portman...Ewan McGreggor...In a Steven Spielberg film:Star Wars: Episode III -- The Fall of the RepublicAnd then the poster:Steven Spielberg'sEpisode III.Buh... *shudder* Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra -- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 10x better than Lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 This film plays more like a thriller/who-dunnitExactly! The whole film is about trying to solve the mystery of who killed the SW series. The viewer must carefully add up the clues: bad dialogue, incompetent direction. lousy editing to figure out the shocking identity of the killer George Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLW 0 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Exactly! The whole film is about trying to solve the mystery of who killed the SW series. The viewer must carefully add up the clues: bad dialogue, incompetent direction. lousy editing to figure out the shocking identity of the killer George Lucas. That's funny. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruciformSword 2 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Maybe if we use death threats and car bombs against him he'll change his mind And than maybe he won't release EP 3 until 2010 and decide that Indy 4 jut isn't worth doing just to spite us. -Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 IT IS a busy summer, though. TPM didn't have this much to contend with back in 1999... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Exactly! The whole film is about trying to solve the mystery of who killed the SW series. The viewer must carefully add up the clues: bad dialogue, incompetent direction. lousy editing to figure out the shocking identity of the killer George Lucas. That's funny. LOLWell, for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Maybe if we use death threats and car bombs against him he'll change his mind I wouldn't hire Zam wessel for that , and after seeing AOC, i'm sure some Georgé Luké (decoy) will die instead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I actually wish AOTC would have gone to the dollar theater earlier. I'm glad Spiderman beat the crap out of AOTC. I'm glad it's struggling to break 300 million and I hope Harry Potter II or Signs or some other movie this year knocks Episode II down another peg on the highest grossing films of the year list simply because I'm tired of Lucas (and even Williams in that STARFIX article) defending the prequels with massive box office numbers. Maybe Lucas will now understand that these aren't great movies and he's not doing his best job as a director if Episode II only makes him 1 billion dollars instead of the 10 billion that TPM raked in! If he constantly talks about box office success=great movie, then I say hit it where it hurts him...in the pocketbook. Every SW film until AOTC was the highest grossing film of the year and I hope that that's something Lucas will keep in mind since reviews and movie critics and fans seem to hold no sway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 i'm sure some Georgé Luké (decoy) will die instead of him. LOL Those poor handmaidens. They all must be suicidal. I mean, being a handmaiden for Padme in Star Wars is the equivalent of being a red-shirted officer in Star Trek. You don't have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 So did Lucas run over your dog or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 So did Lucas run over your dog or something?No, but to quote Rhett Butler ffrom Gone With the Wind "waste always makes me angry" and I think that Lucas has wasted a lot of the great potential for the SW prequels and I think he did it for marketing reasons (Jar Jar, editing good scenes for a PG rating, fart jokes, bad kiddie-friendly love story, etc.) and so I find it ironic that AOTC is nowhere near as commercially successful as the other SW films and for that matter, TPM doesn't fare as well when you take into account inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 So did Lucas run over your dog or something?No but he killed my favorite sci-fi series. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 A shame for you Rogue_Leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I have a one word answer too:Spielberg~Harry NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!Look, it's not that I dislike Spielberg or anything, hell no. I think the man's a genius. I just don't trust him with the Star Wars films. I also shudder to think what kind of publicity it would get if Spielberg would direct it.Hayden Christensen...Natalie Portman...Ewan McGreggor...In a Steven Spielberg film:Star Wars: Episode III -- The Fall of the RepublicAnd then the poster:Steven Spielberg'sEpisode III.Buh... *shudder* Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra -- Indiana Jones and the Last CrusadeNONONONO to you! You don't seem to get my point. Why wouldn't you trust Spielberg with the movie? You trust Lucas more? I think someone else, like Spielberg, should CO-direct, not necessarily fully direct the movie. Well all know George can show us all the special effects and the rest of the technical side (well except for music), but we also know he can't at all show us the acting side, the personal side. He needs help in the acting category, and who else better to do it than his good buddy Steve? Like I've said before, we know the two get together well with movies, so what's wrong this time? Steve can help George save his series with this last episode.But that's just what I think.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I see your point. Steven is a great director, and he and Lucas have made great movies together, but I just don't trust the media and advertising guys. They might blow Spielberg's role out of proportion.- Marc, who thinks if Spielberg would actually do it, he'd better not make Palpatine a John Hammond II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Well, Rogue Leader, he who giveth can taketh away. It's his to do with whatever he wants ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I see your point. Steven is a great director, and he and Lucas have made great movies together, but I just don't trust the media and advertising guys. They might blow Spielberg's role out of proportion.Now I see your point. I would hope the marketing guys for the movie would correctly market the movie! But, we won't have to worry about that, since George won't cave in.~Harry :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Yeah but when the Lord taketh away he at least lets his creations die quietly with dignity. Lucas did not allow this with SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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