Star Wars: Original Trilogy Music Resource

[Giftheck 916]

I'm aiming to make an edit similar to my prequel edits though, and that combines the cues without telling me which is which.

[Jay 37,352]

Nobody knows the real ROTJ cue names. The sheet music has never leaked.

[Faleel 5,346]

here is the FSMO list:

Fox Fanfare (0:22)

Main Title / Approaching The Death Star (5:18)

Vader Contacts Luke / The Iron Door (2:20?)

Jabba's Harp Source (3:00)

Unused Source Music (not in film) (1:30) - Not In Film

My Favorite Decoration (1:00)

Lapti Nek (2:48)

Lapti Nek (English mix WB 12'' single)?

Lapti Nek (Film Version)?

Fancy Man (Lapti Nek English Version)?

Jabba's Prisoners (2:20)

Jabba's Sail Barge (Source)

Han Solo Returns (4:00)

Han Solo Returns (Film Version) (4:00) - Different Ending

A Strange Visitor (2:30)

Fight In The Dungeon (3:38)

The Sentence (2:00)

The Sarlaac Pit (0:45)

The Return Of The Jedi (4:59)

The Return Of The Jedi (Alternate) (5:03)

The Emperor Arrives (2:05)

The Death Of Yoda (6:03)

Ben and Luke On Log / The Rebel Fleet (2:50)

Battle Plans (2:00)

Faking The Code (4:10)

Jungle Encounter (1:20)

After The Bike Chase (0:50)

Enter The Ewok (2:00)

Parade Of The Ewoks (3:25)

More Trouble / More Ewoks Emerge (4:30)

Ewok Drums (2:25)

Using The Force (1:15)

Bedtime Stories (1:10)

Ewok Drums (2:05)

Brother and Sister (3:08)

Luke and Leia (4:43)

Father and Son (3:30)

Finding an Entrance (0:50)

Fleet Goes Into Hyperspace (1:00)

Heoric Ewok (2:00)

The Emperor Confronts Luke (3:26)

Intro The Trap (2:36)

Rebel Forces Captured (2:00)

First Ewok Battle / Fight With The Fighters (7:18)

The Emperor Provkes Luke (1:00)

The Ewok Battle (2:48)

The Forest Battle (4:01)

Leia Is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel (2:57)

The Battle Rages (1:00)

Final Duel / Into The Death Star (3:37)

The Emperor's Death (2:41)

Space Battle (2:00)

Darth Vader's Death (2:31)

Through The Flames (1:36)

Leia Breaks The News / Funeral Pyre For A Jedi (2:19)

Leia Breaks The News (Alternate) / Funeral Pyre For A Jedi (Film Version) (2:27)

Ewok Celebration / Finale (7:58)

Ewok Celebration (Film Version) (1:50)

[Trent B 337]

That list I posted a while back when I was told where to find it.

[Giftheck 916]

Is there something that tells us which tracks are which cue for that list? Some are easy guesses, others not so much.

[Jay 37,352]

Between that list and the first post of this thread I would think you could figure everything out

[Giftheck 916]

Fair point.

What's the Unused Source Music? Was it included in any of the albums?

[Trent B 337]

I don't think it was.

[Jay 37,352]

I have no idea what that is. Probably very few people have heard it

[King Mark 3,631]

I don't know if this as been asked

There's a file in TOR with Dark Side Beckons . Is it taken from the c.d.'s or better quality than what we have?

[Faleel 5,346]

Has anyone tried doing a mockup of the Sail abrge/max rebo band cue similar to how Gkgyver does?

[Jay 37,352]

Return of the Jedi sheet music has never leaked

[Faleel 5,346]

Well, Gkgyver does it "by ear"....

[Jonesy 55]

I have a version of "Max Rebo Band Music", it seems a original recording, but it's incomplete.

[Jilal 569]

I was wondering...

In the 2004 sony box set of the original trilogy the tracks run into eachother. Is this also in the 1997 RCA edition?

I have a version of "Max Rebo Band Music", it seems a original recording, but it's incomplete.

That's from the soundboards.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes.

[Faleel 5,346]

That's from the soundboards.

Actually, there is 3 versions:

The From Star Wars to Jedi rip

The Soundboards rip

and the film stems leak (?)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

None of them clean, right?

[Faleel 5,346]

They all SFX free, if thats what you mean.

but the quality suffers in the leak, because the volume jumps all over the place.

the soundboards one is 90-something-k.

and DVD/Blu-ray rip is SFX filled.

and the from SW to jedi (unless ripped from a Laserdisc's surround mix) has voiceover.

[Jilal 569]

56 kbps.

[Jay 37,352]

I was wondering...

In the 2004 sony box set of the original trilogy the tracks run into eachother. Is this also in the 1997 RCA edition?

The 2004 sony box set is identical to the 1997 releases (except they supposed improved the sound by running the 1997 CD master through some sort of digital software thingy)

[Giftheck 916]

I was wondering...

In the 2004 sony box set of the original trilogy the tracks run into eachother. Is this also in the 1997 RCA edition?

The 2004 sony box set is identical to the 1997 releases (except they supposed improved the sound by running the 1997 CD master through some sort of digital software thingy)

And the 2004 version apparently omits the booklets the RCA victor versions include.

[Trent B 337]

The 1994 versions with the laser etched disc are the best. I was able to buy a set with an outside cardboard box for $20 sealed from ebay.

[Jonesy 55]

I have a version of "Max Rebo Band Music", it seems a original recording, but it's incomplete.

That's from the soundboards.

Only the first 24 secs.

[Jilal 569]

That's it.

[ZackR 95]

The 1994 versions with the laser etched disc are the best. I was able to buy a set with an outside cardboard box for $20 sealed from ebay.

I remember buying each of those in the mall on release day! Love them ... even though they aren't perfect. I dream of the day George Lucas forgets who he ia for a few minutes and licenses all six to LLL. One can dream!

[MrJosh 892]

I too remember very fondly buying those SE sets on release day. So exciting to rip the plastic off of.those! Plus I was just starting to realize that john Williams didn't just write the music to star wars but a ton of other amazing music as well....it was a wonderful time.

[Jay 37,352]

Agree with the last two posts. I remember going to Media Play in the mall on release day for each set to get them. It was 3 Tuesdays 2 weeks apart each in Jan-Feb 1997

[Trent B 337]

I too picked them up back then when they were first released. Strangely enough I picked them up at Blockbuster of all places. All though like with most of my CDs back then I did NOT take care of them. So hence why I bought them again from ebay years later.

[MrJosh 892]

I got all three at Borders (and years later, the Ultimate Edition TPM...also an exciting time until I realized it was super-edited edition lol). I thought I had taken good care of mine, but I just got them out and oh man, the slip covers are in sad condition Makes me want to ebay them now....Though not practical, I think the packaging is wicked cool.

[Trent B 337]

I got all three at Borders (and years later, the Ultimate Edition TPM...also an exciting time until I realized it was super-edited edition lol). I thought I had taken good care of mine, but I just got them out and oh man, the slip covers are in sad condition Makes me want to ebay them now....Though not practical, I think the packaging is wicked cool.

The slip case covers really do not hold up well, no matter how well you take care of them. Even though I bought the set again from ebay a few years ago, even with taking care of them the slip cases aren't in that great of a shape.

[Jilal 569]

I was listening to an LP transfer of Star Wars lately, and i think the quality of the music on the lp is much better. For example i heard a piano in "Imperial Attack". Never heard that before.

Actually i believe that Imperial Attack on the LP is a different take than the one on the RCA set. The RCA take has some noise from someone hitting his stand at the beginning.

[Giftheck 916]

I think a lot of ANH material that was released pre-RCA sets is actually alternates.

[Jilal 569]

The LP has the right takes, the Anthology has incorrect takes (the notes from Ken Wannberg were lost at that time).

And presumably, also the RCA set does not always have the correct takes.

[Giftheck 916]

The RCA sets have different takes to the Anthology, but as I have neither the LP nor Ken Wannberg's notes, I wouldn't know if they're the 'correct' takes. I'm told they're the correct takes by a few people on here, so I'll leave it at that.

[Jilal 569]

Well, considering the LP was supervised by Williams himself...

Here's a very interesting document:

http://www.malonedigital.com/starwars.pdf

[Charlie Brigden 7]

The RCA has the take log in the back of the liner notes. Also, if you're going to trust anyone, Matessino is that person.

[Demondm810 399]

That article makes me sad.

[Giftheck 916]

That really is a sad article. All that effort and it essentially ended up wasted on oftentimes pointless editing.

[Faleel 5,346]

I can't say I agree with the "Preparing new liner notes" thing.

[Giftheck 916]

In the case of the Prequels, I'd agree that new liner notes are needed, but for the OT, the original RCA liner notes should suffice.

[Trent B 337]

I wish Sony would let Mike Matessino, MV and La-La Land release properly remastered versions of the Original Trilogy as well as the intended Prequel scores.

For the liner notes of the Original Trilogy, I'm sure if Matessino had the opportunity to re-write the liner notes for that set he would.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I think a big factor in this would be international distribution, both brick and mortar and online. LFL are going to want this in stores and are unlikely to sign up a limited edition online only deal. Which I think is probably part of why it's prohibitively expensive for the labels.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

They should get Didier C. Deutsch to do the SW scores, personally supervised by JW.

[Faleel 5,346]

Whats the difference between the TOR cues, and the RCA discs?

[Faleel 5,346]

Well, I think its confirmed that they have better masters for ROTJ, I listened to a rip of the blu-ray, and brightened up the Superstructure Chase cue, and it sound much better than when I brightened up the 97 SE version.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The film mixes sound much better than the SE CD's. Just listen to the Imperial March in Darth Vader's first scene of TESB. It's like night and day.

[pro-arte 22]

Hello,

Have someone pointed that in TESB, the track regarding "The Departure of Boba Fett" ( 8:49 - 9:10 ) ,the flute solos (!) haven't the presence as it has on the RSO album ?

[JohnnyD 1,223]

Hello; I was directed here by someone helping resolve a little problem.

I have the 2004 Special Edition release of ESB. It is terrific, but there are some claims that there are issues with it, such as sound (instruments heard on the wrong side of stereo image, orchestral depth nonexistent, wrong balance and pitch issues).

Specifically, what tracks have this problem, if any? I honestly cannot tell. I have always thought that this release was very satisfying. Pitch-issues? Compared to what is heard in the film, the cues sound fine.

Please help me clear up any confusion with specific details. This is just for my own investigation. Thank you very much.

[Faleel 5,346]

The Main Title, the main Brass is in the center, when it should be to the right, also there is a little brass ditty that should be in the left channel, but it is in the right channel on the 2004 release.

Also the harp is in the center in some cues, which it should not be.