Hlao-roo 388 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx#22Best Score Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media(Award to Composer(s) for an original score created specifically for, or as a companion to, a current legitimate motion picture, television show or series or other visual media.)Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The SithJohn Williams, composer[sony Classical /Sony Music Soundtrax] Best Instrumental Composition(A Composer's Award for an original composition (not an adaptation) first released during the Eligibility Year. Singles or Tracks only.)Anakin's BetrayalJohn Williams, composer (John Williams & The London Symphony Orchestra andLondon Voices)Track from: Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - Soundtrack[sony Classical /Sony Music Soundtrax] The Ferry SceneJohn Williams, composer (John Williams)Track from: War Of The Worlds - Soundtrack[Decca] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I guess I'll have to rent "War of the Worlds" again to catch the music from "The Ferry Scene." Could it really be as good as the "Escape from the City?"Congrats to John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The Ferry Scene music has those desperate strings as the people are left behind by the ferry as the doors close. Kind of reminds me of the Helicopter Rescure cue from Superman, but without the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos 0 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Bravo!!Good Luck, Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The Ferry Scene definitely deserves awards.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The Ferry Scene music has those desperate strings as the people are left behind by the ferry as the doors close. Kind of reminds me of the Helicopter Rescure cue from Superman, but without the rescue.I thought the strings in "Escape from the City" were just as desperate without being too overbearing. But I like that scene for more than the music, so it sticks out the most for me. "Anakin's Betryal" -- it was the best original piece in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Congratulations for Johnny! Way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Does this mean RotS has a chance at an Oscar nom?I hope sop because it's the best Williams score this year so far.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 ROTS is a great score but do you think it would have a chance to win an Oscar? It is rare that voters favor this type of score (well LOTR won 2 Oscars for best score).I really hope ROTS would be nominated and would win the Oscar. Williams surtely deserves it for his long work on SW movies and of course because ROTS is a great score. If not ROTS there is Memoirs or Munich or WotW. The strongest contenders in my mind are Munich and Memoirs because of their subject matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I'm sure this won't be the last time I have to alert people to this, but this is from the Academy's rule book concerning the Best Original Score category. It directly affects "ROTS":This expressly excludes from eligibility all of the following:(d) scores diluted by the use of themes tracked or other pre-existing musicSo I'd stop getting your hopes up, and put your excitement behind the three other scores John Williams has composed for the year 2005.Jeff -- who wouldn't vote for ROTS even if it were eligible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Anakin's Betrayal all the way!Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Wow, great news! ~Tyler, who still needs to get WOTW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Great Anakin's Betrayal should definively win a Grammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 One 'For Your Consideration' Ad for ROTS has the Score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Still makes you think of the Grammy people have more music for the ROTS score than we regular people do...if that is the case too bad that couldn't be leaked like the 2-disc set for A.I. did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 They don't. It's only based on what's on the legitimate CD releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 And what's on cd is more that worthy of a Grammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Am I the only one that feels Clint Eastwood is grossly out of his element in this category?Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 At last Williams' new (strong) orchestration style gets recognition.s-hands, who wishes The Ferry won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMan 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I am proud to hear this news! Both Anakin's Betrayal and the Ferry Scene are the best track pieces on those CDs easily. I was hoping that Anakins Betrayal would be a concert piece like BOTH, who knows maybe some day! Ferry Scene I have finally figured out. 3/4,3/4. 3/4, 7/8,5/8, 7/8,5/8.....etc. With a lot of great brass timpani hits, and also I would like to call the string melodies in Epilogue, Reverse lyricism. Make sense to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Was GoF elligible for the grammys?K.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 No, it came too late. It'll be eligable next year, though.I didn't think there was enough previous material in ROTS to exclude it. Added to that, I fid the original, standalone cues far more impressive that the thematic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAsterisk 0 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Gratz, JTW!~Mr. Asterisk, who has just returned from doing the P.A. announcements (intros and fouls) at a high school basketball game, and has learned (A) it's harder than it looks and (B) the referees really need to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 So I'd stop getting your hopes up, and put your excitement behind the three other scores John Williams has composed for the year 2005. Anakin's Betrayal doesn't contain any previous themes. It's completely original. Or do you mean it can't be from a sequel score at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 He's talking about Academy Awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I've never understood the fixation on "Anakin's Betrayal". It's good but was never one of the tracks from ROTS that really grabbed me. I consider "Anakin's Dark Deeds", "Enter Lord Vader", "The Immolation Scene" and "Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious" as much superior tracks in comparison and pure bliss to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I think Anakin's Betrayal is one of the most beautiful tracks on the OST. It is both highly epic and emotional. I had hoped Williams would write something as dramatic for the ROTS and he delivered beyond my expectations. A very fitting choice IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I think Anakin's Betrayal is one of the most beautiful tracks on the OST. It is both highly epic and emotional. I had hoped Williams would write something as dramatic for the ROTS and he delivered beyond my expectations. A very fitting choice IMO.Hmm, if you say so. I'll have to listen to it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well if youthink it is not great then you do not have to change your opinion. For me that track was fantastic from the first listen. Though some music hits you on the first listen and some after 100 listenings. And sometimes the music will not impress at all no matter how many times you listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It's defintely something that gets better the more you listen. For me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Well if youthink it is not great then you do not have to change your opinion. For me that track was fantastic from the first listen. Though some music hits you on the first listen and some after 100 listenings. And sometimes the music will not impress at all no matter how many times you listen.It's not a matter of changing my opinion. Other Williams fans are hearing something in it that I don't, it seems. Won't hurt giving it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It's defintely something that gets better the more you listen. For me, anyway.That is true with most of Williams music. The more I listen the better it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It gave goosebumps on the cinema with the visuals.the most emotional scenes in the saga since Dark side Beckons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,519 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It gave goosebumps on the cinema with the visuals.the most emotional scenes in the saga since Dark side Beckons.Indeed. A rare SW film goosebump moment for me too. That music made the visuals much more emotional than they could have been on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 At last Williams' new (strong) orchestration style gets recognition.New, he's been rehashing his orchestration since the mid to late 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 And expanding on it. Instead of rehashing and expanding on standard big orchestra orchestrations in his 70s/80s blockbuster scores.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Then why do I hear The Lost World in so many of Williams post 97 scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 You look very, very, hard for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It's their for all to hear in HP: PS, MR and AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I hear it in those scores too. But that's 3 scores, and I haven't heard anything like TLW in any of his last 6 scores, and I doubt it will pop-up in Munich. I think that JW has been for a very long time and is still the best orchestrator among film composers (Shore is making him work for that title, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 WOTW has it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I think that is purely coincidental, as in many instances he threw everything and the kitchen sink into WoTW. Morlock- who, either way, doesn't put too much stock into the WoTW score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Its his new trademark track.Its not throughout the score it usually is just one track, or even small segment as in AOTC and ROTS.He didnt re-use Ludlowds demise it until 2001 with, HP SS in the quiditch match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAsterisk 0 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I've never understood the fixation on "Anakin's Betrayal". Â It's good but was never one of the tracks from ROTS that really grabbed me. Â I consider "Anakin's Dark Deeds", "Enter Lord Vader", "The Immolation Scene" and "Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious" as much superior tracks in comparison and pure bliss to listen to.Seconded wholeheartedly. "Anakin's Betrayal" is much worse than "Anakin's Dark Deeds" and "Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious," just to name two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Its not throughout the score it usually is just one track, or even small segment as in AOTC and ROTS.Are you kidding?Coruscant Chase is pretty much TLW action music sans the bongo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I never read the relation here before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an_mjb_film 0 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Best Score Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media (Award to Composer(s) for an original score created specifically for, or as a companion to, a current legitimate motion picture, television show or series or other visual media.)The AviatorHoward Shore, composer[Decca] The IncrediblesMichael Giacchino, composer[Walt Disney Records] Million Dollar BabyClint Eastwood, composer[Varèse Sarabande Records] RayCraig Armstrong, composer[Atlantic/Rhino/WMG Soundtracks] Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The SithJohn Williams, composer[sony Classical /Sony Music Soundtrax] and..............Best Instrumental Composition (A Composer's Award for an original composition (not an adaptation) first released during the Eligibility Year. Singles or Tracks only.)Anakin's BetrayalJohn Williams, composer (John Williams & The London Symphony Orchestra andLondon Voices)Track from: Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - Soundtrack[sony Classical /Sony Music Soundtrax] The Ferry SceneJohn Williams, composer (John Williams)Track from: War Of The Worlds - Soundtrack[Decca] The IncreditsMichael Giacchino, composer (Various Artists)Track from: The Incredibles - Soundtrack[Walt Disney Records] Into The LightBilly Childs, composer (Billy Childs Ensemble)Track from: Lyric[Lunacy Music/Artistshare] GOOD LUCK JOHNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 .....but welcome...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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