The OFFICIAL "Casino Royale" (2006) Thread

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I just came back from seeing this.

What a enhilarating, tense, gritty, stupendous, heartwarming, heartbrealing and wonderfull experience.

Graig is the closest thing to Fleming's Bond since the very earliest Connery days.

I've always like Brosnan in all his 4 films, but I did not think of him, or any of the others when watching Daniel Craig

The actionscenes were humongous and utterly unbelievable, but so well scripted, filmed and edited that they totally pull you in.

This is what I want, nay demand from a film like this, to utterly surpress any second thoughts I have about a scenes plausibility. (The DaVinci Code failed miserably last week)

Mads Mikkelsen makes a imposing a creepy villian (the bleeding eye was a brilliant idea). He has a way of staring at you that just makes you nervous.

After TWINE this film continues with blessing this franchise with Bond girls who are more then just a pretty face and nice tits for Bond to oogle at.

Vesper Lynd joins Tracy, Tatiana Romanova and Elektra King on the short list of Bond girls who are actually real people.

Arnolds score worked great in the film and I enjoyed it inmensly on the way home. The Title Song is good, though It's something I need to get used too.

Good supporting cast, and a good thing they didn't replace Judy Dench. Also a good thing we didn't see John Cleese (I love him, but in this film....no)

There were plenty of elements from the earlier films, (2 Aston Martins for goodness sake) but they were paid lip service, instead of us being pelted with them, like in DAD.

Is this the first Bond film were the Martini is actually part of the plot?

This is one of the best James Bond films, it's not The Spy Who Loved Me good, it's From Russia With Love good!

The Secret organisation they were hinting at, I hope it's SPECTRE (Are the rights to Thunderball still in Limbo?)

Sometimes going to watch a film can be such a joyous experience!

**** out of ****

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I was going to see it a second time to day, but I unfortunately had to cancel my plans. I'll try to see it again this weekend.

I'm not sure about the SPECTRE rights. In the book Le Chifre was an agent of SMERSH, but seeing how the Cold War is over, I doubt that'll make it into the next one...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

It would not be the first time they replaced SMERSH with Spectre in the films.

But it would very much depend on who owns the rights to the Fleming/McGlory manuscript that became Thunderball.

After Never Say Never Again McGlory tried to get another bond film started with Sony Pictures, who now own the REAL Bond Franchise, so who knows.

The only small gripe I have so far about Casino Royale is that Eve Green's french accent occasionally spilled through (most notably when they met in the train).

[crocodile 8,012]

Vesper Lynd joins Tracy, Tatiana Romanova and Elektra King on the short list of Bond girls who are actually real people.

The Vesper character was one of the strongest elements of this film. Her scenes with Craig are very good. That made the twist at the end actually surprising, even if it should be predictable.

Elektra King? Wasn't that the chick from The World Is Not Enough? If so, then she was pretty wooden, acting-wise I mean.

Karol, who has seen CR again and liked it a lot more than the first time overall.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Elektra King? Wasn't that the chick from The World Is Not Enough? If so, then she was pretty wooden, acting-wise I mean.

There were 2 chicks in TWINE, one was Denise Richards, who was wooden and generic, one was Sophie Marceau, who gave a wonderfull performance as not only a Bond girl, but the first female main villian in Bond Film history. (Robert Carlyle's character was that films Odd Job)

[crocodile 8,012]

I agree on the character, but personally I found the performance lacking.

Karol, not a Marceau's fan.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Lacking what?

I thought she was superb.

[crocodile 8,012]

There is something strange in a way she delivers lines. They all sound the same. Maybe it was supposed to look sensual and/or mirror femme fatale characters from the old era, but, even with this in mind, I just didn't bought her. It's the matter of taste, eventually.

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Well let us agree to disagree.

[Romão 2,274]

She does stand out a lot next to a rocket scientist played by a Lara Croft lookalike Denise Richards, which has the remarkable name of Christmas Jones.

[crocodile 8,012]

That's true.

Karol

[Morlock 11]

This is what I want, nay demand from a film like this, to utterly surpress any second thoughts I have about a scenes plausibility. (The DaVinci Code failed miserably last week)

Indeed!

After TWINE this film continues with blessing this franchise with Bond girls who are more then just a pretty face and nice tits for Bond to oogle at.

Vesper Lynd joins Tracy, Tatiana Romanova and Elektra King on the short list of Bond girls who are actually real people.

What about Pussy Galore? Maybe not real, but certainly a welcome presence.

Arnolds score worked great in the film and I enjoyed it inmensly on the way home. The Title Song is good, though It's something I need to get used too.

I got used to it by now...it's become one of my favorite Bond songs. It's so refreshing to have a song that actually is one with the score.

Good supporting cast, and a good thing they didn't replace Judy Dench. Also a good thing we didn't see John Cleese (I love him, but in this film....no)

Yes, yes and yes.

There were plenty of elements from the earlier films, (2 Aston Martins for goodness sake) but they were paid lip service, instead of us being pelted with them, like in DAD.  

Indeed. I did love the way he got his first Aston Martin...in a by the way kind of way, James Bond gets one of his trademarks. And the theme, hinted at...loved it.

Is this the first Bond film were the Martini is actually part of the plot?

In TWINE, something in the drink he picks up makes him realize King is gonna die. I never quite understood what he saw there, but it's something.

This is one of the best James Bond films, it's not The Spy Who Loved Me good, it's From Russia With Love good!

Indeed (though I do not believe TSWLM is particularly good).

The Secret organisation they were hinting at, I hope it's SPECTRE (Are the rights to Thunderball still in Limbo?)

I thought so, but by killing off Mr. White, they kinda cut the direct connection to the organization.

**** out of ****

It loses 1/2 a star from be because of the pacing issues during the third act, and the final action scene, which was a bit of a let-down.

[SturgisPodmore 0]

What a enhilarating, tense, gritty, stupendous, heartwarming, heartbrealing and wonderful experience.

Sometimes going to watch a film can be such a joyous experience!

**** out of ****

Well let us agree to disagree.

Steef? Saying these things?

Does . . . not . . . compute! . . .

I thought so, but by killing off Mr. White, they kinda cut the direct connection to the organization.

I don't think Bond killed him.

And I never got that thing in TWINE with the drink either.

~Sturgis

[crocodile 8,012]

Steef? Saying these things?  

Does . . . not . . . compute! . . .  

Something strange is going on... Is it christmas influence?

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

What about Pussy Galore? Maybe not real' date=' but certainly a welcome presence.[/quote']

She's not even in the film much. I like her though

**** out of ****

It loses 1/2 a star from be because of the pacing issues during the third act' date=' and the final action scene, which was a bit of a let-down.[/quote']

Well I for one read the book, so I knew and expected the pace to change for the third act.

I actually liked the final action scene in the house, and the way Vesper dies (she DOES commit suicide)

[Morlock 11]

I didn't quite buy her suicide...I don't know, I didn't feel like we arrived at that point with her character. That whole wrap-up invloving her, the money, and Venice felt very rushed and not entirely clear, while the rest of the movie was just a pure delight, and you and the film were on the same page. I just didn't feel on safe ground during the last third.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

In the pre-credits sequence of TWINE, Bond can be seen handling King's money. In M's office, he then puts several ice cubes in his drink. The material the money was treated with to make it explode reacts with the water from the ice cubes. That's how Bond realizes the money's been tampered with. I don't think he was drinking a martini at the time, though.

[Morlock 11]

That's what I thought it was..... So it was every bit as stupid as I thought it was! I'm not dumb! for six years I thought I was missing something! YAY!

Morlock- who, for the recod thinks it's very, very, very silly that Bond deduced that the money was laced with some explosive trigger because there was a bit of foam from his ice-cube

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

He also smells the reaction in his drink.

[Morlock 11]

I'm sorry, it still strikes me as.....silly.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I see your point.

[Vaderbait1 1]

Why is it silly? Wouldn't you get suspicious if you smelled and saw it when you drank something? How else was he supposed to find out?

[Morlock 11]

Oh, it is incredibly silly in the film. He smells something, sees a bit of foam....and runs off to warn the guy as if he's 100% an explosion is imminent. That is terribley silly, even for a mediocre Bond film. (Sorry Stefan, IMO there is only one decent Brosnan Bond film, and it is Tommorow Never Dies. I'm not a big fan of Marceu's character either.)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

(Sorry Stefan, IMO there is only one decent Brosnan Bond film, and it is Tommorow Never Dies. I'm not a big fan of Marceu's character either.)

That's because you lack imagination.

I'l try not to hold it against you.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

Oh, it is incredibly silly in the film. He smells something, sees a bit of foam....and runs off to warn the guy as if he's 100% an explosion is imminent. That is terribley silly, even for a mediocre Bond film. (Sorry Stefan, IMO there is only one decent Brosnan Bond film, and it is Tommorow Never Dies. I'm not a big fan of Marceu's character either.)

If that is 'incredibly silly', then just about the whole Bond series would be unwatchable no? Remember Connery's super calculation skills in Goldfinger?

[fommes 153]

Does anybody have the German single of You Know My Name? (Please PM me ).

It appears that it contains two versions; the main and the pop version (whatever the pop version is).

[ChrisAfonso 186]

The Main Version is the rock version.

The "Pop Mix" is the version as heard in the music video. Sadly not exactly the film version (I'm missing the prominent horns in the opening bars), but good nonetheless... I don't have the film version clearly in my ear anymore (has been a few days), but judging from the bad audio of the youtube film opening clips, the pop mix is partly even more band-less than the film mix.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

The film features two versions of the song, I believe. The one heard in the end credits has more prominent horns in the opening.

[Morlock 11]

(Sorry Stefan, IMO there is only one decent Brosnan Bond film, and it is Tommorow Never Dies. I'm not a big fan of Marceu's character either.)

That's because you lack imagination.

I'l try not to hold it against you.

Mind explaining what you mean?

[gkgyver 1,645]

I had really hoped to find the film version on the single. Oh well, what do I have a MD recorder for?

I think I have to see the film one more time ...

[ChrisAfonso 186]

*nudge nudge*

I'll have to, too, but I don't have fitting recording gear...

[gkgyver 1,645]

Actually, ahem, I already *could* record the film version right now from some ... source ....

But let me see first if I can't do better with my own precious tool.

By the way, has anyone tried yet to edit down the CR soundtrack for their own listening pleasure? I did that in the last few days, and it came out pretty neat. Current track list is:

1. Bond Is Back/ African Rundown 6:23

2. You Know My Name Pop Mix 4:02

3. The Ocean Club 2:06

4. Ellipsis 2:13

5. Solange 2:05

6. Solange alternate 1:54

7. Miami International 12:??

8. Bond To Montenegro 2:00

9. Casino Royale 2:35

10. Vesper 1:44

11. Bond Wins It All ?:??

12. The Bad Die Young 1:53

13. The Bad Die Young alternate 2:28

...

??. The Name's Bond, James Bond ?:??

I know the firstt wo aren't in film order, but I love my traditional 007 opening, so I took the first 30 seconds of The Name's Bond, James Bond and edited them to fit an imaginary Gunbarrel sequence. To make the piece flow smoothly, I deleted the first 30 seconds of African Rundown, which starts now with the first brass statement of You Know My Name.

The Bad Die Young is basically The End Of An Aston Martin with 25 seconds of Stairwell Fight sandwiched in. The alternate version also has 25 second of the torture scene at the end, which is a great, dark closer.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I always get the most listening pleasure out of hearing the entire score in film order. No editing required on that one...

[robthehand 3]

I find the score very boring, so the shorter the album the better, in my case.

But in most cases I'd agree with Marc on this subject.

[fommes 153]

For the one time that we finally get the complete score! from the get-go! there are people who keep emphasising that they wanted it edited down.

I mean, you can give that criticism no problem at all, I see your points, but do you want this to be a one-time event or what?

Personally, I am very very happy that we have the complete score, so thank you David Arnold, Sony, iTunes etc. Keep doing this, thank you!

[robthehand 3]

Of course, the idea of getting a complete score straight off is brilliant, but for this rather-poor score I'm not interested.

[gkgyver 1,645]

Of course it is GREAT to get ALL the music from the *get go*, but that doesn't automatically mean it's listenable. There just are scores for which a shorter album makes more sense, and CR is one of them. TND greatly improved with the expanded release, and so did DAD (although it's a bootleg).

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I love the complete score. I just wish we had gotten some higher quality from iTunes. I can definitely tell I'm switching to a lower bitrate when I go from Fall of a House in Venice to Running to the Elevator.

[gkgyver 1,645]

I got the film version of YKMN today, by the way. Quality isn't brilliant, of course, but it gets the job done.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

Personally, I am very very happy that we have the complete score, so thank you David Arnold, Sony, iTunes etc. Keep doing this, thank you!

I am thrilled that it was done, too. I've been saying for a while that iTunes would be a great way to get complete score out there for sale. I think the bonus tracks still should have been for sale as a separate package for a few bucks, but hey, this is a start.

[Genius_Gone_Insane 5]

I caught CR on DVD last night. This was my second viewing. I must admit, that is a great score! It really played a huge role in why I enjoyed it so much both the first and second times I saw it! Even the Cornell title song!

[Lurker 5]

I love the complete score.

It's not quite complete. Three inserts are missing from "African Rundown" that can be heard in the film.

The first one can be heard about 12:52-12:55 into the film (R1) beginning around this shot:

The second is heard between 15:35 and 15:41 starting around here:

The final one is heard as the alarm is sounded from 17:12 to 17:17.

So we're missing a good 11 seconds or so, at least.

Neil

[robthehand 3]

I think there's also a little bit missing, when Bond shoots Dryden and then the final scene in the bathroom. Just a long string note, IIRC.

[Red 75]

Oh no! 11 seconds!

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Dammit!

Also, IIRC, the alternate ending to Blunt Instrument and the film version of You Know My Name remain unreleased.

3 days until the Dutch DVD...

[robthehand 3]

Well, you can get YKMN film version from the DVD, SFX-free. The end credits have the clean opening and ending, and with a bit of editing you can tag those on to the credits version, and it works fine.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I'd have to get an NTSC copy for that, though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I'll be ripping it this weekend I think. and I have an NTSC DVD.

So save yourself the trouble of buying an R1 DVD just for that....

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Huzzah!

[robthehand 3]

Why not buy the Region 3 NTSC DVD? It's completely uncut, runs at the correct speed, has burned-in subtitles, and has DTS sound that is not on either the Region 1 or Region 2 releases. Also, it's only £8.99, probably cheaper than the Dutch DVD will cost. That's where I got mine.