Jerry Goldsmith's The Edge (La-La Land Complete)

[Jay 46,244]

I got mine today, but haven't listened yet.

Anybody else's arrive yet?

[Demondm810 473]

Negative. I thought mine would since it shipped Wednesday.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

SAE order still pending. I wonder what's holding it up. If they don't ship it soon, Spartacus will be out before I get this.

[Richard P 5,303]

Mine shipped an hour after ordering (1pm ish on Tuesday, pacific time) so I'm hoping it will arrive on Monday or early next week.

Was hoping to get a temporary fix before receiving it but Goldsmith fans appear to be much more ethical than Mancina fans so far

[Quintus 6,496]

I LOVE this score and own the original ost, but was there enough extra goodness in the score to warrant this purchase? I know the score well, and I'm comfortably served by the old ost.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I just sold the OST for $30 on Amazon. Someone should have done their research.

[Richard P 5,303]

Meh, I've never really agreed with selling things far in excess of their cost, just due to rarity. Those trying to sell used copies for $150 are selfish IMO.

Not really sure whether to sell mine or not.

[A24 5,156]

I just sold the OST for $30 on Amazon. Someone should have done their research.

So that's how you get your wealth!

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Meh, I've never really agreed with selling things far in excess of their cost, just due to rarity. Those trying to sell used copies for $150 are selfish IMO.

Not really sure whether to sell mine or not.

I agree. Whenever I miss an LE I wonder if there's some guy who bought ten copies to hawk on Ebay at a 300% markup when it sells out.

[Richard P 5,303]

I have no doubt that there are for every major release. I've seen some put up listings at big markups before it's even released.

Honestly, I think the LEs should have a two per customer limit (to allow for those who might buy a copy for a friend)

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Meh, I've never really agreed with selling things far in excess of their cost, just due to rarity. Those trying to sell used copies for $150 are selfish IMO.

Not really sure whether to sell mine or not.

I thought mine was a fair price. I mean, I did want to make back the $35 I spent on it in the first place. $25 + shipping, which was the lowest price being sold on Amazon. The second lowest was $60.

[Richard P 5,303]

I've managed to find a preview, and this is a nearly perfect set.

And this is my chance to be uber-geeky about a LE release - a few differences between the film and the CD as follows:

1. Early Arrival (1:32)*

2. Lost In The Wild(s) (2:59)

3. A Lucky Man/Open Door (1:41)* - same as film except the final orchestral smash (3-4 seconds) is missing. Probably wouldn't sound great anyway.

4. Mighty Hunter (1:31)

5. The Spirit (0:36)*

6. Birds (2:22)

7. The Fire / Breakfast (2:31)*

8. Rich Man (0:58)*

9. The Ravine (4:36)

10. Bitter Coffee (3:01)

11. Wound (1:38)*

12 . Stephen's Death (2:26)* - the CD adds an unused 30 seconds or so at the end, reprising the brass motif. May be a pickup they decided to include, as the film ending is clean.

13. The Cage / False Hope / No Matches (3:34)* - crossfade at 2:00 isn't in the film - the bits are separated by dialogue. Not an editing decision I'd have made.

14. Stalking (5:46)

15. Deadfall / Bear Fight (6:21)

16. The Discovery / Trust Your Back (5:01)* - 1:34-1:40 is an alternate, and in minor key instead, and 1:40-1:46 only has brass, not a woodwind overlay too as in the film.

17. The River (2:26)

18. Rescued (6:03)

19. End Title (Lost In The Wild)(s) (1:59)*

20. The Edge (2:55)

Bonus Tracks

21. False Hope (Alternate Take) (1:08)* - an alternate of the run through the trees from the start of the percussion to the crossfade in track 13. A slightly 'native' feel to the percussion and has a brass motif.

22. Rescued (Film Version Ending) (1:19)* - A revised ending which doesn't have a brass part that track 18 has, right before the final string rendition of the theme.

23. The Edge (Alternate Take) (3:00)* - Exactly what it says on the tin. Just a different jazz arrangement.

I won't be keeping the bonus tracks - #21 is radically different from the film and I'm glad Goldsmith rescored it, and #22 is just sort of 'there'.

Nice job again LLL http://jwfan.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

[Jay 46,244]

Nice job Rich.

I look forward to checking this out. Just added the blu ray of the film to my netflix queue as well

[Ollie 1,375]

I gave my copy of the original away. However I see nothing wrong with selling an original copy you bought to listen to yourself and then unloading it when an expanded version is released. If you can get some cash, go for it.

Hopefully mine should arrive today.

[Wojo 2,458]

I have yet to even order mine.

[Incanus 5,890]

My copy arrived today. :cool: Very fast delivery from SAE, exactly a week, to Europe no less.

I found the first listen extremely satisfying, basically there is more of everything on this set: main theme, action and suspence in delightful new variations. The liner notes are nice and offer a good track-by-track analysis to those of us who do not remember the music by heart. One of my favourite Goldsmith scores and this set only further solidified that opinion.

Great job LLL!

[Jay 46,244]

Less than 400 copies remain in stock at La-La Land Records

[Uni 307]

I ordered mine back when this thread started. I just got it today.

I really think they oughta refund my shipping cost.

- Uni

[Wojo 2,458]

If I could take only one Goldsmith with me to the proverbial desert island, it would be this score.

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

I ordered mine back when this thread started. I just got it today.

I really think they oughta refund my shipping cost.

- Uni

3/4 years?

[Uni 307]

Oh, it was a hell of a lot longer than nine months, believe me. . . .

- Uni

[Red 75]

Imma have to pick up one of these. The Edge is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores that I've heard.

[crocodile 9,724]

Oh I ordered this one as well. Another thing I've been thinking about for some time now.

Karol

[Jay 46,244]

Low stock alert: Less then 200 units of Jerry Goldsmith's THE EDGE remain!

https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10151749492848755

[Jay 46,244]

LOW STOCK ALERT!

Less than 150 units of Jerry Goldsmith’s THE EDGE remain!

From new release email.

[Jay 46,244]

QUICK UPDATE

We have 20 copies left of Jerry Goldsmith's spectacular score to THE EDGE

http://www.lalalandrecords.com/TheEdge.html

https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10151817826978755

[OneBuckFilms 517]

I cannot stress this enough. This is a score to get if you don't have it.

[Wojo 2,458]

It's gorgeous. If you only have one Goldsmith in your collection, it should be this one.

[crocodile 9,724]

I wouldn't go that far.

But yeah, it is a cool score.

Karol

[Jay 46,244]

I'd personally pick Alien as the one Goldsmith CD you must have in your collection, but I'm weird

[OneBuckFilms 517]

Your not weird. Star Trek TMP is in the same category for me. Both from 1979, interestingly enough.

Right when Goldsmith transitioned from experimental to more lyrical/romantic, and we get the best of both with these scores.

[Jay 46,244]

Yes, those two scores are absolutely amazing, and it's even more impressive they were composed back to back. So different from each other!

EDIT: Woops they weren't back to back, he wrote The Players in between

[crocodile 9,724]

Alien is great. I loved hearing an extended suite from it last year. It made quite an impression.

Karol

[Wojo 2,458]

I happen to own all four, so it's not like I'm missing out.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

It's gorgeous. If you only have one Goldsmith in your collection, it should be this one.

I can easily name a dozen (or two) I'd rather have, but it's still a damn fine score.

Yes, those two scores are absolutely amazing, and it's even more impressive they were composed back to back. So different from each other!

EDIT: Woops they weren't back to back, he wrote The Players in between

Which is even more different. The early cues for STTMP actually seem to have a stronger similarity to Alien.

[Red 75]

QUICK UPDATE

We have 20 copies left of Jerry Goldsmith's spectacular score to THE EDGE

http://www.lalalandrecords.com/TheEdge.html

https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10151817826978755

According to the link it's sold out. Which means I didn't get one.

[Jay 46,244]

Still available at:

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/14116/THE-EDGE-EXPANDED/

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M07528/edge-complete/

http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/edcoorsobyje.html

[Andy 7,730]

Is there a chance, legally speaking, that this could get a rerelease like Sum of All Fears?  Or is there rights ownership that would prevent that?  Nothing presumably wrong or missing on this release also?

[Jay 46,244]

Well, its a 20th Century Fox owned film, and there haven't been any non-Varese Fox expansions since 2022.

 

https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/35148-film-score-releases-licensed-from-film-studios-a-list/

 

Since Fox is owned by Disney now, future expansions (or reissues of older expansion) might only be possible to come from Intrada.  We don't know yet.

[Yavar Moradi 4,400]

It's probably in a bit of limbo since it's a Fox (now owned by Disney) title. LLL hasn't done a Fox release since 2022. On the other hand last year Varese did their first Fox title (The Other: The Deluxe Edition) since the Disney purchase, and their first Fox expansion in 8 years. So maybe there's hope? I just think things are moving much slower so reissues of scores that were already complete probably aren't the highest priority, even a Goldsmith.

 

I think the biggest thing wrong with LLL's expansion of The Edge was the cover art. I know of no issues with the actual music.

 

Yavar

[Richard P 5,303]

Yeah, I was never a fan of that cover art - what I use is some sort of cleaned up version of the OST's awesome cover I found somewhere.

 

The only musical issue is a really (really) small one: a missing stinger at the end of Open Door. It's a great-sounding, comprehensive release.

 

If Disney-owned Goldsmith were in any sort of priority order, I'd put The 13th Warrior waaaay above this, due to there actually being additional material to release.

[Yavar Moradi 4,400]

Agreed, and I’d put Mulan above 13th Warrior because there’s a whole lot more commercially unreleased music from that, and I’d put Medicine Man above all of them because it’s a great score with a quarter hour of music missing that’s never come out in any way, commercially or not…

 

Hell, for that matter, I'd even put an expansion of Angie ahead of Mulan or 13th Warrior because I've honestly got very good-sounding complete versions of those two, despite not being commercial releases. (It's far behind Medicine Man still of course.)

 

Yavar

[Andy 7,730]

Thank you. The reason I ask is I just bought it and before I take the shrink wrap off, I wanted to see if what happened with the Sum of All Fears wasn’t imminent. 

[Yavar Moradi 4,400]

3 minutes ago, Andy said:

Thank you. The reason I ask is I just bought it and before I take the shrink wrap off, I wanted to see if what happened with the Sum of All Fears wasn’t imminent. 

 

Very unlikely. Sum of All Fears was a more imperfect initial expansion (a lot of people complained about the combined/crossfaded cues on it, at the time, and missing choir versions of cues from the original album). And the film is owned by Paramount, which is currently the most friendly and prompt studio when it comes to licensing to the film music specialty labels.

 

So if you're looking at other albums you might want to remove shrinkwrap on, you probably have little to worry about when it comes to Warner Bros. (unless maybe it's a Varese title) or most Disney-owned (including Fox) things.

Yavar

[1977 2,134]

On a somewhat related note, I took a few months to open my sealed copy of Jaws 3-D from Intrada, and when I did, I discovered to my horror that disc 2 was missing. Fortunately they sorted it out, but since then I'm hesitant to wait too long before opening something sealed. Which reminds me, I still have a bunch of Intrada and LLL releases that I haven't opened...

[Jill Sandwich 11,166]

I remember hearing a bad distortion in one track on the OST, which also appeared in the same music in the same spot and sounded identical in the LLL. The latter is a louder overall master though. Seems it must have been present way up the generational chain. Don't ask me for timestamps now, I don't have them handy.

[Richard P 5,303]

That might be Rescued, iirc - haven't listened in a while.

 

There are crossfades on this one that I wouldn't have put there, but I'd never seen that as a reason to do a new master, in general. Some producers seemed to do it a fair amount some years back.

[bruce marshall 1,988]

What do fans freak- out over crossfaded and combined cues?

I.

Don't.

Understand.

[Yavar Moradi 4,400]

I suspect this has been explained to you before, but:

1) crossfaded cues often don’t have clean beginnings or endings, and sometimes even combine cues from different parts of the picture

2) if you like one of the cues and want to include it in your own playlist of the score (but not the other) you then can’t do so in a way that isn’t awkward/clunky (Hell, it’s even a pain to split two cues that are combined in one track without a crossfade.)

 

I only want The Flag Parade in my playlist, without having to always listen to The Arrival at Tatooine before it! Make sense?

 

Yavar

[Richard P 5,303]

It's sometimes as simple as two cues that are separated in the film, joined together in a way that's not overly musical, or doesn't let the emotion of the former cue properly end.

 

And I just prefer clean openings and endings in general.