Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 So I recently went through my CD shelf and compared my Williams collection to the list of all the films he's scored. It turns out there are only 14 films he has scored (that have had their score put onto CD) that I do not own the CD for: 1972 The Cowboys1973 The Paper Chase1974 The Towering Inferno1974 Earthquake1974 Conrack1975 The Eiger Sanction1978 Jaws 21979 Dracula1989 Always1990 Stanley & Iris1990 Presumed Innocent1991 JFK1996 Sleepers1997 Amistad Which of these titles, JWFan community, are the most important for me to add to my collection? Sadly, the eight 1970s titles are far too expensive on the secondary market now to justify the purchase (especially when I am hopeful they will get re-issued soon). 1972 The Cowboys ~$30 on Amazon1973 The Paper Chase / 1974 Conrack ~$68 on Amazon (for the FSM Poseidon / Paper Chase / Conrack CD)1974 The Towering Inferno ~$400 on Amazon for the FSM release1974 Earthquake ~$41 on Amazon1975 The Eiger Sanction - none currently on Amazon at all!1978 Jaws 2 ~$90 on Amazon1979 Dracula ~$58 on Amazon But the six 80s-90s titles I really should just buy right now, right? 1989 Always ~$1 on Amazon1990 Stanley & Iris ~$13 on Amazon1990 Presumed Innocent ~$13 on Amazon1991 JFK ~$2 on Amazon1996 Sleepers ~$1 on Amazon1997 Amistad ~$14 on Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 All of them!But of the affordable titles you list, STANLEY & IRIS is probably my personal favourite, followed by AMISTAD and SLEEPERS (90s Williams is my favourite Williams).Of the non-affordable titles -- THE EIGER SANCTION, followed by JAWS 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Start with this digital download :1974 The Towering Inferno (Reissued for digital download in 2014, Rhino)Then:1990 Presumed Innocent ~13 on Amazon1991 JFK ~$2 on Amazon1996 Sleepers ~$1 on Amazon1997 Amistad ~~14 on Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I don't do digital downloads. Physical CDs or no sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 JFK is an absolute must-have.I would get all the 90s albums as soon as possible, while they're still affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 But the six 80s-90s titles I really should just buy right now, right? 1989 Always ~$1 on Amazon1990 Stanley & Iris ~$13 on Amazon1990 Presumed Innocent ~$13 on Amazon1991 JFK ~$2 on Amazon1996 Sleepers ~$1 on Amazon1997 Amistad ~$14 on AmazonThis is clearly a yes. The ones you have affordable control over, and are still in print, buy them up. Now. They're cheap enough to just get even if you're not a completest.Of the older scores, unfortunately the one you must absolutely have is The Towering Inferno. Since that doesn't seem to be an option at this point then you'll simply need to wait until it's inevitably re-released on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 With The Towering Inferno being a FOX owned score, I figured a new release would have to be in the works, since they are so easy for any label to work with. But I don't know if Rhino's reissue of the original LP put a monkey wrench in that. I hope not!I've heard The Towering Inferno LP and FSM Expanded of course, I just don't own it on my shelf and really want to!For Paper Chase and Conrack, who knows if we'll ever get another re-issue of those? Hard to say! They are Fox so its easy, but they are short and not very well known so it might not be worth a specialty labels time!For Earthquake, Eiger, Jaws 2, and Dracula - COME ON VARESE!!!Speaking of Varese, they seem to have quietly let their Cowboys CD go OOP (along with Stanley and Iris and Presumed Innocent)... COME ON VARESE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 These two are really the two most important of the lot1972 The Cowboys1975 The Eiger SanctionAnd yes these 6 should be a priority with those prices!1989 Always ~$1 on Amazon1990 Stanley & Iris ~$13 on Amazon1990 Presumed Innocent ~$13 on Amazon1991 JFK ~$2 on Amazon1996 Sleepers ~$1 on Amazon1997 Amistad ~$14 on Amazon Sadly those other 70s scores of which I don't own three (Towering Inferno, Paper Chase and Conrack), are a bit on the pricey side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Of the ones I have from those (The Towering Inferno, Always, JFK, Sleepers, Amistad), the only must-own is Amistad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 before you make any purchase I think you should wait for June 1 to see what is the expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have Amistad. It has some fairly dull underscore, but the two main themes ("Dry Your Tears, Afrika" and Cinque's theme) are wonderful. Totally worth purchasing the album. And here's hoping Varese does indeed do some sort of re-release of The Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 before you make any purchase I think you should wait for June 1 to see what is the expansion.Well out of the six 1980s-1990s scores I don't have, MV already specifically said its not Stanley and Iris, Presumed Innocent, or JFK... so that leaves Always, Sleepers, or Amistad. All three available for cheap, and an expanded release of them might not have the OST presentation anyway! (The 1970s ones really are too damn expensive to buy now) And here's hoping Varese does indeed do some sort of re-release of The Cowboys!And Stanley and Iris and Presumed Innocent!! (And Air Force One, and Starship Troopers, and, and...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The Towering Inferno is a must-have. Maybe not worth the $400 price tag, but worth a digital download (just this once).Hard to believe, as avid a JW and film score collector as I know you are, that you don't yet have Presumed Innocent, Amistad, or JFK. Sleepers should probably be in there, too. Stanley and Iris isn't my favorite, mostly because it's a very even, almost flat-lined score, without much in the way of variation. Always is such a vague, insubstantial bit of fluff (like the film) that I wouldn't begrudge anyone skipping over it.I would definitely start with Presumed Innocent and JFK. I checked, and found you can't really call yourself a JW collector if you don't have those on your shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 As I said before: All Jay! Get all of the 90s scores! Get them while they're cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Alright I bit the bullet and bought the six 1980s-1990s Williams CDs I didn't have. Total with shipping came to ~$71 which is about $11.88 per CD. Not bad. And now I can say my JW discography is complete outside of eight mega-expensive, long OOP 1970s scores that I hope will be expanded or at least re-issued soon. Hooray! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 It only took four minutes after my recommendation, too. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Alright I bit the bullet and bought the six 1980s-1990s Williams CDs I didn't have.Well done! They're all nice. Interestingly, I used to really dislike ALWAYS (finding it the dullest of the dullest), but I've come to appreciate it in my older years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A true JWfan would try to get all these c.d.'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 A true JWfan would try to get all these c.d.'sI fully expect the 1970s scores will be re-issued (and hopefully expanded!) within the next couple years. No reason to pay $40-$400 for their outdated original CDs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 And now I can say my JW discography is complete outside of eight mega-expensive, long OOP 1970s scores that I hope will be expanded or at least re-issued soon. Hooray!The complete discography of JW contains 134 original studio albums, you surely don't have all of them. You talk about the Soundtracks only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Correct, I'm talking about his film scores that have been issued on CD only.I now have all but 8 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Correct, I'm talking about his film scores that have been issued on CD only.I now have all but 8 of them.really curious, could you list what JW films haven't you seen at least from 70s and on?You can use this here:http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24061&page=1Because I think it's more important to watch some films first, before buying soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have never seen: Daddy-OI Passed for WhiteBecause They're YoungThe Secret WaysStark FearBachelor FlatDiamond HeadGidget Goes to RomeThe KillersNone But The BraveJohn Goldfarb, Please Come HomeNot With My Wife You Don't!PenelopeThe PlainsmanA Guide for the Married ManFitzwillyDaddy's Gone A-Hunting The ReiversStory of a WomanThe CowboysThe Poseidon AdventurePete N TillieImagesThe Man Who Loved Cat DancingThe Paper ChaseThe Long GoodbyeCinderella LiberyConrackEarthquakeThe Towering InfernoThe Eiger SanctionFamily PlotThe Missouri BreaksMidway Black SundayJaws 2DraculaHeartbeepsMonsignorThe RiverWitches of EastwickAccidental TouristBorn on the Fourth of JulyAlwaysStanley & IrisPresumed InnocentFar and AwaySabrinaNixonSleepersRosewoodSeven Years in TibetAmistadStepmomAngela's Ashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 We're basically the same age, how the hell do you make it through the 80s and 90s and not catch Jaws 2 on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I've probably seen parts of it. Didn't really watch the Jaws movies growing up. I've probably only seen the original Jaws three, maybe four times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have never seen: Daddy-OI Passed for WhiteBecause They're YoungThe Secret WaysStark FearBachelor FlatDiamond HeadGidget Goes to RomeThe KillersNone But The BraveJohn Goldfarb, Please Come HomeNot With My Wife You Don't!PenelopeThe PlainsmanA Guide for the Married ManFitzwillyDaddy's Gone A-Hunting The ReiversStory of a WomanThe CowboysThe Poseidon AdventurePete N TillieImagesThe Man Who Loved Cat DancingThe Paper ChaseThe Long GoodbyeCinderella LiberyConrackEarthquakeThe Towering InfernoThe Eiger SanctionFamily PlotThe Missouri BreaksMidway Black SundayJaws 2DraculaHeartbeepsMonsignorThe RiverWitches of EastwickAccidental TouristBorn on the Fourth of JulyAlwaysStanley & IrisPresumed InnocentFar and AwaySabrinaNixonSleepersRosewoodSeven Years in TibetAmistadStepmomAngela's AshesOk, thanks.I'll still stick to what i was saying, that i think you should watch at least 20 films of these first, before purchasing those remaining Williams cds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Yeah. There are definitely a few essentials in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Out of all those films I've never seen, I MOST want to see: Family PlotThe Long GoodbyeThe Eiger SanctionBlack SundayDraculaThe Witches of EastwickBorn on the Fourth of JulyFar and Away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Black Sunday used to be on Netflix, but they took it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Add The Towering Inferno to that list, and all will be forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Eh, do I really need to see 70s disaster movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 It's the best of the lot, and one I still love. (McQueen and Newman make the movie.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Eh, do I really need to see 70s disaster movies?I find them waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................aaaaaaaaay better than today's action movies.At least Poseidon Adventure and Towering inferno (I don't remember Earthquake) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A true JWfan would try to get all these c.d.'sI fully expect the 1970s scores will be re-issued (and hopefully expanded!) within the next couple years. No reason to pay $40-$400 for their outdated original CDs now.More relevant is how many of these scores have you not heard at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have heard all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 If you are gonna watch a 70's disaster movie, then The Towering Inferno is the one to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I've been watching Amazon and eBay for so many years now trying to get Jaws 2 and The Towering Inferno at a good price, but to no avail... I think after the LLL title is announced, I'm gonna buy those two on vinyl so that I can at least have every score on some format. Both of those records can be had for around $10-$15 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I must have beaten you to Jaws 2 on Amazon.com. I snatched it up a few months ago for $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Always is the best one out of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Always is the worst post-1975 Williams score. Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Did you see the sunrise this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Always is the worst post-1975 Williams score. Sorry... I rather like the interpretation found on the Spielberg/Williams collaboration album. Moving and heartwarming in a quiet sort of way."Worst" is sort of an exaggeration, I think. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto Gizmo 2 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just bought Always on Amazon for 95 cents, lol. I've listened to snippets before, but not the whole album. I like what I've heard so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It's pretty forgettable and uneventful as a Williams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Here's sort of an "Always" Best Of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Always is the worst post-1975 Williams score. Sorry... I rather like the interpretation found on the Spielberg/Williams collaboration album. Moving and heartwarming in a quiet sort of way.I agree with both of you. The score as a whole is wandering, aimless, and without much substance (which made it perfect for the movie, which was all three of those x2). But the suite, as featured on the collaboration album, pulls the best elements out of the thin air and shapes it into a beautiful symphonic work—one of my favorites of his, ironically. It's really the only way I listen to that theme any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The score as a whole is wandering, aimless, and without much substance (which made it perfect for the movie, which was all three of those x2).Basically The Phantom Menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Always is the worst post-1975 Williams score. Sorry... Nope, that's SPACECAMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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